Electric Scooter Rentals Surface in Pattaya, Prompting Legal Issues

[CartagenaWarlock]

Are there no license plates on these scooters? If there are, then it is already registered. If it's less than 500W then there is no requirement for registration or a driving license. Of course, if there is an accident, you have take the responsibility for all fiances. 

[CartagenaWarlock]

Are there no license plates on these scooters? If there are, then it is already registered. If it's less than 500W then there is no requirement for registration or a driving license. Of course, if there is an accident, you have to take responsibility.

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Are there really any members who care anything about, or even bother to look at, the emojis that their posts receive?  If there are, why?

Everyday, I see you reading most members comments and replying to different members. 

 

Without question, you read the many comments about members discussing the confused emoji's and the recent article regarding the infant that died after being hit by a car in a housing estate.

 

One member commented that he was astonished by a confused emoji on a member replying with RIP for the boy. 

 

Are you just being a nuisance with your comment? 

Surely you must read the many, many negative comments regarding the confused emoji's. 

 

 

 

We have some strange members here mate, lots of weirdos that use their confused emoji's to antagonize, etc. 

 

 

Edited May 19 by SAFETY FIRST

[Skipalongcassidy]

10 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Everyday, I see you reading most members comments and replying to different members. 

 

Surely you read the recent article regarding the infant that died after being hit by a car in a housing estate.

 

One member commented that he was astonished by a confused emoji on a member replying with RIP for the boy. 

 

Are you just being a nuisance with your comment? 

Surely you must read the many, many negative comments regarding the confused emoji's. 

 

 

 

We have some strange members here mate, lots of weirdos that use their confused emoji's to antagonize, etc. 

 

 

Actually there are allot of confused individuals on here... don't read into it something more... first of all they do not read or follow the OP... they read the headline and then post... typically when it is a political OP if facts are presented that do not fall into their party platform they post as confused.

[KhunLA]

10 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Are there no license plates on these scooters? If there are, then it is already registered. If it's less than 500W then there is no requirement for registration or a driving license. Of course, if there is an accident, you have to take responsibility.

That's false, as any motorized vehicle has to be registered, and you have to have a license to operate it.

[jacko45k]

12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I get an impression of 'they don't' these days/ 

[PremiumLane]

On 5/17/2024 at 5:11 PM, KhunLA said:

e-bike, as in bicycle, which would be illegal.

 

Why would an e-bicycle be illegal? 

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

 

Why would an e-bicycle be illegal? 

Already posted, and answered 2X

[webfact]

Pattaya Suspends Electric Scooter Rentals Amid Legal Concerns

 

Picture courtesy: The Pattaya News

 

An electric scooter rental company in Pattaya has been instructed by city officials and police to temporarily halt operations amid concerns about compliance with Thai traffic laws.

 

On October 10th, Pattaya authorities visited Gogo Transtech Co., Ltd., following complaints from residents questioning the legality of the rental electric scooters on public roads. The scooters, blue in colour, have sparked worries about safety and legal requirements.

 

During the inspection, officials found numerous scooters parked at the firm’s headquarters. Ms. Nee, an administrative officer for Gogo Transtech, stated that the scooters are electric bicycles with a max speed of 25 kilometres per hour.

 

She noted their eco-friendliness and safety features, such as shutting down if taken outside designated areas. Ms. Nee also elaborated on the rental model: 3 baht for the first 5 kilometres, then 5 baht per additional kilometre, accessed via a mobile app. The scooters have been popular in Bangkok and Chiang Mai.

 

 

Concerns primarily focus on whether the scooters meet legal standards for operation on public roads. Pattaya officials, along with tourist and immigration police, convened a meeting to discuss these issues. Representatives from various agencies, including Banglamung District and Pattaya City, participated.

 

The meeting centred on the legalities of the business registration and rental operations. Authorities reached out to the Banglamung District Transportation Office for clarity on licensing, although the classification of these vehicles under Thai law remains uncertain.

 

Gogo Transtech’s owner, Mr. Chan Pusam, acknowledged the potential legal challenges and expressed a willingness to adapt to regulations. He emphasised that the company has been operating legally for two years in Thailand and provides accident insurance up to 500,000 baht for riders.

 

Pattaya officials decided to suspend Gogo Transtech’s services pending further clarification. A subsequent meeting is scheduled for October 13th to address the outstanding legal concerns.

 

-- 2024-05-20

 

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[JoePai]

These look like scooters - a Bicycle needs pedals for propulsion 

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

She noted their eco-friendliness

They will end up in landfill. 

 

Not very eco-friendly 

 

These vehicles are a menace on our roads, underpowed and unroadworthy. 

 

The users will be unlicensed tourists, getting hurt due to their Incompetence. 

 

I can see many more gofundme pages. 

 

Edited May 20 by SAFETY FIRST

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

They will end up in landfill. 

 

Not very eco-friendly 

 

Be nice if they were available to buy on the cheap, once they shut down.  Folks out in the villages could use.  Wouldn't mind having one myself to toy with, chop shop into something something different.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Be nice if they were available to buy on the cheap, once they shut down.  Folks out in the villages could use.  Wouldn't mind having one myself to toy with, chop shop into something something different.

