A Weary Trump Appears to Doze Off in Courtroom Ahead of Criminal Trial

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

The only possible reason for this trial is for Biden to use it as an excuse to avoid debating Trump.  Hell, I was listening to clips of him from even 3 years ago- the difference is stark. No way Biden can hold up for 90 minutes or 2 hours facing questions and follow-ups. 

 

Even if every charge was dismissed against Trump tomorrow, no way in the world Biden debates Trump. 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The only possible reason for this trial is for Biden to use it as an excuse to avoid debating Trump.  Hell, I was listening to clips of him from even 3 years ago- the difference is stark. No way Biden can hold up for 90 minutes or 2 hours facing questions and follow-ups. 

 

Biden has nothing to do with whether this New York case is being prosecuted or not.

Your predictions on what a debate will be like are pure speculation.

It's Trump who is rapidly deteriorating now.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Even if every charge was dismissed against Trump tomorrow, no way in the world Biden debates Trump. 

Opinion without basis.

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What I said was, that I believe the misdemeanor charge of misreporting the reimbursement payment to Cohen as legal fees rather that NDA payment is credible.

 

So no, I don't think he should be in court. 

It's New York law that defendants in criminal cases be in court.

So what you think is irrelevant unless you think Trump is above the law.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Your right, it's not the court, the court is just a building. 

The only reason Trump has to be present is because Alvin Bragg (representing the people) objects to him not being present. Better" 

 

 

It's nice the judge has disallowed orthodox Jews, from the jury....

The only reason Trump is in court is because he broke the law. Can't intelligently spin it any other way

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

The only possible reason for this trial is for Biden to use it as an excuse to avoid debating Trump.  Hell, I was listening to clips of him from even 3 years ago- the difference is stark. No way Biden can hold up for 90 minutes or 2 hours facing questions and follow-ups. 

 

BS

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Even if every charge was dismissed against Trump tomorrow, no way in the world Biden debates Trump. 

Biden is an expert at debates. Been doing it for decades. Unlike Trump

[scottiejohn]

19 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The only reason Trump is in court is because he broke the law. Can't intelligently spin it any other way

The only reason Trump is in court is because it is alleged and subsequently charged that he broke the law. Can't intelligently spin it any other way

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's New York law that defendants in criminal cases be in court.

So what you think is irrelevant unless you think Trump is above the law.

 

As shown earlier in the thread: 

1. Trump would only need to be in the court every day if the prosecutor demands it. 

2. What I said was: "...that I believe the misdemeanor charge of misreporting the reimbursement payment to Cohen as legal fees rather that NDA payment is credible." and (again as shown earlier in the thread) any defendant would not have to appear in court for a misdemeanor charge. 

 

I don't think Trump is above the law, but neither do I think he is below the law.  

[Roo Island]

8 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

The only reason Trump is in court is because it is alleged and subsequently charged that he broke the law. Can't intelligently spin it any other way

A few court cases have been decided. He broke the law.

[Roo Island]

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

As shown earlier in the thread: 

1. Trump would only need to be in the court every day if the prosecutor demands it. 

2. What I said was: "...that I believe the misdemeanor charge of misreporting the reimbursement payment to Cohen as legal fees rather that NDA payment is credible." and (again as shown earlier in the thread) any defendant would not have to appear in court for a misdemeanor charge. 

 

I don't think Trump is above the law, but neither do I think he is below the law.  

It's called election interference. Sad that the press and politicians say it's about hush money.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

As shown earlier in the thread: 

1. Trump would only need to be in the court every day if the prosecutor demands it. 

2. What I said was: "...that I believe the misdemeanor charge of misreporting the reimbursement payment to Cohen as legal fees rather that NDA payment is credible." and (again as shown earlier in the thread) any defendant would not have to appear in court for a misdemeanor charge. 

 

I don't think Trump is above the law, but neither do I think he is below the law.  

The law demands Defendant Trump be in court, the Judge may under limited circumstances permit Defendant Trump to not be in court and then only if The People do not object - so not at the Judges sole discretion.

