Concern Over Spread Of Covid-19, Nearly 10,000 Cases A Day

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AN EMINENT professor is concerned about the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand as he estimates that currently there are nearly 10,000 cases a day, Amarin TV said this afternoon (Apr. 22).

 

Assoc. Prof. Teera Worathanarat of Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine said in a Facebook post that last week, Apr. 14-20, 2024, 1,004 Covid patients were hospitalised, three died, 292 had pneumonia and 101 were intubated.

 

It was found that patients requiring hospital treatment increased by 18.26%, with this having risen continuously for six weeks in a row.

 

The number of pneumonia cases  increased by 20.66% while intubation rose by 17.44%.

 

by TNR Staff

A representative image of Covid-19. Credit: Hindustan Times

 

Full story: THAI NEWSROOM 2024-04-23

 

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[bradiston]

Umm, 1004=3+292+101=10,000?

[Madgee]

6 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Umm, 1004=3+292+101=10,000?

I suggest you read the article again. 10,000 covid cases a day. 1004 we're hospitalised etc. Not all the cases reported ended up in hospital. 

 

TBH, many reported covid cases in my area at the moment, it's disrupting the pool night! 

[SingAPorn]

Masks need to be compulsory in public spaces like the BTS, taxi or bar.

[daveAustin]

Songkran effect? 

[thesetat]

I confused about this data. The Thai government hospital near me directly told us that they do not have or give Covid tests anymore and if I wanted one for checking my child's sickness then I would need to go to 7/11 and buy one. This was when my son became catatonic with high fever onset suddenly. So where are they getting these test results from? 

 

If these figures are correct. Thailand only has itself to blame for allowing free entry of Chinese into Thailand. The Chinese have been deleting all Covid data and stopped checking for Covid for any and all sicknesses even though patient numbers are still filling the hospitals with sick and people are still dying with Covid-like symptoms. 

I have several friends in different parts of China who are Chinese teachers there that tell me they are still closing classrooms and using Covid measures when more than one student gets sick. But they are not allowed to talk about the possibility of it being Covid. 

[realfunster]

I just tested COVID+ at the start of the Songkran weekend. Lousy timing.

Splitting headache, lethargy and muscle aches put me on the sofa for 2 days and a sniffle for a further 2 days. Like with the ‘flu back in the home country, I kept a low profile for a few days to avoid spreading it around. 
 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

AN EMINENT professor is concerned about the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand as he estimates that currently there are nearly 10,000 cases a day, Amarin TV said this afternoon (Apr. 22).

 

Assoc. Prof. Teera Worathanarat of Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine said in a Facebook post that last week, Apr. 14-20, 2024, 1,004 Covid patients were hospitalised, three died, 292 had pneumonia and 101 were intubated.

Sorry, is the professor really raising concerns on 3 deaths last week = 156 deaths a year.

Sad for those involved but I would have thought completely immaterial from a public health statistics perspective?

[Gottfrid]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

AN EMINENT professor is concerned about the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand

An Eminent professor "that wants 15 minutes of fame" is concerned about the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand

That´s it! Now it sounds much better.

Edited April 23 by Gottfrid

[Paul Henry]

What are the stats on vaccinated v non vaccinated of the people infected?

[freeworld]

1 hour ago, SingAPorn said:

Masks need to be compulsory in public spaces like the BTS, taxi or bar.

Yes.

[BE88]

My god save me from this doctor.

[dinsdale]

Concern Over Spread Of Covid-19, Nearly 10,000 Cases A Day

This headline is based on the estimates of one person but it doesn't suprise me. Omicron is highly transmissable but is also non-severe for the vast majority. The interesting bit is the hospitalisation, pneumonia and intubation numbers. I wonder how many of the covid numbers are incidental with the reason that people are presenting to hospital is pollution related. I think it's also reasonable to postulate that those in need of intubation is pneumonia related rather than covid related. The death rate is very, very, very low and I'm guessing they were old with comorbidities.

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Time to get those K or N95 face masks.

[clokwise]

I recently tried to get a Pfizer/Moderna COVID booster as it's been a year since the previous one. Was told it's not allowed to get it at a private hospital, must go to a public hospital. Went to the public hospital and was told they don't do COVID boosters anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[superal]

1 hour ago, Paul Henry said:

What are the stats on vaccinated v non vaccinated of the people infected?

Also , of the infected people , how many were wearing a mask ? I bet it is a high % . These medical masks are the most commonly worn mask . They give the wearer a false sense of security . They do not stop pathogens , in fact they stop very little as the masks have side cheek gaps and are never sealed . However if the wearer has a cough or sneeze the water droplets will be contained but I have witnessed people pulling down their mask to cough or sneeze . Often the masks are dirty , having been kept in a trouser pocket of cluttered hand bag . Often the wearer has the mask over their mouth only or even under their chin . Medical masks are a waste of time , only a n95 mask can help if changed daily . but they are not comfortable to wear for long periods .

[dinsdale]

54 minutes ago, clokwise said:

I recently tried to get a Pfizer/Moderna COVID booster as it's been a year since the previous one. Was told it's not allowed to get it at a private hospital, must go to a public hospital. Went to the public hospital and was told they don't do COVID boosters anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Lucky for you IMHO unless you are very old and/or have severe comorbidities.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Paul Henry said:

What are the stats on vaccinated v non vaccinated of the people infected?

Covid vaccines do not stop infection and do not stop the spread.

