Biden Warns of a 'Nightmare' Future with Trump, Lists Reasons for Concern

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Those postal votes are rather suspicious

 

Right.

 

What makes postal votes suspicious? You don't know, because you don't know anything about how elections operate.

 

If you want, I can explain to you why it is impossible to use postal votes for large scale voter fraud (there is often individual absentee ballot fraud in elections).

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What happened on January 6 th ?

Did I miss something ?

Trolling again.

3 hours ago, Sluglord said:

Precisely, what occurred on January 6 that makes Trump a traitor?

He sent a mob to the Capitol and told them to "fight like hell".  He then went to the White House and spent three hours watching the Capitol rampage on television and ignoring all urgent requests to take action.  Only when it was clear that his mob would not accomplish anything beneficial did he send out a tweet praising them, repeating the stolen election lie, and telling them to go home.

 

This was the POTUS of the time, Commander in Chief of all the US Armed Forces.  In order to take office he had to take an oath:

 

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.  https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C8-1/ALDE_00001126/

 

If you don't see Trump's actions and inactions as those of a traitor, then you have much lower standards for POTUS than I do.

 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There were some protests because some people thought that there had been cheating in the election and they wanted to uphold the democratic process and keep elections fair and they protested against what they thought was cheating 

Right.  They then stormed the Capitol after being sent there by Trump.  Please do try to keep up.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Those postal votes are rather suspicious

In what way?  What audit shows suspicious results?  What court ruling has thrown the election in doubt in any way?

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The optimal solution is to stop illegal immigration, but to allow sufficient legal immigration to fill those jobs.

At last, a post that I can agree with 100%. Well done.

Now, how to stop illegal immigration, hmmmmmmm. Perhaps a big wall might do that, but .....................

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Sluglord said:

Precisely, what occurred on January 6 that makes Trump a traitor?

Don't expect a reply that makes sense.

[Skipalongcassidy]

Here comes the adjustment for bidenomics... Inflation driven Dow plunge is worst in 11 months

[Masterton]

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

He sent a mob to the Capitol and told them to "fight like hell".  He then went to the White House and spent three hours watching the Capitol rampage on television and ignoring all urgent requests to take action.  Only when it was clear that his mob would not accomplish anything beneficial did he send out a tweet praising them, repeating the stolen election lie, and telling them to go home.

 

This was the POTUS of the time, Commander in Chief of all the US Armed Forces. 

 

Right.  They then stormed the Capitol after being sent there by Trump.  Please do try to keep up.

In what way?  What audit shows suspicious results?  What court ruling has thrown the election in doubt in any way?

 

Don't you ever tire of simply repeating Democrat propaganda talking points? Trump did not "send a mob" to the Capitol. Stop talking nonsense. You also know damn well what he meant when he said "fight like hell", just like virtually every other politician has said in the past, including Democrats. Furthermore, the "rampage" at the Capitol started before Trump said that people "should march peacefully and patriotically to make their voices heard". The people who determined that the stolen election was "a lie" were the people on the side of those who "won" it. The people who stormed the Capitol did not do so "after being sent there by Trump". You are the one who needs to "keep up". With reality. Trump offered 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol and this offer was turned down by Pelosi. One can only wonder why. You ask "what audit" shows suspicious results? Perhaps you fail to recall that the Democrats opposed any audits be done (Not suspicious at all right?). A recount is NOT an audit, and logic would dictate that illegal ballots would still be counted in a recount, it is not rocket science...

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Masterton said:

Trump offered 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol and this offer was turned down by Pelosi. 

Your assertion is false and has been debunked here many times.

 

The problem with a long Gish Gallop post is that one lie buried in there can allow people to understand that the whole thing is a lie.

[candide]

6 hours ago, Masterton said:

 

Don't you ever tire of simply repeating Democrat propaganda talking points? Trump did not "send a mob" to the Capitol. Stop talking nonsense. You also know damn well what he meant when he said "fight like hell", just like virtually every other politician has said in the past, including Democrats. Furthermore, the "rampage" at the Capitol started before Trump said that people "should march peacefully and patriotically to make their voices heard". The people who determined that the stolen election was "a lie" were the people on the side of those who "won" it. The people who stormed the Capitol did not do so "after being sent there by Trump". You are the one who needs to "keep up". With reality. Trump offered 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol and this offer was turned down by Pelosi. One can only wonder why. You ask "what audit" shows suspicious results? Perhaps you fail to recall that the Democrats opposed any audits be done (Not suspicious at all right?). A recount is NOT an audit, and logic would dictate that illegal ballots would still be counted in a recount, it is not rocket science...

