Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Brickleberry said:

I know...lol that was almost 20 years ago man... not recent!

Do you also know about this one?

 

[BigBruv]

And the rich people who profit from the military industrial complex got the wars & invasions they wanted 👍

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

34 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I would like to see the opinion of the total British population on this.

I believe it may show a widespread distrust towards Israeli sources and less religion related than this survey seems to indicate.

 

   Which Israeli sources do you think that the UK population would mistrust ?

[Brickleberry]

29 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Where is the bit where it states it's ok to throw gays off high rise buildings, stone women to death, marry 9 year old children, cut a soldiers head off in the UK, bomb music venues in Manchester and the list goes on. The religion of peace, I don't think so.

 

I don't think any Abrahamic religions are totally peaceful.

Look at Jews, Muslims, Christians. All of them advocate for violence, and terrible things have been done in each of their names over the centuries and millennia. Interestingly, all 3 religions have Abraham as their common forefather.

[Brickleberry]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Do you also know about this one?

 

 

 

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on. Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

 

The amount of Jews, Arabs and Christians of different flavors that other Christians have murdered over the centuries is unbelievable. The same could be said if you switched any of the three religions. Bosnia was a very recent example, the Holocaust, Apartheid in South Africa was also a religious affair and of course, the Nakba and 75 years of Jewish oppression and land theft.

 

They are all as bad as each other.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, BigBruv said:

 

The ADL for one.  Then the Times & The Sun (owned by (((Rupert Murdoch))).

(((Robert Maxwell))) even bought up McGraw Hill (so there goes your his-strory books).

 

But, to be honest, because of their power over news/media and corporations all MSM are terrified to report anything negative about 'Our Greatest Allies' 

 

(((They))) also fund politician's trips to their country where it seems you have to take a picture wearing a little hat looking sad with your hand on a wall to get on in life

 

System works the same in the UK:

 

 

 

 

   You seem to be getting Israeli owned  mixed up with Jewish owned .

The Sun and the Times  isn't Israeli owned . 

You seem to be saying that the UK's population wouldn't trust media outlets owned by Jews , regardless of the Jews nationality 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

and 75 years of Jewish oppression and land theft.

 

 

   Do you mean the Israeli oppression and land theft ?

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on. Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

 

The amount of Jews, Arabs and Christians of different flavors that other Christians have murdered over the centuries is unbelievable. The same could be said if you switched any of the three religions. Bosnia was a very recent example, the Holocaust, Apartheid in South Africa was also a religious affair and of course, the Nakba and 75 years of Jewish oppression and land theft.

 

They are all as bad as each other.

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on.

 

I don't believe you knew about it, there have been many more also that you obviously don't know about. Who claimed it was only Muslims?

[Brickleberry]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on.

 

I don't believe you knew about it, there have been many more also that you obviously don't know about. Who claimed it was only Muslims?

 

The other chaps.

 

In fairness, I don't think you did... and I don't think I accused you of this (sorry if I did).

[Brickleberry]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you mean the Israeli oppression and land theft ?

 

What are you talking about? When the Romans did it? That was almost 2000 years ago man, you were the one who told me to stay on topic and not to bleat on about the past.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

The other chaps.

 

In fairness, I don't think you did... and I don't think I accused you of this (sorry if I did).

Few more Islamist inspired attacks:

 

2020, 9 January: Two inmates at Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire wearing realistic fake suicide vests, and carrying improvised bladed weapons, stabbed one prison officer several times causing serious injuries and harming several others. One of the inmates, Muslim convert Ziamani, from Camberwell, southeast London, had been jailed for 22 years for hatching a plot to behead a UK soldier inspired by the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby.[81]
2020, 2 February: 2020 Streatham stabbing – Sudesh Amman, wearing a fake suicide vest similar to the one used in the 2019 London Bridge stabbing, was shot dead by armed police after stabbing and injuring two people in Streatham, London Borough of Lambeth. One of the victims sustained life-threatening injuries.
2020, 20 June: 2020 Reading stabbings – On 20 June 2020, Khairi Saadallah, shouting "Allahu Akbar", attacked two groups of people socialising in Forbury Gardens, a public park in the centre of Reading, killing three and injuring three others. On 11 January 2021, he was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Sweeney said that it was a terrorist attack and that the purpose was to advance an extremist Islamic cause.[82]
2021, 15 October: Murder of David Amess – Ali Harbi Ali stabbed MP Sir David Amess at his constituency surgery and was sentenced to life imprisonment with a whole life order.[83]

[Wobblybob]

35 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I don't think any Abrahamic religions are totally peaceful.

