Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[tgw]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

He's next door boys.

 

 

 

Those countries aiding and abetting a criminal sought by international arrest warrant ...

[transam]

An excellent interview with a historian, who thinks exactly the same as me...

The 'Red' members on here should not watch it, too complicated for you.....🥴

 

 

[transam]

Putin doing the rounds with his Commy friends, and some folk on here don't think he's a Commy................🤣

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Did Lloyd Austin ring you up to tell you that? Even if he did, who knows what the next Secretary of Defence (Offence rather) would do?

 

But that’s not really the point. It doesn’t matter what the US plans to do, it’s what Russia thinks they will do. Forget nukes. Even long range missiles constitute a threat. And don’t for a moment think that it wouldn’t have happened if Ukraine had joined NATO.

You are off in la-la land. The US has no military need to install missiles in Ukraine.

 

Ukraine already has its own long range missiles. Prepare for your Russian friends to suffer.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

No. The US is the undisputed champion of the world when it comes to hubris, arrogance and imperialism. To deny that makes you totally non-credible, not that it matters on an anonymous internet forum.

What does that matter in this topic?

 

Yes, we know you hate the US.

 

Who do you want to win the election in the US in November?

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/17/2024 at 8:05 PM, BigBruv said:

Ukraine v Romania has just kicked off at Euro 2024 Football Tournament in Munich.

Tens of thousands of male Ukraine supporters there.

 

With Ukraine at war, seems a bit odd to have so many of your fighting age males going on holiday to Germany to watch football.

 

Does it seem odd to anyone else or am I missing something?

Yes, you're missing something - evidence that any of these "male Ukraine supporters" travelled from Ukraine to attend the match. Or that they were all Ukrainian nationals anyway.

 

In case you weren't aware of it, a lot of people have a lot of sympathy for Ukraine and that translates to them supporting their football team when they're playing.

 

Although as a previous poster pointed out, there were around two million Ukrainians in Germany well before the Euro 2024 tournament even started.

 

So even if they were all Ukrainian males (which is not evident) there's no reason to think they travelled from Ukraine to be there.

[beautifulthailand99]

42 minutes ago, transam said:

An excellent interview with a historian, who thinks exactly the same as me...

The 'Red' members on here should not watch it, too complicated for you.....🥴

 

 

 

Naah another  one who likes the sound of her own voice and Pax Americana. Next !

 

For Applebaum, the main significance of Iraq seems to be that it drew the US and Polish governments closer together. Whatever impact it had on Iraqis themselves, on traumatized veterans returning home, and on an entire generation’s willingness to trust the very Atlanticist project to which she remains committed escapes her notice. So does the propagandistic disinformation campaign that the Bush and Blair governments deployed to whip up support for the war—essentially a conspiracy theory, and one significantly advanced by Applebaum’s current social circle.

 

Both in Twilight of Democracy and in her recent interviews and tweets, Applebaum has insisted that the authoritarian temptation exists on both the left and the right, even if right-wing authoritarianism is the more immediate threat. That’s true to an extent, and it’s understandable that someone who has studied Stalin’s reign of terror in such detail would say so. But it’s also a dodge. Today’s rising leftists in the United States and the United Kingdom, by and large, aren’t calling for a return to Stalinism but for a social democratic model that would seek to repair the enormous human damage done by decades of the untrammeled neoliberalism that Applebaum and her friends have consistently championed.

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/anne-applebaum-twilight-democracy/

Edited June 20 by beautifulthailand99

[jvs]

Operation;"Clear Sky"

Those F-16s are going not going to have to worry about russian air defense!

There are only a few left and where to place them?

Protect putins Kremlin and his palaces or send more to Crimea?

No not "London's bridge is falling down"

It will be another one!

Lets play a new song,putin's bridge is falling down!

All together now!

There will be a few sad faces i guess.

 

[Gweiloman]

59 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are off in la-la land. The US has no military need to install missiles in Ukraine.

 

Ukraine already has its own long range missiles. Prepare for your Russian friends to suffer.

You mean Ukraine has long range missiles provided by some NATO countries.

 

Question is, do they have the men to operate it?

 

Since some of you guys are so strongly devoted to Ukraine’s freedom, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is? As for me, I had previously mentioned that I don’t really care who wins or loses. In any case, at my age, I doubt any army would want me lol.

 

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

[tgw]

24 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Since some of you guys are so strongly devoted to Ukraine’s freedom, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is?

 

Since you are so strongly devoted to helping Ruzzia kill and oppress other countries, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is?

It looks more and more like Ruzzia is going to lose in this war, and Ruzzia needs your help.

Edited June 20 by tgw

[Gweiloman]

4 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

Since you are so strongly devoted to helping Ruzzia kill and oppress other countries, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is?

It looks more and more like Ruzzia is going to lose in this war, and Ruzzia needs your help.

Like I said, I don’t really care who wins or loses. I’m not so fanatical as you, putting up the Ukrainian colours as your avatar or whatever it’s called. 
 

