Israeli Soldier Videos from Gaza Raise International Law Concerns

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, bannork said:

Yes I have, It's not my fault your memory is poor. 

Israel is behaving just like Hamas, wanton killing of innocent civilians.

Both sides are murderous butchers.

 

   Well just for one instance :

Israel are not taking hostages , so no, Hamas are not the same as the IDF

[bannork]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well just for one instance :

Israel are not taking hostages , so no, Hamas are not the same as the IDF

They've just been seizing Palestinian land for decades.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

They've just been seizing Palestinian land for decades.

 

   No, Israel left the Gaza strip, gave it all back to the Palestinian's 

As this is going off topic we really should get back on topic

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, Israel left the Gaza strip, gave it all back to the Palestinian's 

As this is going off topic we really should get back on topic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement#:~:text=Number of settlements and inhabitants,-Main article%3A List&text=of Israeli settlements-,As of January 2023%2C there are 144 Israeli settlements in,government) in the West Bank.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, bannork said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement#:~:text=Number of settlements and inhabitants,-Main article%3A List&text=of Israeli settlements-,As of January 2023%2C there are 144 Israeli settlements in,government) in the West Bank.

 

  

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I haven't counted before the 7/10, but as you brought it up:

It was over fifty years ago that Israel occupied the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, part of which it annexed to Jerusalem. To this day, it continues to control these areas and the people living there. For over half a century, Israel has created a reality of dispossession, oppression and human rights abuses in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

https://conquer-and-divide.btselem.org/map-en.html

 

   48 % of Palestinians living in East Jerusalem have said their would prefer to be Israeli citizens and 42 % stated that they would prefer to be citizens of any new Palestine state 

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Social Media said:

Professor Asa Kasher, who helped draft the IDF's code of conduct, condemned the sharing of images depicting half-naked detainees, stating that it goes against the IDF's ethical standards. Human rights lawyer Michael Mansfield suggested that the footage should be reviewed by a UN court.

Sooooo, posting the images violates the IDF code of conduct, but nothing to say about the atrocities being done to Palestinians.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

They've just been seizing Palestinian land for decades.

They've also been arresting hundreds of West Bank Palestinians and holding them without charge. IMO a vile regime that uses force to subdue an illegally occupied population.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67600015

How Israel jails hundreds of Palestinians without charge

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, Israel left the Gaza strip, gave it all back to the Palestinian's 

As this is going off topic we really should get back on topic

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

 

  Its  Israel's border, they can do what they want with their own border , they decide what crosses their border 

[Wobblybob]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

Does your vehement hatred of Israel extend to Egypt because of their closed border with Gaza, it would appear not. 🥴

[Neeranam]

16 hours ago, Morch said:

 

@Brickleberry

 

Hamas's ideology actually holds that every Israeli male of military service age is a combatant, regardless of whether they are or not.

 

That has nothing to do with what you replied to, jeez Morch. 

You seem intent on defending Israel's genocide for some weird reason. 

 

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

I can't believe that guy is still defending Zionism.

 

Even Amnesty are cataloguing the crimes by Israel

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/shocking-spike-in-use-of-unlawful-lethal-force-by-israeli-forces-against-palestinians-in-the-occupied-west-bank/.

[Morch]

13 hours ago, bannork said:

Yes I have, It's not my fault your memory is poor. 

Israel is behaving just like Hamas, wanton killing of innocent civilians.

Both sides are murderous butchers.

 

What you do is what many of your ilk go for: a short one liner bit 'condemning' Hamas, then going on about Israel. Often comes with some false equivalency disregarding facts or even immediate context.

[Morch]

9 hours ago, bannork said:

They've just been seizing Palestinian land for decades.

 

That's not what the topic is about.

And as this is focused on the Gaza Strip, not even directly relevant.

Try harder.

[Morch]

7 hours ago, bannork said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement#:~:text=Number of settlements and inhabitants,-Main article%3A List&text=of Israeli settlements-,As of January 2023%2C there are 144 Israeli settlements in,government) in the West Bank.

 

Topic ain't about the West Bank. Or Israeli illegal settlements. Try reading the headline.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sooooo, posting the images violates the IDF code of conduct, but nothing to say about the atrocities being done to Palestinians.

 

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Well, you're not too concerned with atrocities committed by Hamas, so why whine?

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They've also been arresting hundreds of West Bank Palestinians and holding them without charge. IMO a vile regime that uses force to subdue an illegally occupied population.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67600015

How Israel jails hundreds of Palestinians without charge

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

And this topic ain't about that.

You people seem to have real issues addressing the OP.

One would have thought there's enough bashing material in it as it were.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

The blockade was put in place due to Hamas's agenda and actions. It was not always there. You want to insist on not linking the two, that's up to you.

You say 'no excuse', there were even UN views that it's legit.

Also, not a word about this being upheld by Egypt as well.

 

This was done over so many times, it's impossible that you're not aware of details.

