On 2/28/2024 at 10:39 PM, ozimoron said:

 

Indeed. Europe ignored Hitler's rise for too long - until it was too late.

An excuse which has been used for far too long to support insupportable forever wars by the west. 

5 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Funny... try it! Have you ever been to Russia?  Ukraine? You obviously have limited research. It's a proxy war dude.

He's a bit of a dope.

On 3/2/2024 at 3:31 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Fair enough.

 

I did volunteer to go, but in retrospct I'm glad I didn't. I learned many years after that it was not a "good war" to participate in. Since then I don't believe in any wars at all, and IMO they are all "bad".

The world has had too many grieving widows and fatherless children, and it's almost always for BS reasons, WW1 IMO being the biggest example of a war over BS. The only recent wars that were "good" IMO were WW2 and the Korean war. The rest are IMO about money, or oil.

There are no good wars. Wars are the ultimate evil and people who provoke wars are as evil as those that fight in them. 

On 2/28/2024 at 7:14 PM, steven100 said:

This is the best news I've heard in 2 years since Russia invaded Ukraine illegally, killing thousands of civilians and shooting POW's in the head...

 

Go in and slaughter Russia .... go after Putin and destroy his palaces.  Destroy everything Russian.  And if Putin or Lavrov or the other puppet try to use the Nuclear tactic, tell them you'll blow Moscow of the face of the earth with a Nuclear and an Atom at the same time.   Stop cowering to this murderer. 

 

Teach Russia a lesson they'll never ever forget ....  put them back 100 yrs,  no heating,, no fuel, no electricity.

 

Let's get it on  !!

 

SOURCE :  https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-nato-eu-150248389.html

 

 

 

 

 

I like the idea, but not for the entire Russian people. For Putin and his war cabinet, yes, for the military, destroy the bases and the equipment, but try to keep the casualties low if at all possible, yes. For the general population, no, try to keep casualties to a minimum if possible.

On 2/29/2024 at 7:49 PM, steven100 said:

 

The world has read that from three days ago .......   They believe him about as much as they believe Scholz 🤣

You got me there ,

When it comes to NATO decisions , NATO secretary General 's word carries as much weight as the word of some politician in Upper Slovakia . 

From now on, when ever the leadership of NATO says something , I will always say 

"Yea but what does the guy from Slovakia says"

 

58 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I like the idea, but not for the entire Russian people. For Putin and his war cabinet, yes, for the military, destroy the bases and the equipment, but try to keep the casualties low if at all possible, yes. For the general population, no, try to keep casualties to a minimum if possible.

Ukraine already doing that, this is the latest, apart from all the oil depots they already hit recently

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drones-hit-russian-aviation-plant-110000699.html

They'd better hurry then because soon there will not be any Ukraine left.

15 hours ago, Seppius said:

Ukraine already doing that, this is the latest, apart from all the oil depots they already hit recently

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/drones-hit-russian-aviation-plant-110000699.html

That only works for a while. Eventually Russia will develop better air defenses, or punish Ukraine severely.

This isn't a one sided conflict where one side has all the weapons.

On 3/11/2024 at 4:27 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

That only works for a while. Eventually Russia will develop better air defenses, or punish Ukraine severely.

This isn't a one sided conflict where one side has all the weapons.

 The fact is Russia has in-depth cultural reserves. It will NEVER be defeated, and its people will fight to the very end. You would have thought the Germans and the French would have learnt this. They will go into bunker mentality if NATO attacks, and China will join Russia as it, too, will feel threatened. The answer always was - a neutral and free Ukraine and no NATO expansion on Russia's borders. How would the USA like it if Russia put missiles in Cuba... oh wait...

On 2/28/2024 at 7:29 PM, steven100 said:

it's just ridiculous to pour bilions and billions into a war without a strategy for a successful outcome.

Yes it is ridiculous, the "strategy"  was to destabilise/weaken Russia and cause regime change it hasn't worked  both Putin and Russia are in a stronger position  even after the illegal sanctions imposed upon their economy  so the answer is very simple  stop the funding !

unfortunately (for them) the Ukrainians will have to agree to Russia's conditions for cessation of hostilities  but at least they will still have about 80%  of their territory left.

 

There was a "peace: deal on the table right at the beginning but Boris Johnson went to Kiev and scuppered that.

 

On 2/28/2024 at 7:14 PM, steven100 said:

Go in and slaughter Russia .... go after Putin and destroy his palaces.  Destroy everything Russian.

 

Sorry that is just plainly  MAD   Putin has said time and again that he will use nukes if needs be.

You go poking the bear in his cave and he comes out and mauls you to death  isn't it better to leave the bear alone ?

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

 The fact is Russia has in-depth cultural reserves. It will NEVER be defeated, and its people will fight to the very end. You would have thought the Germans and the French would have learnt this. They will go into bunker mentality if NATO attacks, and China will join Russia as it, too, will feel threatened. The answer always was - a neutral and free Ukraine and no NATO expansion on Russia's borders. How would the USA like it if Russia put missiles in Cuba... oh wait...

I assume French and German leaders didn't have history lessons about Russia to come up with such inane ideas, or perhaps trying to impress the mistresses with how tough they are. Macron should know better seeing as Napoleon got his comeuppance attacking Russia.

Russians may be squabbling amongst themselves at present, but invade Russia and regret it.