On 4/9/2024 at 5:18 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Smoking in general ? or smoking weed on a boat in public ?....   in either case some people are just ignorant ayholes and don't care where their smoke blows - they are either dumb and ignorantly inconsiderate, or deliberately careless.

 

 

 

I've had a couple of issues in the past with ignorant cigarette smokers being completely careless....  Weed smokers seem to be a little more considerate but the smell goes a long distance. 

 

In this case it seems and idiot was just being a careless idiot... throwing the joint into the water highlights the degree of ignorance there.

 

 

Why does throwing the joint highlight ignorance? I'm curious.

1 hour ago, sumaterani said:

it's windy on a moving boat more than on the beach so probably that dude thought it won't bother the other passengers.

 

As a fellow potsmoker and foreigner, I apologize it bothered you, we usually just wanna have good times. 

 

I always rent a hotel or Airbnb with balcony, that's where I smoke cannabis or at some dispensaries if they provide the facility.

You dont get it do you? 

 

I feel sorry for you!

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Why does throwing the joint highlight ignorance? I'm curious.

 

Littering so overtly....      he just threw thew joint into the water instead of putting it out and putting the remains (roach) in a bin.

 

....  thus, IMO... anyone littering in such an manner exposes a degree of indifference to his surroundings and those around him, this IMO is ignorant. 

 

 

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

You dont get it do you? 

 

I feel sorry for you!

well, I apologized in good faith, that's on my part. I didn't ask for tolerance because I know it's wrong and against the law, I acknowledge he shouldn't smoke in public transport.

 

But I do see the problem here actually wasn't intentional, not all potheads have the same awareness or discipline; Anyway, I understand your anger, it will be more effective if you asked him to be fined at the moment on pier, don't forget to take some evidences because it's required by the law; that probably should satisfy you and teach him a big deal.

7 hours ago, sumaterani said:

well, I apologized in good faith, that's on my part. I didn't ask for tolerance because I know it's wrong and against the law, I acknowledge he shouldn't smoke in public transport.

 

But I do see the problem here actually wasn't intentional, not all potheads have the same awareness or discipline; Anyway, I understand your anger, it will be more effective if you asked him to be fined at the moment on pier, don't forget to take some evidences because it's required by the law; that probably should satisfy you and teach him a big deal.

Who said I was angry? And you still do not get the rel problem here, which is lack of respect in public in front of families with small children! 

 

 

 

 

And it is getting worse.

 

Smoking at public places has escalated. At ferry terminal, the beaches, at restaurants (which I did not see last year. At the bars yes, but normal restaurants no. 

 

We come with family and kids, and nobody give a <deleted>. It is normal now, and the tourists take it for granted, this is legal, or there is no consequences due to smoking in public.

 

The average thais? What do they think about it? How will this impact the future regulations of legal weed in Thailand?

 

 

Since the offender was a foreigner, I would have confronted him.

 

Had it been a Thai, I would have told the ship crew or management to deal with him. I am fluent in Thai, but I don't confront Thais if their behavior bothers me (unless it's something very serious...though that has never happened before) because I know they don't handle criticism well. However, when you tell an authority figure about someone else, they'll handle the problem for you. Thais respond to authority figures and quickly do what they're told when a complaint is made. 

On 1/5/2025 at 1:12 PM, Hummin said:

And it is getting worse.

 

Smoking at public places has escalated. At ferry terminal, the beaches, at restaurants (which I did not see last year. At the bars yes, but normal restaurants no. 

 

We come with family and kids, and nobody give a <deleted>. It is normal now, and the tourists take it for granted, this is legal, or there is no consequences due to smoking in public.

 

The average thais? What do they think about it? How will this impact the future regulations of legal weed in Thailand?

 

 

 

You mean smoking weed in public? 

 

Well, it only became legal in 2022. 

 

However, I have to disagree - most foreign stoners / cannabis users tend to be quite respectful and smoke only where it's permitted. Essentially, other than at cannabis cafes and dispensaries, I have yet to see any widespread flouting of the law. There ARE consequences and foreigners are likely to be fined 2000-5000 Baht if caught by the police. 

I often go to tourist areas, but I don't spend my time hanging out in tourist ghettoes, which may account for my perceptions being different. For me, the most touristy places I visit are cities such as Chiang Mai, Koh Chang, Ao Nang, Krabi sometimes for a night and Khao Lak. 

 

I guess if you're in the middle of Koh Phangan where everyone is a foreigner, it's more likely you'll stumble across some disrespectful foreigners lighting up, but generally speaking, at restaurants where smoking of anything is banned, neither Thais nor foreigners do so. They usually go outside to smoke. 