Look at Jews, Muslims, Christians. All of them advocate for violence, and terrible things have been done in each of their names over the centuries and millennia. Interestingly, all 3 religions have Abraham as their common forefather.

Quite frankly I don't care what you think, this is about British Muslims and if that troubles you I still don't care. Stop the whataboutery to justify Islam! 

[CG1 Blue]

17 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on. Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

Have you been living under a rock for the past 20 years? Have you seriously not noticed all the Islamist terror attacks across Europe? That's not to mention the Bali bombings, Sharm El Sheikh, the beach attack in Tunisia. 

Here's a list for you, and this is only for the UK!

 

•    2005, 7 July: 7/7 central London bombings conducted by four separate Islamist extremist suicide bombers, which targeted civilians using the public transport system during the morning rush hour. Three bombs were detonated on three separate trains on the London Underground and one on a double-decker bus. As well as the suicide bombers, 52 other people were killed and around 700 more were injured. It was the UK's worst terrorist incident since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing and the first Islamist suicide attack in the country.
•    2007, 30 June: Two Islamist terrorists drove a Jeep Cherokee loaded with propane canisters into the glass doors of the Glasgow Airport terminal, setting it ablaze. Five people were injured and the only death was of one of the perpetrators, who later died in hospital from his injuries. It was the first terrorist attack to take place in Scotland since the Lockerbie bombing in 1988.
•    2010, 14 May: MP Stephen Timms was stabbed during his constituency surgery by Roshonara Choudhry, a British Islamic extremist, in an attempt to kill him. She was found guilty of attempted murder and jailed for life with a minimum term of 15 years. Choudhry was the first Al-Qaeda sympathiser to attempt an assassination in Britain.
•    2013, 22 May: A British soldier, Lee Rigby, was murdered in an attack in Woolwich by Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, two Islamist extremists armed with a handgun, knives and a cleaver. Both men were sentenced to life imprisonment, with Adebolajo given a whole life order and Adebowale ordered to serve at least 45 years.[55]
•    2017, 22 March: 2017 Westminster attack – Khalid Masood, a 52-year-old Islamist, drove a car into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, killing three and injuring almost fifty, one of whom died two weeks later. He ran into the grounds of the Palace of Westminster and fatally stabbed police officer Keith Palmer, before being shot dead by police. The attack was treated as an act of terrorism motivated by Islamic extremism.[60][61][62][63]
•    2017, 22 May: Manchester Arena bombing – An Islamist suicide bomber, 22-year-old Salman Abedi, blew himself up at Manchester Arena as people were leaving an Ariana Grande concert, killing 22 and injuring 139. It became the deadliest terrorist attack in Britain since the 7/7 London bombings in 2005. Many of the victims were children or teenagers, the youngest being an eight-year-old girl.[64][65]
•    2017, 3 June: 2017 London Bridge attack – Three Islamists drove a van into pedestrians on London bridge before stabbing people in and around pubs in nearby Borough Market. Eight people were killed and at least 48 wounded.[66][67][68] The attackers were shot dead by police eight minutes after the incident was reported. All three were wearing fake suicide bomb vests.
•    2017, 15 September: Parsons Green bombing – The London tube train was targeted and witnesses reported a flash and bang.[75] Thirty people were injured, mostly with flash burns and crush injuries, but there were no fatalities. The threat level was raised to its highest point of critical soon after.[76] Ahmed Hassan, who committed the bombing, received a life sentence with a minimum term of 34 years.
•    2018, 14 August: 2018 Westminster car attack – A Ford Fiesta ran down pedestrians outside the palace of Westminster. The car then went on to crash into the security barrier, after aiming at two police officers.[77] Salih Khater, who carried out the attack received a life sentence with a minimum term of 15 years.
•    2018, 31 December: Mahdi Mohamud, a Dutch national from a Somali family, stabbed three in a knife attack at Manchester Victoria station. Mohamud shouted "Allahu Akbar!" and "Long live the Caliphate!" during the attack. Despite suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, Mahomud was convicted of a terror offence and attempted murder of three people due to his possession of significant amounts of extremist material and the attack's extensive planning.
•    2019, 29 November: 2019 London Bridge stabbing – On 29 November 2019, police were called to a stabbing near London Bridge, in Central London, England, at 1:58 pm. A statement said that one man was detained, and "a number of people" were injured. Two people were killed in the attack and three were left injured. The attacker, 28 year old Usman Khan, was shot dead by police and confirmed dead on the scene.[79][80]
•    2020, 9 January: Two inmates at Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire wearing realistic fake suicide vests, and carrying improvised bladed weapons, stabbed one prison officer several times causing serious injuries and harming several others. One of the inmates, Muslim convert Ziamani, from Camberwell, southeast London, had been jailed for 22 years for hatching a plot to behead a UK soldier inspired by the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby.[81]
•    2020, 2 February: 2020 Streatham stabbing – Sudesh Amman, wearing a fake suicide vest similar to the one used in the 2019 London Bridge stabbing, was shot dead by armed police after stabbing and injuring two people in Streatham, London Borough of Lambeth. One of the victims sustained life-threatening injuries.
•    2020, 20 June: 2020 Reading stabbings – On 20 June 2020, Khairi Saadallah, shouting "Allahu Akbar", attacked two groups of people socialising in Forbury Gardens, a public park in the centre of Reading, killing three and injuring three others. On 11 January 2021, he was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Sweeney said that it was a terrorist attack and that the purpose was to advance an extremist Islamic cause.[82]
•    2021, 15 October: Murder of David Amess – Ali Harbi Ali stabbed MP Sir David Amess at his constituency surgery and was sentenced to life imprisonment with a whole life order.[83]
•    2021, 14 November: Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing – Emad Al-Swealmeen, carrying a homemade bomb, arrived at the Liverpool Women's Hospital by taxi. The bomb exploded, killing him and injuring the driver. The incident was quickly described as terrorist.[84]