I agree, good idea for those of us that are competent but sadly I don't think that we'll get the option to pick one up cheap. 

 

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The users will be unlicensed tourists, getting hurt due to their Incompetence. 

But that already happens all over Thailand with ordinary scooters and motorbikes.

[SAFETY FIRST]

44 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

But that already happens all over Thailand with ordinary scooters and motorbikes.

Agree, we don't need more of that behaviour. 

These little scooters, cheap, easy accessible, will only allow more injuries. 

 

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Agree, we don't need more of that behaviour. 

These little scooters, cheap, easy accessible, will only allow more injuries. 

Probably less, since they are not very powerful, and top end speed is probably 25-40kph.

[SAFETY FIRST]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Probably less, since they are not very powerful, and top end speed is probably 25-40kph.

The local radio station here in Pattaya said maximum speed 25km/h. 

 

In the wrong hands they are Accidents waiting to happen. 

 

Sadly, road users get very aggressive sitting behind slow vehicles. 

 

[KhunLA]

17 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The local radio station here in Pattaya said maximum speed 25km/h. 

 

In the wrong hands they are Accidents waiting to happen. 

 

Sadly, road users get very aggressive sitting behind slow vehicles. 

 

So is bicycle in the wrong hands.   Aggressive at tops, 25kph.

 

Surely you're not serious.  Next time you're in your noisy, vibrating, smelly exhaust belching diesel truck, do 25kph for that reality check.   

 

Does make you wonder how the death rate here is so high, when village speed limits are 30, and most city & towns is 60 kph.

 

SPEED KILLS ... no worries on GOGO though, unless not wearing a helmet and take a bad bounce.

Edited May 20 by KhunLA

[SAFETY FIRST]

42 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

So is bicycle in the wrong hands.   Aggressive at tops, 25kph.

 

Surely you're not serious.  Next time you're in your noisy, vibrating, smelly exhaust belching diesel truck, do 25kph for that reality check.   

 

Does make you wonder how the death rate here is so high, when village speed limits are 30, and most city & towns is 60 kph.

 

SPEED KILLS ... no worries on GOGO though, unless not wearing a helmet and take a bad bounce.

These bikes will be rented to tourists, they will ride them on the road causing hazards to other road users. 

 

[biggles45]

'. A subsequent meeting is scheduled for October 13th to address the outstanding legal concerns.' 

 

That's a long time for the business owner to be left on hold

[biggles45]

Rental shops in Pattaya have been renting bikes, many capable of 160kph speeds, to unqualified riders for years. No action by the police or authorities. 

Suddenly 25kph scooters are a danger!!, Get real people, they haven't paid off the right people. 

[Purdey]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

the company has been operating legally for two years in Thailand

How is this possible if the police don't agree?

[ignore it]

Flash sale on nearly new electric scooter bikes. Blue only. See and make offers at Duck Square, S. Pattaya

[treetops]

7 hours ago, biggles45 said:

'. A subsequent meeting is scheduled for October 13th to address the outstanding legal concerns.' 

 

That's a long time for the business owner to be left on hold

 

Further up the article it says the authorities visited the company on October 10th.  The actual dates should have been May 17th and May 20th and can be seen in the original report here:

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2024/05/19/update-pattaya-electric-scooter-rental-company-instructed-by-city-officials-to-temporarily-halt-business/

Edited May 20 by treetops

[treetops]

On 5/19/2024 at 12:06 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

"..a different (inaccurate) picture used".

 The photo must be why the OP specifically stated..."File photo for reference only".

 

No, they could have used the TPN photo as they subsequently did in the follow up report and referenced it accordingly.

[jacko45k]

21 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Be nice if they were available to buy on the cheap, once they shut down.  Folks out in the villages could use.  Wouldn't mind having one myself to toy with, chop shop into something something different.

I often drive the truck into town and park somewhere easy to get to and away from.... a little ride about when there to get around for a few hours would be useful. 

[CartagenaWarlock]

On 5/19/2024 at 5:33 PM, KhunLA said:

That's false, as any motorized vehicle has to be registered, and you have to have a license to operate it.

Do you have any link to prove it. I don't have a link to prove otherwise, but I have this Pattaya News legal corner article that validates my claim that motorized scooters are forbidden on public roads if power output is more than 500W. 

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Do you have any link to prove it. I don't have a link to prove otherwise, but I have this Pattaya News legal corner article that validates my claim that motorized scooters are forbidden on public roads if power output is more than 500W. 

Already posted link ... if it has 2 or 3 wheels, and motorized, it's a motorcycle and need registration.

 

Size of motor is irrelevant.  Read the motor vehicle code, available online.  Or unofficial translation here.

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, treetops said:

On 5/19/2024 at 6:06 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

"..a different (inaccurate) picture used".

 The photo must be why the OP specifically stated..."File photo for reference only".

 

No, they could have used the TPN photo as they subsequently did in the follow up report and referenced it accordingly.

But they didn't and that is why they pointed out that it was a stock photo!

[brianthainess]

On 5/19/2024 at 3:59 PM, PoorSucker said:

Hmmm, how many cc is it when it's electric 

Watt say you ?