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Are mobile phones with internet access standard issue for Nth Korean soldiers? I phones no doubt.

There's a lot of 'noise' about DPRK some of it a concerted attempt to promote escalation from the west which sadly for Ukraine is falling on deaf ears as the Ukrainian Ambo to the UN spoke about in my post upthread. This looks like one of those "fun" articles designed to seed the media landscape. Just my "hot" asian babes take.

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I have been to Ukraine several times on business and I have family there. I have also been to Russia on business. I would not be able to count how many times.   Russia blatantly vi

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As long as commentators in the west preface with 'if Putin wins', they disclose how much they still believe in their own delusional propaganda. There are only two possible scenarios - Russia wins and

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EU countries will do it, regardless of Trump. Whether it's wasteful or not is not important. The expenditure will simply be necessary if Putin wins. Several countries are already thinking about r

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4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Ukraine is forced to confront a brutal Trump reality that it hoped would never happen

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-forced-confront-brutal-trump-050147990.html

The Putin apologists and supporters club will be in their element with the news of a Trump leadership after his promise to end the conflict in 24 hours. They revel in the though of Ukraine being subjected to further Russian occupation despite the war crimes carried out to get those gains.

 

Without doubt its a setback for Ukraine but its pointless speculating until Trump comes up with a solid plan that is agreed and implemented, until then all articles are pure speculation.

 

Currently "Trump hasn’t approved a specific peace plan"

 

“Anyone—no matter how senior in Trump’s circle—who claims to have a different view or more detailed window into his plans on Ukraine simply doesn’t know what he or she is talking about or doesn’t understand that he makes his own calls on national-security issues, many times in the moment, particularly on an issue as central as this,” a former Trump National Security Council aide said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-presidency-ukraine-russia-war-plans-008655c0

https://archive.ph/CbFZS

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Maybe worth watching out for. These North Korean soldiers have red tape on the butts of their guns. Both Russian and Ukrainian troops use identifying coloured tape - but it's usually on their uniforms & helmets.

 

 

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The Putin apologists and supporters club will be in their element with the news of a Trump leadership after his promise to end the conflict in 24 hours. They revel in the though of Ukraine being subjected to further Russian occupation despite the war crimes carried out to get those gains.

 

Without doubt its a setback for Ukraine but its pointless speculating until Trump comes up with a solid plan that is agreed and implemented, until then all articles are pure speculation.

 

Currently "Trump hasn’t approved a specific peace plan"

 

“Anyone—no matter how senior in Trump’s circle—who claims to have a different view or more detailed window into his plans on Ukraine simply doesn’t know what he or she is talking about or doesn’t understand that he makes his own calls on national-security issues, many times in the moment, particularly on an issue as central as this,” a former Trump National Security Council aide said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-presidency-ukraine-russia-war-plans-008655c0

https://archive.ph/CbFZS

At this stage with no hope of victory a messy peace is preferable to a continuing dirty war with a disproportinate loss of life on the Ukrainian side. Let's hope that Trump follows through and gets that deal across the line and soon. Europe is very nearly bust and with the engine of Germany stalling there's no money left to make up a US shortfall should it happen nor the weapons or manpower either. This is the only glimmer of hope in a Trump victory - the rest is a disaster for the world.

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Trump Will Test European Solidarity on NATO, Ukraine and Trade
Another Trump term could spur Europe’s efforts to stand on its own, but it is far from clear its leaders will seize the moment this time.

 

https://archive.ph/5PaAI#selection-5239.0-5243.137

 

Trump changes everything - this war started under Biden and will end under Trump. Whether Ukraine will survive as a viable state is a moot point. Blinken and Nuland along with Putin have blood on their hands.

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Russia steps up mass drone attacks in bid to overwhelm Ukrainian defenses - CNN

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/russia-ukraine-kyiv-drone-record-intl/index.html

 

 As well as drastically increasing the number of strikes, Russia has begun to fire decoy drones without warheads to overwhelm Ukraine’s air defenses. Decoy drones carry a “3D-printed ball wrapped in foil” to imitate the warhead of an Iran-made Shahed-136 drone, Yuriy Ihnat, a spokesperson for Ukraine’s air defenses, told CNN.

These cheaper drones confuse Ukraine’s air defenses, which may shoot down decoy drones instead of ones carrying a lethal warhead. Decoy drones now account for as many as half of all Russian drones fired at Ukraine, Ihnat said.

The Russian army has been pounding Ukraine throughout the war, but the moves signal a change in Moscow’s tactics following Donald Trump’s reelection as president, who could pull support. Meanwhile, Ukraine is under fierce pressure on the eastern frontlines, where its army chief has warned his forces are facing “one of the most powerful Russian offensives” since the start of the war.