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

13 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

More than just sad.  The Brits had better do something pretty quick before the religious fanatics take over.  I"ll leave to your imagination as what should be done.

Its not just the religious fans ,Its many disillusioned Brits that support them !

From the Mp’s all the way up to  leftists  activists working in the media!

 

imop

[riclag]

A little history repeating itself!

The enemy of the people will help cause the destruction of western civilization as we know it.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/holocaust-deniers-and-public-misinformation

[Purdey]

Excuse the sarcasm but... Not surprising that some found the news hard to believe, what with Islam being a religion of peace and all that.

Mind you, others found it hard to believe that the British created the first concentration camps.

I guess it is always hard to believe that "your people" did something terrible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II#United_Kingdom

Education is really needed.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

 

 

Not only, but mostly; you have to research diligently to find non islamic acts of terrorism in recent history, but these islamic acts sprang easily to my recall:

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

 

All these slaughters of innocent western civilians, and there are hundreds more, yes, hundreds more, were carried out by adherents to the faith of Islam.

 

Islam is not a religion like any other religion; it is by doctrine, a misogynistic, homophobic, barbaric, medieval, supremacist ideology, which states clearly its aim for global dominance by force.

 

It openly practices the subjugation of all women, the eradication of all gays, and promotes the female genital mutilation of 12 year old children, as well as advocating men marrying their 10 year old cousins ….. but the greater danger that it presents to western civilisation, is that it has people like you appeasing this cancer on civilisation ….. shame on you.    

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

 

What are you talking about? When the Romans did it? That was almost 2000 years ago man, you were the one who told me to stay on topic and not to bleat on about the past.