Whatever will you do if your beloved Ukraine defies your hopes and loses instead? To be on the safe side, you should go to the frontline to help as well. According to dandyman, it’s only Russians that are dying so you should be safe.

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Like I said, I don’t really care who wins or loses. I’m not so fanatical as you, putting up the Ukrainian colours as your avatar or whatever it’s called. 
 

Whatever will you do if your beloved Ukraine defies your hopes and loses instead? To be on the safe side, you should go to the frontline to help as well. According to dandyman, it’s only Russians that are dying so you should be safe.

Two years in, nobody is still sitting on the fence, you are fooling no one

[rabas]

18 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

To be on the safe side, you should go to the frontline to help as well.

 

We are much more useful right here fighting Russian propaganda.  

[Rimmer]

A couple of off topic posts removed

[tgw]

2 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

but really a dozen aging expat blokrs on a Thai expat website

  things are not always what they seem

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/19/2024 at 8:01 PM, Gweiloman said:

Which means that 68% are pushing Ukrainian propaganda. Goodby then.

No, it absolutely does not mean that. Do you really think there are only two possible sources of propaganda in the world?

 

That's a ridiculous proposition.

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, tgw said:

  things are not always what they seem

That's my best laugh of the day intentional or not and I thank you for that !

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Putin doing the rounds with his Commy friends, and some folk on here don't think he's a Commy................🤣

It's been pointed out by better people than me that he's a kleptocrat not a communist but still you persist.Words matter. I may or may nor be a communist  and I'm certainly a pacifist socialist and Putin and his mates are not in my club.

 

 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

On 6/19/2024 at 2:35 PM, Danderman123 said:

Wow, you seem unaware of reality.

 

The pocket where the soldiers are trapped is behind Ukrainian lines.

You may be referring to the David Axe's report for Forbes who is a notorious propagandist. However brave Ukrainian media is prepared to report the truth - possibly becuase they care about their people rather than spinning news for clicks.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/18/in-russia-vehicles-are-expensive-but-soldiers-are-cheap-and-thats-why-the-battle-for-vovchansk-is-becoming-an-infantry-massacre/

 

There are 3 British clowns who report nonsense as truth , David Axe, Hamish de Bretton Gordon and Colonel Richard Kemp. You can safely put them in the bin marked "Scott Ritter".

 

Dozens of Russian troops have been cut off at a building site in the city of Vovchansk, Kharkiv Oblast, not hundreds as previously reported by Forbes, Yurii Povkh, spokesman for the Kharkiv Operational Strategic Group (OSG), has said.

Source: Povkh in a comment to Ukrainska Pravda

Quote: "I would like to point out that, first of all, the Russians do not operate with the numbers of personnel mentioned in this report. The figure of 400 people [reported by Forbes] is impossible to confirm because it does not exist."

 

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/19/7461556/

Edited June 20 by beautifulthailand99

[tgw]

6 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

That's my best laugh of the day intentional or not and I thank you for that !

 

[jvs]

Begging for help!

 

[jvs]

What is he saying?

Just listen,some one seems to know something.

 

[Danderman123]

14 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

You mean Ukraine has long range missiles provided by some NATO countries.

 

Question is, do they have the men to operate it?

 

 

No, I mean there are Ukrainian long range missiles.

 

I have seen them.

[Bkk Brian]

Welcome onboard SK!

 

South Korea Considers Arming Ukraine in Response to North Korea-Russia Pact

SEOUL — South Korea said Thursday that it would consider sending arms to Ukraine, a major policy change that was suggested after Russia and North Korea rattled the region and beyond by signing a pact to come to each other’s defense in the event of war.

The comments from a senior presidential official came hours after North Korea’s state media released the details of the agreement, which observers said could mark the strongest connection between Moscow and Pyongyang since the end of the Cold War. It comes at a time when Russia faces growing isolation over the war in Ukraine and both countries face escalating standoffs with the West.

https://time.com/6990464/south-korea-arms-ukraine-north-russia-pact/

[Mavideol]

Russia-Ukraine war – live: F-16 fighter jets expected on the battlefield this summer as Putin lands in Vietnam

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-latest-putin-035046932.html

 

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, tgw said:

 

Those countries aiding and abetting a criminal sought by international arrest warrant ...

Vietnam is playing with fire... in one hand they want US companies to invest, on the other hand they receive a mad man dictator, they can't have it both ways. They are trying to replace China as an industrial hub and open arms received Putin

[jvs]

4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Vietnam is playing with fire... in one hand they want US companies to invest, on the other hand they receive a mad man dictator, they can't have it both ways. They are trying to replace China as an industrial hub and open arms received Putin

It is even more complicated,Vietnam needs US support to stop China from invading their

seas.

I don't think they will give putin any kind of real support.

Vietnam is really US orientated right now.

 

[beautifulthailand99]

3 hours ago, jvs said:

What is he saying?

Just listen,some one seems to know something.

 

 

[rabas]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

Another 1 year old less meaningful video for the Latest Developments thread, eh? 

 

Youtube's top of page warning  -->

 

 

Edited June 21 by rabas