 

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Stand by for the West’s betrayal of Ukraine - There is little sign Europe is ready to step up and arm Kyiv if Trump follows through on the logic of his campaign vow - THE TIMES

 

https://archive.ph/C9iVF

 

 When it became clear earlier this year that Trump would definitely secure his party’s nomination, there was some flirting in Europe with the thought that the continent must step up and take over the funding and support for Ukraine when the US abandons Zelensky and his people. Those of us who suggested this did so on the basis it should surely be feasible for a continent of 500 million souls, with an economy ten times the size of Russia’s, to find the money and also to strengthen the European pillar of Nato. Beyond some statements since Trump’s victory about European solidarity, there is no meaningful sign of it.

I hope I am wrong. I hope Europe, including the UK, steps up properly for Ukraine and commits to spending at least 3 per cent of GDP on rebuilding our own defences. As it stands, what seems more likely is that we will wring our hands while Ukraine is forced to endure ritual humiliation.

 

My note - from Gemini

 

The UK is currently spending approximately 2.3% of its GDP on defense. There is a commitment to increase this to 2.5% of GDP by 2030.

 

To calculate 0.7% of the UK's GDP, we need the current GDP figure.

According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the UK's GDP in 2023 was £2,720 billion.  

To find 0.7% of this amount, we can multiply the GDP by 0.7% (or 0.007):

£2,720 billion * 0.007 = £19.04 billion

Therefore, 0.7% of the UK's GDP in 2023 was approximately £19.04 billion.

 

That would be nearly £700 more per household per year.

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2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Trump Will Test European Solidarity on NATO, Ukraine and Trade
Another Trump term could spur Europe’s efforts to stand on its own, but it is far from clear its leaders will seize the moment this time.

 

https://archive.ph/5PaAI#selection-5239.0-5243.137

 

Trump changes everything - this war started under Biden and will end under Trump. Whether Ukraine will survive as a viable state is a moot point. Blinken and Nuland along with Putin have blood on their hands.

Perhaps the best thing to come out of Trump's victory is that we won't have to look at that moron Blinken running around the M E achieving nothing but lies and BS after January 20th.

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12 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Stand by for the West’s betrayal of Ukraine - There is little sign Europe is ready to step up and arm Kyiv if Trump follows through on the logic of his campaign vow - THE TIMES

 

https://archive.ph/C9iVF

 

 When it became clear earlier this year that Trump would definitely secure his party’s nomination, there was some flirting in Europe with the thought that the continent must step up and take over the funding and support for Ukraine when the US abandons Zelensky and his people. Those of us who suggested this did so on the basis it should surely be feasible for a continent of 500 million souls, with an economy ten times the size of Russia’s, to find the money and also to strengthen the European pillar of Nato. Beyond some statements since Trump’s victory about European solidarity, there is no meaningful sign of it.

I hope I am wrong. I hope Europe, including the UK, steps up properly for Ukraine and commits to spending at least 3 per cent of GDP on rebuilding our own defences. As it stands, what seems more likely is that we will wring our hands while Ukraine is forced to endure ritual humiliation.

 

My note - from Gemini

 

The UK is currently spending approximately 2.3% of its GDP on defense. There is a commitment to increase this to 2.5% of GDP by 2030.

 

To calculate 0.7% of the UK's GDP, we need the current GDP figure.

According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the UK's GDP in 2023 was £2,720 billion.  

To find 0.7% of this amount, we can multiply the GDP by 0.7% (or 0.007):

£2,720 billion * 0.007 = £19.04 billion

Therefore, 0.7% of the UK's GDP in 2023 was approximately £19.04 billion.

 

That would be nearly £700 more per household per year.

Europe and the UK are broke. To support Ukraine more would require borrowing or cutting more services. Will the leaders be that suicidal for their political futures?

One wonders why the populace haven't yet revolted over spending so much on Ukraine- perhaps too busy looking at porn on the internet to care.

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beautifulthailand99 Platinum Member

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15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Europe and the UK are broke. To support Ukraine more would require borrowing or cutting more services. Will the leaders be that suicidal for their political futures?

One wonders why the populace haven't yet revolted over spending so much on Ukraine- perhaps too busy looking at porn on the internet to care.

Populism is on the rise even more so since the Trump win Orban and Fico are in virtal open rebellion and Germany fears an AfD resurgence , same with Austria. We are at the beginning of the end.

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59 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Populism is on the rise even more so since the Trump win Orban and Fico are in virtal open rebellion and Germany fears an AfD resurgence , same with Austria. We are at the beginning of the end.

The EEC was a good idea for Europe. The political and monetary union has been a disaster. Sooner it goes back to an EEC the better.

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