[Brickleberry]

14 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

After reading your antisemitic posts nobody in their right mind would chose sick perverted murderous beasts like Hamas over a democratic educated country like Israel, you chose to believe these sickos, well that is down to you but count me out. 

 

It is not antisemitic to criticize Israel. Israel does not represent all Jews in the world.

[Brickleberry]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.

There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.

 

Your post is right, but so is the OP, lets get back on topic - Israeli soldiers committing war crimes.

 

At the end of the day, no one can deny that Israel is in breach of over 20 international laws. It willfully ignores the international community and the International court of Justice and has been occupying Palestinian lands for over 56 years. Until Israel starts to follow the law, they cannot complain when they are being attacked by the people they are oppressing.

[Neeranam]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

It actually had to do with the comment I replied to, unlike your nonsense trolling post above.

And, of course, I neither offered defense of anything, not is what you claim true.

 

Try harder, little troll.

It did not, you are lying/baiting. You are unbelievable, you can't answer questions so post stuff totally not related to what was written. Get a life. Like all trolls, you just want people to reply to yoursilly posts.

[transam]

15 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Not quite. They hate Israelis. I wonder why they hate their prison guards? I wonder why they hate the people who occupy their territory, snatch them out of their beds at night, detain them indefinitely, steal their land and force them from their homes... These are just from the last few years.

 

I'm sure you'd hate the people if they did that to you. They are perfectly entitled to hate their tormentors.

 

It is also true that Israelis hate Palestinians: https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-shows-large-swaths-of-israeli-youth-hate-arabs-back-revoking-citizenship/

I don't hate Germans or Japanese.........😉

[Brickleberry]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't hate Germans or Japanese.........😉

 

I'm glad to hear that! It would be a bit strange if you did, because you were not directly affected by these events.

 

Is it not sad that we are talking about who hates each other more? It is pathetic tbh. Israel must start to live up to it's 'democratic, law abiding' status. It is willfully breaking over 26 international laws, is committing war crimes in real time - we can all watch them on social media and the news. We know that the West Bank and other Palestinian lands are under occupation and they live under the control of Israelis. This is just insane! We know this is wrong, the world courts have judged that what Israel has been doing over 5 decades is wrong. Yet still, we blame Hamas.

[Morch]

25 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

It is not antisemitic to criticize Israel. Israel does not represent all Jews in the world.

 

@Brickleberry

 

The poster in question has a history of making openly antisemitic comments. Up and including an assertion that Judaism is a 'murderous religion'.

 

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Your post is right, but so is the OP, lets get back on topic - Israeli soldiers committing war crimes.

 

At the end of the day, no one can deny that Israel is in breach of over 20 international laws. It willfully ignores the international community and the International court of Justice and has been occupying Palestinian lands for over 56 years. Until Israel starts to follow the law, they cannot complain when they are being attacked by the people they are oppressing.

 

@Brickleberry

 

So basically, you're calling for others to return to the topic, then go right ahead and spew off-topic commentary.

And justifying Hamas at the same time.

Great.

[OneMoreFarang]

23 hours ago, Morch said:

Dear me, what inhumanity. Binding prisoners, blindfolding them. The horror.

 

Then, one recalls how the hostages taken by Hamas (and ordinary Gazans) were received upon arrival to Gaza, and goes pffft.

 

23 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

And the world stays quiet about the treatment of Israeli's (and others) taken by Hamas.

Hypocrites.

 

Why is it so difficult for some people to acknowledge that what Hamas does was wrong and what Israel does is also wrong.

The big differences are that Israel is doing it on a much bigger scale for months and with the money and support from the USA.

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I'm glad to hear that! It would be a bit strange if you did, because you were not directly affected by these events.

 

Is it not sad that we are talking about who hates each other more? It is pathetic tbh. Israel must start to live up to it's 'democratic, law abiding' status. It is willfully breaking over 26 international laws, is committing war crimes in real time - we can all watch them on social media and the news. We know that the West Bank and other Palestinian lands are under occupation and they live under the control of Israelis. This is just insane! We know this is wrong, the world courts have judged that what Israel has been doing over 5 decades is wrong. Yet still, we blame Hamas.

 

 

@Brickleberry

 

Anything on topic? Or just the usual Israel Bad stuff?

Noticeably, no expectations of the Palestinians, whatsoever.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

Why is it so difficult for some people to acknowledge that what Hamas does was wrong and what Israel does is also wrong.

The big differences are that Israel is doing it on a much bigger scale for months and with the money and support from the USA.

So you don't know the difference between a sadistic terrorist attack, one of the largest in modern history and the atrocities carried out with intent within that attack and Israels response?

[Brickleberry]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

@Brickleberry

 

So basically, you're calling for others to return to the topic, then go right ahead and spew off-topic commentary.

And justifying Hamas at the same time.

Great.

 

Name of the topic: Israeli soldier videos from Gaza raise international law concerns

 

My post: Commenting that Israel has been breaking international laws for decades.

 

How is this not on topic?