 

Again, I emphasize that I don't hang out in Phangan, Samui, Phuket etc. I've never even been to the first two. I do visit Koh Chang on occasion and haven't seen anyone smoking weed where they're not supposed to. I occasionally pass through Pattaya on a day trip, but except for someone smoking on the street, I haven't seen any tourist "misbehaving" either. Don't know about bars, but might happen at some of the girlie bars. Not my kind of scene so I can't comment as I'm not a sexpat. 

8 hours ago, Tomtomtom69 said:

 

You mean smoking weed in public? 

 

Well, it only became legal in 2022. 

 

However, I have to disagree - most foreign stoners / cannabis users tend to be quite respectful and smoke only where it's permitted. Essentially, other than at cannabis cafes and dispensaries, I have yet to see any widespread flouting of the law. There ARE consequences and foreigners are likely to be fined 2000-5000 Baht if caught by the police. 

I often go to tourist areas, but I don't spend my time hanging out in tourist ghettoes, which may account for my perceptions being different. For me, the most touristy places I visit are cities such as Chiang Mai, Koh Chang, Ao Nang, Krabi sometimes for a night and Khao Lak. 

 

I guess if you're in the middle of Koh Phangan where everyone is a foreigner, it's more likely you'll stumble across some disrespectful foreigners lighting up, but generally speaking, at restaurants where smoking of anything is banned, neither Thais nor foreigners do so. They usually go outside to smoke. 

 

Again, I emphasize that I don't hang out in Phangan, Samui, Phuket etc. I've never even been to the first two. I do visit Koh Chang on occasion and haven't seen anyone smoking weed where they're not supposed to. I occasionally pass through Pattaya on a day trip, but except for someone smoking on the street, I haven't seen any tourist "misbehaving" either. Don't know about bars, but might happen at some of the girlie bars. Not my kind of scene so I can't comment as I'm not a sexpat. 

 

Glad to hear you're not a sexpat.

17 hours ago, Tomtomtom69 said:

 

You mean smoking weed in public? 

 

Well, it only became legal in 2022. 

 

However, I have to disagree - most foreign stoners / cannabis users tend to be quite respectful and smoke only where it's permitted. Essentially, other than at cannabis cafes and dispensaries, I have yet to see any widespread flouting of the law. There ARE consequences and foreigners are likely to be fined 2000-5000 Baht if caught by the police. 

I often go to tourist areas, but I don't spend my time hanging out in tourist ghettoes, which may account for my perceptions being different. For me, the most touristy places I visit are cities such as Chiang Mai, Koh Chang, Ao Nang, Krabi sometimes for a night and Khao Lak. 

 

I guess if you're in the middle of Koh Phangan where everyone is a foreigner, it's more likely you'll stumble across some disrespectful foreigners lighting up, but generally speaking, at restaurants where smoking of anything is banned, neither Thais nor foreigners do so. They usually go outside to smoke. 

 

Again, I emphasize that I don't hang out in Phangan, Samui, Phuket etc. I've never even been to the first two. I do visit Koh Chang on occasion and haven't seen anyone smoking weed where they're not supposed to. I occasionally pass through Pattaya on a day trip, but except for someone smoking on the street, I haven't seen any tourist "misbehaving" either. Don't know about bars, but might happen at some of the girlie bars. Not my kind of scene so I can't comment as I'm not a sexpat. 

Smoking tobacco as well weed have escalated since weed became legal from medical purposes. It have never become legal to smoke in public, and based on the feedback and reactions here, it seems many on the forum being triggered by just basic common sense. 

 

I do not mind if it becomes illegal again, and police also follow up smoking at public places as they promised 8 years back. It is up to the users of weed to preserve the rights they have for now, not me, but indeed they fail so. 

 

To all of you towers, it is not me you hurting, it is your freedom to buy legal pot everywhere in Thailand without risk to be prosecuted. 

On 4/9/2024 at 6:26 PM, Bday Prang said:

not wrong at all , I reckon it was purely a rhetorical question the purpose of which was purely to express righteous indignation at the behaviour of others.   Not unexpected really considering  the current media frenzy /crackdown on foreigners.Its quite contagious,  There are a few on here who mistakenly  believe that criticising foreigners sets them above all others and elevates their status with the Thais, so its basically a mixture of virtue signalling, whilst at the same time appeasing the ever present lynch mob.  I'm just surprised there was no call for blacklisting or deportation

   His fictional concern for the other Thai family was truly heart rending and more than a little nauseating

   I'm starting to think it was a totally imaginary scenario

 

 

 

 

 

Seems we had this discussion before. We'll, what happens now? See, 

 

No consequences no emphasis or no understanding, nothing learned.

 

When actions lack consequences, emphasis, or lead to a lack of understanding, learning is severely impaired. Without experiencing the effects of actions, individuals may not grasp the connection between their behavior and outcomes, hindering the development of appropriate behavior patterns and problem-solving skills. This can lead to a cycle of repeating mistakes and a failure to adapt and improve. 