[superal]

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Covid vaccines do not stop infection and do not stop the spread.

True but they can or may lessen the potency of the infection which will enable the infected person to recover in a short period of time and without some possible nasty long term effects . No covid vaccine claims 100% immunity .

[dinsdale]

14 minutes ago, superal said:

True but they can or may lessen the potency of the infection which will enable the infected person to recover in a short period of time and without some possible nasty long term effects . No covid vaccine claims 100% immunity .

Almost everyone now would have some natural immunity although the nature of Omicron variants is to breakthough said immunity. 10,000 infections may well be an underestimate as Omicron can be very mild or even unsymptomatic and hence go unnoticed. Each time you get it your immunity is upgraded and upgraded naturally. 

Edited April 23 by dinsdale

[retarius]

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. 

 

No more vaccine for me. 

 

I'm not concerned because I don't believe it anyway. 

[john donson]

come on scared people, time to get your combo shot,  flu/covid

 

you know it protects not only you but everyone you love

 

wait, no, it does not, nothing at all now, science finally start to find out after 3 years

 

 

[BangkokHank]

4 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

What are the stats on vaccinated v non vaccinated of the people infected?

 

This is the obvious question, but we won't get an official answer - because the answer is also obvious.

[TDCNINJA]

6 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Masks need to be compulsory in public spaces like the BTS, taxi or bar.

I'm not wearing YOUR f'ing masks (that didn't work), I'm not taking YOUR f'ing vaccines (that didn't work), and I'm not going to social distance (that didn't work). 

 

Send me to jail, put me in front of a firing squad. I don;'t care.  WE are not going to play YOUR game anymore and WE ARE NOT going to be controlled.  

[JGV]

Is thi so called expert wanting everyone to get vaccinated to help with his cash flow

Evidence needed not just a guy stating his opinion

[NativeBob]

Chula med faculty? Funny!

mainly "cardiologists" with silver spoon up their <deleted>

Been there saw them

[stats]

4 hours ago, clokwise said:

I recently tried to get a Pfizer/Moderna COVID booster as it's been a year since the previous one. Was told it's not allowed to get it at a private hospital, must go to a public hospital. Went to the public hospital and was told they don't do COVID boosters anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

See below:

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, bradiston said:

Umm, 1004=3+292+101=10,000?

 

You're getting confused about the different numbers and what they represent.

 

The professor's 10,000 estimate is that of COVID cases/infections among the population. He's estimating the daily count of new infections based on the actual main hard number they have -- COVID-confirmed hospitalizations.

 

The 1,000+ number is new and confirmed COVID hospitalizations from the past week. The 3 count is COVID confirmed deaths from the past week. The other two numbers are the current counts of COVID hospitalized patients in serious condition with pneumonia type symptoms, and a separate tally for those requiring intubation.

 

The  Thai government last year stopped publicly reporting mere COVID infection statistics (cases), as it rolled back COVID testing and transitioned out of what previously had been its public health "emergency" mode for COVID.

 

So I think his point in offering the 10,000 COVID infections per day estimate is to make the public aware that COVID is still circulating pretty broadly in Thailand, even if only a much smaller portion of those (1,000+ per week right now) end up requiring hospitalization.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Songkran effect? 

 

The weekly numbers of COVID hospitalizations have been rising steadily since mid-March, long before Song Kran, and have now doubled since that time, going from about 500 then to now 1,000 per week.

 

The same kind of upswing occurred last spring in Thailand as well, and weekly COVID hospitalizations at their peak last spring exceeded 3,000. The spring upswing last year didn't subside until mid-July.

 

As OP report recounts:

 

"It was found that patients requiring hospital treatment increased by 18.26% [for the most recent week], with this having risen continuously for six weeks in a row."

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I think it's also reasonable to postulate that those in need of intubation is pneumonia related rather than covid related.

 

The only statistics being reported by the MoPH here for serious condition/pneumonia symptoms and those requiring intubation are hospitalized patients with confirmed positive tests for COVID.  Pneumonia type symptoms can be a standard manifestation of COVID.

 

The MoPH is classifying them as COVID cases, even if you aren't.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, superal said:

 Medical masks are a waste of time , only a n95 mask can help if changed daily . but they are not comfortable to wear for long periods .

 

Simple so-called medical masks have some benefit in that they tend to capture/reduce  the particles exhaled by the wearer.... So they have some benefit in reducing the risk to people around the wearer.

 

But as you say, they don't have as much value in protecting the wearing from inhaling COVID particles that may be in the air, because they don't form a seal.

 

For that purpose, N95 and similar masks are the way to go, because if worn properly, they provide an airtight seal in the face that only allows filtered air in and out.

 

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"It’s true that masks work best when everyone around you is wearing one. That’s because when an infected person wears a mask, a large percentage of the infectious particles they exhale are trapped, stopping viral spread at the source. And when fewer viral particles are floating around the room, the masks others are wearing are likely to block those particles that have escaped.

 

But there is also plenty of evidence showing that masks protect the wearer, even when others around them are mask-free.

 

The amount of protection depends on the quality of the mask and how well it fits. Health experts recommend using an N95, KN95 or KF94 to protect yourself against the Omicron subvariant BA.2, which is now the dominant version of the coronavirus and is far more infectious than previous strains."

 

New York Times

https://archive.ph/jIsm5

 

Edited April 23 by TallGuyJohninBKK