Popular Post Social Media Posted April 19, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 19, 2024 Amidst a pro-Palestine demonstration in London last Saturday, an unsettling incident unfolded as Gideon Falter, the head of the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), was confronted by Metropolitan Police officers. The encounter, captured on video and shared widely on social media, revealed a troubling narrative of perceived discrimination against Falter solely based on his Jewish identity. In the footage, Falter, donning a traditional Jewish skull cap known as a kippah, was prevented from crossing a road near the demonstration in London's Aldwych area. Officers informed him that his presence, being "quite openly Jewish," could potentially lead to a "breach of peace" amidst the pro-Palestinian march. One officer went as far as to assert that Falter's mere existence was "antagonising" the demonstrators. This incident has reignited discussions surrounding the prevalence of antisemitism and the perceived vulnerability of Jewish individuals, particularly in contexts where tensions related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict run high. Falter's experience sheds light on the complex dynamics at play during such demonstrations, where identities and allegiances intersect in volatile ways. In the aftermath of the encounter, Falter expressed dismay over the Metropolitan Police's handling of the situation, decrying what he perceived as "no-go zones for Jews" in London. Despite reassurances of safety, particularly during events like the pro-Palestine march, Falter's encounter with law enforcement cast doubt on the efficacy of such promises. The implication that Jewish individuals should avoid certain areas of the city to prevent potential confrontations raises profound concerns about inclusivity and equal treatment under the law. The Campaign Against Antisemitism issued a statement detailing the circumstances leading up to the incident, emphasizing that Falter and his companions were not engaging in any political activity or provocation. Instead, they were merely exercising their right to navigate public spaces as Jewish individuals, a right that was seemingly curtailed by the perceived risk of unrest. The incident occurred against the backdrop of heightened tensions surrounding the Israel-Hamas conflict, with pro-Palestinian demonstrators rallying in London to call for a ceasefire and condemn arms sales to Israel by the UK government. The juxtaposition of these protests with Falter's encounter highlights the complexities of navigating political discourse and identity-based tensions in public spaces. In response to the incident, the Metropolitan Police acknowledged the concerns raised by the video and reiterated their commitment to ensuring the safety of all individuals in the capital. However, questions linger regarding the underlying factors that led to Falter's treatment and the broader implications for freedom of movement and expression in diverse and contentious environments. As discussions continue surrounding the incident, it serves as a stark reminder of the ongoing challenges faced by minority communities, including Jewish individuals, in navigating public spaces amidst heightened political tensions and social unrest. Moving forward, there is a pressing need for greater awareness, dialogue, and proactive measures to address discrimination and ensure the protection of all individuals' rights and freedoms, regardless of their identity or affiliation. 2024-04-20 Source 3 2 6
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Social Media said: The juxtaposition of these protests with Falter's encounter highlights the complexities of navigating political discourse and identity-based tensions in public spaces. There is nothing complex about it - nothing at all. The Met is scared to enforce the law. They have been entirely intimidated by the HAMAS supporters. They are cowardly, gutless, completely pathetic. To suggest that a man is likely to cause a breach of the peace for being "openly Jewish" is like something out of Monty Python's Flying Circus. 2 7 1 1 1 5 1
Popular Post Tug Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 The Jewish guy should show more sense to me the cop’s acted appropriately in snuffing out the fuse of the idiot trying to be a martyr that could have been a major incident 4 5 7 1 3 1
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 3 minutes ago, Tug said: The Jewish guy should show more sense to me the cop’s acted appropriately in snuffing out the fuse of the idiot trying to be a martyr that could have been a major incident The jewish guy certainly has freedom of choice... but to be called an idiot by you is indicative of your nature... pot-kettle. 8 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 Perhaps the question should have asked ‘what will the police do with the new powers in the recent changes to policing laws’ Before passing the laws. That said, had the officer not intervened and the ‘breach of the peace’ he was concerned over had occurred, we’d be reading about something a lot more disturbing than a bit of activist performative grandstanding. 1 1 5