You should have followed the news! 

 

According to text messages cited in the report, a representative from the group told a potential rally speaker that Trump "is going to have us march there/the Capitol," and said the information "stays only between us."

"It can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies but POTUS is going to just call for it 'unexpectedly,'"

 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/group-that-planned-jan-6-rally-lied-about-capitol-march-plans-government-report-says/3497604/

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Don't expect a reply that makes sense.

I gave a brief, accurate summary of the events of Jan 6, but I don't think reality makes sense to you.

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

At last, a post that I can agree with 100%. Well done.

Now, how to stop illegal immigration, hmmmmmmm. Perhaps a big wall might do that, but .....................

Right.  Obviously people who have crossed oceans, jungle, mountains and deserts to get to the border will see a wall that a child can climb and give up.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Masterton said:

 

Don't you ever tire of simply repeating Democrat propaganda talking points? Trump did not "send a mob" to the Capitol. Stop talking nonsense. You also know damn well what he meant when he said "fight like hell", just like virtually every other politician has said in the past, including Democrats. Furthermore, the "rampage" at the Capitol started before Trump said that people "should march peacefully and patriotically to make their voices heard". The people who determined that the stolen election was "a lie" were the people on the side of those who "won" it. The people who stormed the Capitol did not do so "after being sent there by Trump". You are the one who needs to "keep up". With reality. Trump offered 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol and this offer was turned down by Pelosi. One can only wonder why. You ask "what audit" shows suspicious results? Perhaps you fail to recall that the Democrats opposed any audits be done (Not suspicious at all right?). A recount is NOT an audit, and logic would dictate that illegal ballots would still be counted in a recount, it is not rocket science...

Really?  You think that mob would have stormed the Capitol if Trump had not called them to DC?

 

You studiously avoided the part about Trump watching the rampage on television while ignoring pleas to do something for three hours.  That is a gross display of criminal neglect of his responsibilities.

 

However you did supplement your post with some old, proven lies:

 

"With reality. Trump offered 10,000 National Guard to protect the Capitol and this offer was turned down by Pelosi."

 

Total echo-chamber BS.  Are you deliberately lying or so ignorant from life in an echo chamber that you don't know better?  Nancy Pelosi was not responsible for Capitol security and didn't have the power to call up the National Guard.  But Trump did.

 

" Perhaps you fail to recall that the Democrats opposed any audits be done (Not suspicious at all right?)."

 

Also BS.  Audits were done in Arizona,  Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/01/06/fact-check-donald-trump-2020-election-results/9115875002/  The election results were found to be legitimate.  What is your proof that Democrats opposed any audits?

 

" A recount is NOT an audit, and logic would dictate that illegal ballots would still be counted in a recount, it is not rocket science..."

 

No it's not rocket science.  You don't overturn an election without proof of fraud.  No proof has been found.  Understand?

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, Masterton said:

 

Don't you ever tire of simply repeating Democrat propaganda talking points? Trump did not "send a mob" to the Capitol. Stop talking nonsense. You also know damn well what he meant when he said "fight like hell", just like virtually every other politician has said in the past, including Democrats. 

You don't get it. Trump talks like a mob boss (who always suspect they might be recorded). So, their commands are couched in weasel language. But their message is clear:

 

"I want you to make sure that Vinnie doesn't testify. I want him off this planet. But don't use violence. I want him gone".

 

It's an old technique aimed at fooling stupid jurors, if the recording is presented at court.

[Danderman123]

On 2/8/2024 at 3:34 AM, Hanaguma said:

How many actually OWN their homes free and clear, how many are paying sharply increased mortgages (due to the Fed raising interest rates) and how many are renting and getting hit with bit increases?

 

Average mortgage payment is close to $3000 a month according to Yahoo Finance- 20% more than just a year ago. Rent is up nearly 30% during the Biden years. 

Home sales rose in January as easing mortgage rates, more homes for sale enticed homebuyers