Thailand Set to Recriminalise Cannabis Amid Expert Outcry

[JBChiangRai]

4 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

Apparently I'm a stoner as I use cannabis.

 

I'm using the same logic that anyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic, or maybe you would prefer p!ss head?

 

If stoner is offensive, suggest another description.

 

I don't agree calling drinkers alcoholics is correct, but p?ss head, boozer, drinker is descriptive although p?ss head is probably offensive.

[TheAppletons]

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

If stoner is offensive, suggest another description.

 

 

"People who use cannabis"?  "Cannabis users"?  

 

 

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, sungod said:

Apparently I'm a stoner as I use cannabis.

 

4 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Your words. Not mine.

Seems you didn't see the word apparently or you don't understand what it means. @sungod did not say "I'm a stoner as I use cannabis." Can you see the difference or is your morning imbibing session affecting your senses?

[Andre0720]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

You know for a fact that "Thailand's youth" are abusing dope do you or is this just an opinion? As for youth what age would this be? Bear in mind that "Thailand's youth" are also using alcohol, tobacco, ice and yaba. Of course your generalist statement is nonsense. Yes, there is drug abuse but I'll bet the majority of abuse or casual consumption will primarily be alcohol and tabacco. You don't need to be an "expert" to work this one out.

The facts are spelled out by the medical experts in Thailand. Not from me, sir.

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The move to recriminalise cannabis marks a significant departure from last year’s decriminalisation, which saw thousands of cannabis shops proliferate across Thailand.

 

This might be an indicator of general use by the youth here, or at the lest, a very popular use....

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Andre0720 said:

The facts are spelled out by the medical experts in Thailand. Not from me, sir.

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The move to recriminalise cannabis marks a significant departure from last year’s decriminalisation, which saw thousands of cannabis shops proliferate across Thailand.

 

This might be an indicator of general use by the youth here, or at the lest, a very popular use....

Your opinion of "medical experts" in this case is far higher than mine. My opinion of "medical experts" went through the floor a few years back.

[dinsdale]

10 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

The move to recriminalise cannabis marks a significant departure from last year’s decriminalisation, which saw thousands of cannabis shops proliferate across Thailand.

 

This might be an indicator of general use by the youth here, or at the lest, a very popular use....

This is 100% conjecture. When you can demonstrate the % of youth (whatever age that is) are frequenting the dope shops then your comments will have some varacity. As it stands they don't.

[jollyhangmon]

38 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Thailand - The hub of self inflicted egg on face.

 

bob.

 

... yep, and that's putting it quite mildly.

 

While ago I read a conservative estimation (acc. to BKKpost) of 1,2 bn USD value for that market for '25 ... aren't they whining about bad economy all the time, pestering their central bank? Or is that only to justify that hairbrained & failing wallet vote-buying scam??

 

Look at just the 1 example of undertaken investments - at the very least 51% Thai owned - shown in the vid linked below, starting 4 minutes in ... let's see how they turn these back, talkin' about egg & face, 555 ... 

 

 

 

[bobbin]

52 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Accusing people of being an alcoholic is an insult to most normal people.

If you cannot see that......

If you can not see that... All the "anti" users of alcohol who feel free to insult and pontificate about users of cannabis are all just exhibiting the effects of decades of propaganda..

[ChumpChange]

Governmental Hub of baseless conjecture, anecdotal data, confusion, ineptitude, flip-flops, u-turns, hypocrisy, double standards, powerful personal interests, lies, deception, misdirection, misinformation, incompetence, incorrect facts, sensationalism, and propaganda. If I've managed to inadvertently leave anything out then please let me know. 

[Keep Right]

Stupid is as stupid does. They call it dope for a reason. Why would I want to pay good money to be a dope? No thanks, I enjoy my sanity.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, bobbin said:

If you can not see that... All the "anti" users of alcohol who feel free to insult and pontificate about users of cannabis are all just exhibiting the effects of decades of propaganda..

Not far off of a century of propaganda now. Sadly people are not encouraged to think for themselves or completely lack this ability. A recent term (I think) and one I like very much is to describe these people as sheeple. Very apt indeed. Of course religion also plays a large role in this. As I said in a previous thread about the "....support of nearly 76% of Thais according to a recent NIDA poll..." how many of these will be against everything? We all know the type, religious nutters. How many have absolutelely no idea about the facts and only listen to and believe the propaganda and narrative? What this poll also showed was 25% of responents do not want it recriminalised. 1/4 as opposed to 3/4 and of those 3/4 most would not have a clue. Just go by what they're told and believe what they're told. The sheeple. Last 4 yrs has been an excellent example.

Edited May 25 by dinsdale

[Imkah]

I think a lot of you are missing a point here:  The ganja-shops are for tourists and I doubt that opening up for sale has had much impact on Thai youth.  They will not walk in to one of these new shops and pay 300 - 800 Baht pr.gram!  Those who are interested in continuing their practice of smoking will keep on buying the «un-certified» ganja at f.ex 50Baht for 7-8 grams.  For them nothing has changed, the politicians (and probably doctors etc) are probably just sore because they didn´t get in on the game in time.

[Imkah]

I think a lot of you are missing a point here:  The ganja-shops are for tourists and I doubt that opening up for sale has had much impact on Thai youth.  They will not walk in to one of these new shops and pay 300 - 800 Baht pr.gram!  Those who are interested in continuing their practice of smoking will keep on buying the «un-certified» ganja at f.ex 50Baht for 7-8 grams.  For them nothing has changed, the politicians (and probably doctors etc) are probably just sore because they didn´t get in on the game in time.