On 4/9/2024 at 6:11 PM, bamnutsak said:

 

The OP asked the offender "to politely not smoke in public".

 

Strangely he did not ask the offender his primary question...

 

 

 

The OP was in the best position to ask the "foreign tourist" why they think they're allowed to smoke in public.

 

 

Asking here seems, well, weird.

 

Am I wrong in wondering why the OP posed a question?

 

 

 

Wrong's not the word.

Im not sure how long this will be available, but he gives a pretty good example of himself

https://www.facebook.com/reel/885651257451148/?fs=e&fs=e

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure how long this will be available, but he gives a pretty good example of himself

What an a hole. Its not your property stupid its a resort.

9 hours ago, blaze master said:

What an a hole. Its not your property stupid its a resort.

But she agreed that he could smoke...until he told her that he would complain to Booking.com.

8 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

But she agreed that he could smoke...until he told her that he would complain to Booking.com.

I think I said everything about the video that is necessary to say? He is a very good example what the thread is about. You might see it differently.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

I think I said everything about the video that is necessary to say? He is a very good example what the thread is about. You might see it differently.

In other words, you find yourself unable to discuss the content of the, at least, two months old video that you posted.

I see no problem. He was polite. They discussed it. She agreed that he could smoke. So what's the issue in YOUR mind?

7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

In other words, you find yourself unable to discuss the content of the, at least, two months old video that you posted.

I see no problem. He was polite. They discussed it. She agreed that he could smoke. So what's the issue in YOUR mind?

You find that polite, and I said you might see it differently, and indeed you do!

Where I come from, there is nothing about his video the represent being a polite customer.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You find that polite, and I said you might see it differently, and indeed you do!

Where I come from, there is nothing about his video the represent being a polite customer.

For me, he was polite. No rude words. No display of anger. I think you are blinded by your obvious bias.

He comes from the same country as you do. Not only that, but I have very many Scandinavian friends.

So I don't know where you are claiming to have come from. But for me, he would be polite in Norway as he was in Thailand.

He cooperated with everything. He was helpful and respectful. That you cannot see that, is tied up with your own emotions.

Of course you are welcome to pinpoint the places in the video where you felt that he was impolite. I'll be happy to review it again.

I'm no fan of smoking in public, but this was a completely reasonable exchange.

Both parties behaved in a civilized manner to resolve an issue, but the retards here manage to make it a bigger issue.

12 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

For me, he was polite. No rude words. No display of anger. I think you are blinded by your obvious bias.

He comes from the same country as you do. Not only that, but I have very many Scandinavian friends.

So I don't know where you are claiming to have come from. But for me, he would be polite in Norway as he was in Thailand.

He cooperated with everything. He was helpful and respectful. That you cannot see that, is tied up with your own emotions.

Of course you are welcome to pinpoint the places in the video where you felt that he was impolite. I'll be happy to review it again.

I'm no fan of smoking in public, but this was a completely reasonable exchange.

Can start with she had asked him not to smoke on her Resort several times, and based on the video, he knows her English is poor, and obviously the police do not understand a word being said, and he keep on talking about his property, and threatening her with social media. So even the tone is reasonable polite, there is nothing that reminds of being respectful toward the host.

But I guess you still want to continue this conversation about this little cosy incident or talk?

Just for her feeling the need to calling the police, which very rarely happens in Thailand, because thais in general do not want to have anything to do with police, should also tell you something.

He was lucky

22 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Can start with she had asked him not to smoke on her Resort several times, and based on the video, he knows her English is poor, and obviously the police do not understand a word being said, and he keep on talking about his property, and threatening her with social media. So even the tone is reasonable polite, there is nothing that reminds of being respectful toward the host.

But I guess you still want to continue this conversation about this little cosy incident or talk?

Just for her feeling the need to calling the police, which very rarely happens in Thailand, because thais in general do not want to have anything to do with police, should also tell you something.

He was lucky

It seems that you have created a scenario that does not exist on the video. I reviewed it again and she agreed that it was okay for him to smoke...until he threatened to complain to Booking.com.

Again, a perfectly reasonable conversation. She put her side and he put his side.

As to him knowing her English was poor, that's again just something you made up.

I, on the other hand, could point out that he didn't know those men were not police, but community helpers. Did he know that? So she was fooling him.

Fact is that nothing he was doing was against the law. He was right. But if someone complains, then it's right to modify your behaviour. Which he did.

It seem that you really want to find something against the guy. One of your fellow countrymen. I think that the problem is inherent in you.

I recently spoke to my neighbour about a smoke issue. We talked and he stopped. Normal. No need to post a video about it on a forum in order to castigate. You need to think about why you are behaving in such a manner.