 

As for your point 2, it doesn’t matter what you think, Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 counts of fraudulent business accounting pursuant to another crime - not a Misdemeanor- 34 felony counts.

 

Read the indictment and stop gaslighting this misdemeanor nonsense.

 

Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 Felony counts.

 

Defendant Trump is under the law.

 

And he’s back in court again today.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

Edited April 18 by Chomper Higgot

[Skipalongcassidy]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The law demands Defendant Trump be in court, the Judge may under limited circumstances permit Defendant Trump to not be in court and then only if The People do not object - so not at the Judges sole discretion.

 

As for your point 2, it doesn’t matter what you think, Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 counts of fraudulent business accounting pursuant to another crime - not a Misdemeanor- 34 felony counts.

 

Read the indictment and stop gaslighting this misdemeanor nonsense.

 

Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 Felony counts.

 

Defendant Trump is under the law.

 

And he’s back in court again today.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

"There are a few exceptions. Trump could ask to be excused and waive his right to be present, but the prosecution could object"... then it becomes solely the judges decision whether to allow trump to waive his right to be present and overrule the "peoples" objection... why do you always stop short of a complete explanation?  After all you are the wizard of all things... and know it all... please give us complete knowledge in the future... PLEASE

[Chomper Higgot]

23 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

"There are a few exceptions. Trump could ask to be excused and waive his right to be present, but the prosecution could object"... then it becomes solely the judges decision whether to allow trump to waive his right to be present and overrule the "peoples" objection... why do you always stop short of a complete explanation?  After all you are the wizard of all things... and know it all... please give us complete knowledge in the future... PLEASE

Not on felony charges he can’t.

 

I have provided a link to relevant law and to Parker Warning.

 

Let’s pretend Trump is sitting in court because he likes being their shall we?!

 

 

 

 

Edited April 18 by Chomper Higgot

[Skipalongcassidy]

10 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Biden is an expert at debates. Been doing it for decades. Unlike Trump

Dang... I spit out my coffee laughing when I read that.  Name one debate that joe did and was good at it... do you just make things up as you go?

[Tug]

14 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Dang... I spit out my coffee laughing when I read that.  Name one debate that joe did and was good at it... do you just make things up as you go?

Well last time with trump for one,trump didn’t debate he just blustered like a kid on the play ground here’s a clue how was trumps Gettysburg spiel a day or so back? You can’t possibly think trump has a grasp on anything after that spectacle personally I’d love to see Biden take him apart but the debate has to have rules if trump starts his circus act he gets muted he gets fact checked in real time and called out immediately when he lies.

[Roo Island]

52 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Dang... I spit out my coffee laughing when I read that.  Name one debate that joe did and was good at it... do you just make things up as you go?

At least he's not sniffing because he snorted Adderall like Trump did. Sad some bash others just due to their political leaning. Shows what's wrong with America. Too much hatred.

 

P.S. I'm no fan of Biden, but given the choice, he's the better man. At least he'll pick good cabinet members and try to heal this ridiculous divide.

 

Worth a read. Stunning.

 

These cabinet- level appointees saw Donald Trump up close. And they decided they couldn’t stand by him.

 

Mr. Trump churned through cabinet-level appointees so fast that at times it seemed like he was still on “The Apprentice” and had to fire one official every week. These appointees didn’t start out opposed to Mr. Trump. Not only are they people whom Mr. Trump chose — he claimed he would hire the “best people” — they are people who thought Mr. Trump was worth working for. But many of them quickly became alarmed by Mr. Trump’s personality, temperament and policy aims.

[zakalwe]

Hitler Pig can't stay awake.

[candide]

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Dang... I spit out my coffee laughing when I read that.  Name one debate that joe did and was good at it... do you just make things up as you go?

Trump can certainly debate better than Biden. That's why he won the previous election!

Oh wait! 😃

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Trump can certainly debate better than Biden. That's why he won the previous election!