Popular Post Tug Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 29 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: The jewish guy certainly has freedom of choice... but to be called an idiot by you is indicative of your nature... pot-kettle. Naaa that’s a stupid move on that guys part he could have been ripped to shreds by that crowd that’s not a (smart) move and the cop’s defused it without any one getting killed don’t be so emotional it makes you look girly 3 4 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Perhaps the question should have asked ‘what will the police do with the new powers in the recent changes to policing laws’ Before passing the laws. That said, had the officer not intervened and the ‘breach of the peace’ he was concerned over had occurred, we’d be reading about something a lot more disturbing than a bit of activist performative grandstanding. Nonsense. They could use that excuse to lock us in all in our homes. If they let us out we could cause trouble and that is more disturbing than we stay home watching BBC propaganda. The Met is openly pro palestine. Their own officers join in the chants. No surprise given the beliefs of Sadiq Khan. A cowardly, biased organisation. I bet you think they are doing a great job though. They are on your side. 7 3 1 2 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 If this had been a pro Israel or anti Hamas protest would the police also have told a Muslim identified by beard or dress to have left? I very much doubt it. 5 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Nonsense. They could use that excuse to lock us in all in our homes. If they let us out we could cause trouble and that is more disturbing than we stay home watching BBC propaganda. The Met is openly pro palestine. Their own officers join in the chants. No surprise given the beliefs of Sadiq Khan. A cowardly, biased organisation. I bet you think they are doing a great job though. They are on your side. I agree the Police have been handed too many powers, hence my opening statement on the Police Powers. The rest. Nah. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: If this had been a pro Israel or anti Hamas protest would the police also have told a Muslim identified by beard or dress to have left? I very much doubt it. Who knows. Let’s cook it up as a cause for grievance. 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The rest. Nah. Do you need me to post the video of the met officer joining in the pro Palestine chants again? I'm sure you've seen it. And no it is not an isolated incident. Just one that happened to be filmed. 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Do you need me to post the video of the met officer joining in the pro Palestine chants again? I'm sure you've seen it. And no it is not an isolated incident. Just one that happened to be filmed. There are 46,000 officers and staff in the Met. You’ve found one alleged bad apple. So all 46,000 are at fault. Save your video, this is a discussion forum. 2 2 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Who knows. Let’s cook it up as a cause for grievance. Or an obvious deflection from a very likely scenario 1 1 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: There are 46,000 officers and staff in the Met. You’ve found one alleged bad apple. So all 46,000 are at fault. Save your video, this is a discussion forum. Oh I see. You only want links to back up statements presented as fact when they are not inconvenient truths. It's not one bad apple. It's one example of many. The way police handle pro Palestine marches is ridiculous. They even came up with a new definition of Jihad to justify allowing crowds to scream for it. I really wonder why you defend it. Do you just enjoy defending the indefensible or are your feelings against, let's call them Israelis or Zionists, that strong? 7 1
Popular Post 300sd Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 I'm sure some supported the police in Nazi Germany also. Those police may have turned into the gestapo. If I were a Jewish person in London and many other places, I would be feeling very uncomfortable by these kinds of police actions, not to mention the ones who support it. The antisemitism raising it's ugly head around the world is warning shot over the bow. 3 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 Just now, JonnyF said: Oh I see. You only want links to back up statements presented as fact when they are not inconvenient truths. It's not one bad apple. It's one example of many. The way police handle pro Palestine marches is ridiculous. They even came up with a new definition of Jihad to justify allowing crowds to scream for it. I really wonder why you defend it. No. I’ve explained 1 in 46000. I don’t view videos posted in this discussion forum regardless of what side of any discussion they are on. What am I defending? 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Do you just enjoy defending the indefensible or are your feelings against, let's call them Israelis or Zionists, that strong? Back to your usual innuendo Jonny. Grow a set and say what you mean. 1 2
Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: No. I’ve explained 1 in 46000. I don’t view videos posted in this discussion forum regardless of what side of any discussion they are on. What am I defending? Back to your usual innuendo Jonny. Grow a set and say what you mean. So you avoided the videos in the OP entirely? 2