[Trippy]

Nothing is set in stone, there isn't even a new bill yet, and it will have to be debated by the govt first, then will need to be in the gazette before it becomes law.

The OP is just stirring up trouble.  

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Stupid is as stupid does. They call it dope for a reason. Why would I want to pay good money to be a dope? No thanks, I enjoy my sanity.

I guess you don't drink alcohol to ecxess then. Not good for the old brain cells that. Nothing wrong with that choice (unless you do drink excessively) but what makes you think smoking a joint is going to make you lose your sanity. If anything it might help you keep it. Sure helps me when this missus is in one of her moods. A beer and a joint and I'm nice an relaxed. An absolute positive for my mental health.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Imkah said:

I think a lot of you are missing a point here:  The ganja-shops are for tourists and I doubt that opening up for sale has had much impact on Thai youth.  They will not walk in to one of these new shops and pay 300 - 800 Baht pr.gram!  Those who are interested in continuing their practice of smoking will keep on buying the «un-certified» ganja at f.ex 50Baht for 7-8 grams.  For them nothing has changed, the politicians (and probably doctors etc) are probably just sore because they didn´t get in on the game in time.

No. Shops all over Thailand not just in the tourist spots and not just for tourists.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The Minister of Public Health is introducing a more stringent regime for medical cannabis use, backed by medical professionals who have declared the previous liberalisation policy a disaster

Anutins populist policy... 

[khunpin]

Good decision! 

It has always been an easy entrance into becoming an addict! 

Close all those drug shops and not forget the shisha places where the cri....l Arabs hang out! 

[JimboB4]

Are there any news sources that actually provide factual local news translated to English who report actual news and not just bs that certain people say that they would like to see happen? Weed isn’t going anywhere shops are not shutting down and are operating normally. 

[tandor]

6 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

If they think they are getting a piece of the international medical Maryjane market they are going to be disappointed, too late, too slow, too much nonsense.

would you like some 10 year old Rice with that?

[JimboB4]

You all have been reporting bullsh!t about this issue literally since the day they first began legalization of it. You can’t write it away. PM doesn’t have the power, you have the narcotics control board in which Anutin is a member and parliament who has the power. Additionally sounds like the current government is on their way out the door anyway. 

[FangFerang]

6 hours ago, Henryford said:

It was obvious from the start that turning Thailand's youth into a bunch of stoners was not a good idea. You don't need to be an "expert" to work that one out.

Cannabis has been freely available since I arrived here in 2010. This law just helps support police bribes and alcohol-producing companies.
 

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The move to recriminalise cannabis marks a significant departure from last year’s decriminalisation

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Critics of the 2022 liberalisation have been particularly vocal

 

More great reporting. But nothing to see here. Just another government U-turn. Maybe next week they'll U-turn on vaping.

[Bill B]

Good it stinks and puts me off my beer 😉

[CLW]

Too late to turn back anything.

Should have thought about it before this free for all policy. 

A ban or re - listing just creates a huge black market and endless possibilities for extortion and tea money.

And medical society is against it because they want to have a piece of the cake. 

Meaning cannabis prescribed through doctors for a 20 Baht piece of paper and a 100 Baht initial check up. Then selling the weed in licenced hospitals or pharmacies. 

That's how it will turn out. 1000 percent sure

[Geir Rasch]

6 hours ago, dinsdale said:

You know for a fact that "Thailand's youth" are abusing dope do you or is this just an opinion? As for youth what age would this be? Bear in mind that "Thailand's youth" are also using alcohol, tobacco, ice and yaba. Of course your generalist statement is nonsense. Yes, there is drug abuse but I'll bet the majority of abuse or casual consumption will primarily be alcohol and tabacco. You don't need to be an "expert" to work this one out.

We all know that alcohol and tobacco are unhealthy drugs, but cannot see why two unhealthy drugs should be an argument to introduce another unhealthy drug.

Edited May 25 by Geir Rasch

[spidermike007]

Pot should be legal worldwide. It harms nobody, unless you count poor memory and lack of ambition as great offenses against the nation. Totally regressive politics. 

 

And what strikes me as amusing, is how those who are the most judgmental about ganga, tend to be heavy consumers of alcohol. And no mention of the incredibly toxic effects of heavy drinking from the judgment brigade. I consider alcohol to be infinitely more toxic to the body and mind. Not to mention society. Yet, it is legal. 

 

Like many things, moderate use can be enjoyable and relaxing for many. 

 

And from a medicinal point of view, it is astonishing. My mother smoked. She had severe degenerative osteoarthritis of the spine. She was in alot of chronic pain. It helped her alot. And my guess is it was far better for her health and mind, than pain killers. 

 

 

[newbee2022]

There was NO outcry by any experts but ignorants only🙏

[Colabamumbai]

Been one of those stoners 56 years now. 

[tonypattaya]

Why drive it underground again. The weed lovers will still get their supplies, thereby increasing related crimes. The government ought to licence it out at a fee of, say, an initial 5 million baht, an annual fee of, say, 1 million baht, and a 200% duty. These figures are guesswork, but a closer study could be made.
This would considerably reduce the number of outlets, and as the prices would have to reflect the higher establishment costs, it would considerably reduce the number of potential customers.