 

   You said Jewish land theft, I asked whether you mean Israeli land theft .

I have a feeling that you don't know the difference between an Israeli and a Jew and they are both the same to you .

   What did you mean by Jewish land theft ?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

I know...lol that was almost 20 years ago man... not recent!

 

Says the man who in a recent post mentioned events from 1947 ….. different rules of engagement for you obviously.

[Brickleberry]

24 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Says the man who in a recent post mentioned events from 1947 ….. different rules of engagement for you obviously.

erm... what?

[Brickleberry]

40 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Islam is not a religion like any other religion; it is by doctrine, a misogynistic, homophobic, barbaric, medieval, supremacist ideology, which states clearly its aim for global dominance by force.

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

 

   Are you a recent Western convert to Islam ?

[BigBruv]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You said Jewish land theft, I asked whether you mean Israeli land theft .

I have a feeling that you don't know the difference between an Israeli and a Jew and they are both the same to you .

   What did you mean by Jewish land theft ?

 

What fo you mean by Jew and Israeli?

You have to be a 'jew' to immigrate there (and be an Israeli) don't you?

 

Very confusing as to qualify as JewIsh, your mother has to be 'JewIsh' BUT non Jewish women can covert and become 'JewIsh' mothers 🤯

Is that correct?

If so it's a bit ridiculous - never mind that most 'jew Ish' people don't look in the slightest bit middle eastern which suggests most are probably Revelation 3:9ers.

 

 

[BigBruv]

1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet....

women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

 

IMHO the pendulum has swung a bit too far towards 'liberal' ideals.

Maybe sharia is a natural reaction - Zoomers certainly seem to be rejecting boomer style self centred debauchery.

Ped doh feel ya is still illegal in the west so I guess 'we' haven't gone full retard quite yet though - for now at least.

 

But do you believe the changes you mentioned and the rest have benefitted society?

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

10 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Link please if you can possibly find one.

Welcome to Retarius's club.

Do you like dwelling in the slime under flat stones?

[Hawaiian]

5 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, from what I see online, people who identify as “Muslim” make up 6.5 percent of the UK population, and the number of those who hold fanatical beliefs would be much less, so to hyperventilate about “[Muslim] religious fanatics taking over” seems excessive. That said, the large numbers of UK Muslims who sympathize with Hamas and deny their attack on Israel is indeed alarming. This, however, speaks more to the growing influence of disinformation more generally, not only in the UK but around the world. There would be ways to counter that disinformation and educate people, which might require some patience but would be far preferable to the mass deportations that you advocate (I assume, in your veiled threat: why not just say what’s on your mind?), and all the human misery and violence such deportations would entail.

Looks like you have allowed YOUR imagination to run wild. 

[Hawaiian]

2 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

History shows that a recipe for disaster is mixing religion and politics.  Oops. Shouldn't have used the word "history."

[Hummin]

6 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

History shows that a recipe for disaster is mixing religion and politics.  Oops. Shouldn't have used the word "history."

Religion is tools for politics, always been

[Hummin]

9 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Not only, but mostly; you have to research diligently to find non islamic acts of terrorism in recent history, but these islamic acts sprang easily to my recall:

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

 

All these slaughters of innocent western civilians, and there are hundreds more, yes, hundreds more, were carried out by adherents to the faith of Islam.

 

Islam is not a religion like any other religion; it is by doctrine, a misogynistic, homophobic, barbaric, medieval, supremacist ideology, which states clearly its aim for global dominance by force.

 

It openly practices the subjugation of all women, the eradication of all gays, and promotes the female genital mutilation of 12 year old children, as well as advocating men marrying their 10 year old cousins ….. but the greater danger that it presents to western civilisation, is that it has people like you appeasing this cancer on civilisation ….. shame on you.    

 

 

Thats only one side of the history.

 

War and terror comes in phases, and believing one side is satan and one side is good only, is gullible at its best 

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats only one side of the history.

 

War and terror comes in phases, and believing one side is satan and one side is good only, is gullible at its best 

They are horrific terror attacks deliberately murdering innocent civilians, children, women and men. Period.