Oh wait! 😃

And many with TDS still believe that! Shows the intelligence level of his supporters.

[Chomper Higgot]

In preparation for the possibility of Defendant Trump testifying in his criminal trial (however ill advised testifying might be), the Prosecution have filed Sandoval Notice.

 

It makes interesting reading:

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24554326-peoples-sandoval-notice-filed

 

 

[Danderman123]

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-omarosa-attention-deficit/

 

"I will tell you, I have had to sit through long ceremonies with Donald Trump," said Manigault Newman. "I've had to sit next to him during long church services or different policy events. And Donald Trump cannot focus, nor can he sit still for very long. In fact, we used to build our events specifically to address his attention deficit. We would break up the events so that he be stimulated and not fall asleep. We could slide him different information or news articles he could read while the long proceedings were going on, anything to keep him focused so he wouldn't get up and walk out. I think it's going to be difficult for Donald to sit through eight weeks of these proceedings. Sometimes they're not exciting, sometimes they're very boring. And as you heard, he sometimes falls asleep during these sessions."

 

Our friends the Trump fans won't even see the above quote.

[HappyExpat57]

57 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In preparation for the possibility of Defendant Trump testifying in his criminal trial (however ill advised testifying might be), the Prosecution have filed Sandoval Notice.

 

It makes interesting reading:

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24554326-peoples-sandoval-notice-filed

 

 

 

Damn! If you take the time to read this, you start to realize that the disgraced former president is a CRIMINAL!

[Chomper Higgot]

42 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

Damn! If you take the time to read this, you start to realize that the disgraced former president is a CRIMINAL!

For sure you’d start to realize why it’s a really bad idea for Defendant Trump to take the stand.

[ballpoint]

49 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

For sure you’d start to realize why it’s a really bad idea for Defendant Trump to take the stand.

 

So maybe his own lawyers are sedating him to prevent that, or at least prevent an outburst from him.  Might be the smartest thing they've ever done.

[Yellowtail]

13 hours ago, Roo Island said:

It's called election interference. Sad that the press and politicians say it's about hush money.

Do you know what election interference is? 

If so, can you provide a definition? 

If so, can you explain how keeping the story out of the press is election interference, per your definition?

 

Thanks! 

 

[Yellowtail]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The law demands Defendant Trump be in court, the Judge may under limited circumstances permit Defendant Trump to not be in court and then only if The People do not object - so not at the Judges sole discretion.

 

As for your point 2, it doesn’t matter what you think, Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 counts of fraudulent business accounting pursuant to another crime - not a Misdemeanor- 34 felony counts.

 

Read the indictment and stop gaslighting this misdemeanor nonsense.

 

Defendant Trump is indicted on 34 Felony counts.

 

Defendant Trump is under the law.

 

And he’s back in court again today.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

Indeed, the only reason Trump has to be in court is because Alvin Bragg objects. Yes, we have been over this, and we agree. 

 

And yes, there are 34 felony counts that have been cobbled together using the hush-money misdemeanor bookkeeping charges and calling the payment a campaign finance violation, correct? 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Indeed, the only reason Trump has to be in court is because Alvin Bragg objects. Yes, we have been over this, and we agree. 

 

And yes, there are 34 felony counts that have been cobbled together using the hush-money misdemeanor bookkeeping charges and calling the payment a campaign finance violation, correct? 

 

 

 

Yet more misrepresentation of reality.

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not on felony charges he can’t.

 

I have provided a link to relevant law and to Parker Warning.

 

Let’s pretend Trump is sitting in court because he likes being their shall we?!

 

 

 

 

And I provided a subsequent link showing you were wrong in your assessment. The judge could allow him to not be present as long as the people (in this case Alvin Bragg) does not object. 

 

We've been over this, and you know this. 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yet more misrepresentation of reality.

How? 

 

The whole trial and all the charges revolve around the hush money being reported as legal fees paid to Michael Cohen, and the state claiming it was actually a campaign expense.