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, 300sd said: I'm sure some supported the police in Nazi Germany also. Those police may have turned into the gestapo. If I were a Jewish person in London and many other places, I would be feeling very uncomfortable by these kinds of police actions, not to mention the ones who support it. The antisemitism raising it's ugly head around the world is warning shot over the bow. I’m sure some supported the authoritarian laws suppressing freedom to protest and freedom of assembly that they were told would be used against at people they had been told to hate/fear. Then those same laws were used against themselves. That’s how authoritarianism works. Anyway, you get the first Godwin Gong of the day. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: So you avoided the videos in the OP entirely? Yep, don’t watch videos. I read the OP 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Yep, don’t watch videos. I read the OP Interesting that the whole OP and following discussion is based entirely on a vid clip that is about 0.51 seconds long but you didn't bother with the source 1 1 1
Popular Post proton Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 who is in charge of the Met police farce- the mayor mr Khan the Muslim - a supporter of this Palestinian fantasy. Hopefully he will be replaced at election time, but as London is an immigrant majority city that is unlikely 1 1 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Interesting that the whole OP and following discussion is based entirely on a vid clip that is about 2 mins long but you didn't bother with the source Why do I need to watch the video? I read the OP. Perhaps you’re looking for comment on the lighting, camera angle or framing. 1 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Why do I need to watch the video? I read the OP. Perhaps you’re looking for comment on the lighting, camera angle or framing. No, I wasn't looking for comments on the lighting, that's just a trolling comment and more deflection 1 4
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: No. I’ve explained 1 in 46000. I don’t view videos posted in this discussion forum regardless of what side of any discussion they are on. What am I defending? Back to your usual innuendo Jonny. Grow a set and say what you mean. You are defending the met police's pro Palestine policing. Because you are also pro Palestine. It's not complicated. I'd say what I mean but I wouldn't be posting for a while. Don't call for censorship of speech and then complain when it stops people saying exactly what they think. 1 1 3 2
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 20, 2024 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2024 45 minutes ago, Tug said: Naaa that’s a stupid move on that guys part he could have been ripped to shreds by that crowd that’s not a (smart) move and the cop’s defused it without any one getting killed don’t be so emotional it makes you look girly Its the people who would "rip other people to threads" who need to be arrested . Violent thugs need to be arrested , not any potential victims of that violence . Suggesting that people are "girly" for supporting the Jewish guy . Well, lets move on from that remark , considered to be rather sexist these days . One guy not afraid of 1000's of animals that would rip him to shreds , that's not "girly" behaviour 1 2 2 4
Ben Zioner Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, 300sd said: I'm sure some supported the police in Nazi Germany also. Those police may have turned into the gestapo. If I were a Jewish person in London and many other places, I would be feeling very uncomfortable by these kinds of police actions, not to mention the ones who support it. The antisemitism raising it's ugly head around the world is warning shot over the bow. Well if you can ban a mob of terrorists, arrest one innocent Jew. Great police work. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 Just now, JonnyF said: You are defending the met police's pro Palestine policing. Because you are also pro Palestine. It's not complicated. I'd say what I mean but I wouldn't be posting for a while. Don't call for censorship of speech and then complain when it stops people saying exactly what they think. No I’m not. No I’m not. If you won’t say what you mean then don’t engage in innuendo. 1
norfolkandchance Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 The police withdrew its first statement and then apologised in the second.statement. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 8 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: Well if you can ban a mob of terrorists, arrest one innocent Jew. Great police work. He wasn’t arrested. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its the people who would "rip other people to threads" who need to be arrested . Violent thugs need to be arrested , not any potential victims of that violence . Suggesting that people are "girly" for supporting the Jewish guy . Well, lets move on from that remark , considered to be rather sexist these days . One guy not afraid of 1000's of animals that would rip him to shreds , that's not "girly" behaviour ‘Animals’?
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