jerrymahoney Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, rudi49jr said: Wasn’t she the one who forgot to check the ‘jury trial’ box in the Trump fraud case? Trump lawyers didn’t forget to check a box on jury trial, Judge Engoron says Published Oct. 12, 2023 Donald Trump’s attorneys did not forget to check a box to request a jury trial in the Trump Organization fraud trial, New York Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron said this week in an effort to clear up misinformation about the high-profile case. “We are having a non-jury trial because we are hearing a non-jury case,” Engoron said, according to Yahoo! News and ABC News reports. “It would have not helped to make a motion. Nobody forgot to check off a box.” https://www.legaldive.com/news/trump-lawyers-didnt-forget-to-check-a-box-on-jury-trial-judge-engoron-say/696385/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Be fair, Trump has about as much chance of getting off as a black man in KKK county, with a KKK judge and a KKK jury ! Political lawfare is not justice. The judge is a Biden donor, and his daughter works for the Biden's !! I mean come on. A case that can be convicted in one state and not another due to political biases is just wrong. One things for sure, if Trump gets in, i foresee hundreds of these election interferers going to prison or taking plea deals Nothing's better than a conspiracy theory for MAGA fans, when they don't like reality. Same as when Trump lost the 2020 election! 😀 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 hours ago, Social Media said: Alina Habba, attorney for former President Donald Trump, expressed her unease over the jury in Trump's hush-money trial not being sequestered during the Memorial Day weekend. Habba suggested that the jurors might have been subjected to outside influences that could impact their impartiality as they prepare for the trial's closing arguments this week. “They should have been sequestered, because, in my opinion, these jurors are handling something that is completely unprecedented and unwarranted in America,” Habba asserted. She voiced her concerns about the jurors' exposure to media and discussions during the holiday, which could potentially affect their judgment. Habba emphasized that if jurors were exposed to news sources like MSNBC or CNN, referred to disparagingly by Trump as "MSDNC," they might not receive unbiased information. "If they’re left-wing and they’re watching MSDNC, as my client calls it, [MSNBC] or CNN, they’re not going to get fair news," she stated. The case in question involves 12 New York jurors who will soon deliberate on whether to convict Trump on 34 criminal counts related to falsifying business records. These charges are linked to reimbursements made to Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen, who paid $130,000 to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October 2016 to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump. Trump has pleaded not guilty to these charges and has consistently denied having an affair with Daniels. Last Tuesday, Trump's defense team rested their case without calling the former president to testify. The jurors were then dismissed until the upcoming Tuesday, when closing statements are set to begin. Following these statements, jury deliberations will commence. Judge Juan Merchan indicated that the delay in closing arguments until Tuesday was due to some unspecified “issues,” though he did not elaborate on what these might be. Habba elaborated on her concerns, noting that the holiday weekend allowed jurors to interact with friends and family who might hold strong opinions about Trump. She feared that such interactions could lead to biased decisions. “I have serious concerns. If they’re left-wing and they’re watching MSDNC, as my client calls it, [MSNBC] or CNN, they’re not going to get fair news,” Habba reiterated. She also mentioned the risk of jurors discussing the case at social gatherings, which might reinforce negative perceptions about Trump. Highlighting the potential consequences of these interactions, Habba remarked, “I have worries about them going back to whatever friends might have Trump derangement syndrome, forgetting all sense of reality, and coming back and sitting in that box and saying, you know what, I have got to take one for the [Democratic National Committee].” She stressed the importance of jurors making their decisions based solely on the law and facts presented during the trial. “I want law to [be] fact, because, if we can get that, we will win, we will not just get a hung jury, we will get an acquittal. So, let’s see,” she concluded. The hush-money trial has attracted significant public and media attention due to the high-profile nature of the case and the involvement of a former president. Trump's legal team has consistently argued that the charges are politically motivated and lack merit. The case's outcome could have substantial implications for Trump's political future and the broader legal landscape concerning former presidents. As the trial progresses, the jurors' ability to remain impartial and unaffected by external influences will be crucial in determining the final verdict. Habba's concerns underscore the challenges faced in high-profile cases where media coverage and public opinion can potentially sway the judicial process. Whether the jury can deliver a fair and unbiased verdict remains to be seen as the trial nears its conclusion with the upcoming closing arguments and subsequent deliberations. Credit: The Hill 2024-05-28 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 She's just kicking up dust, show the orange she's working. Prediction: Regardless of how the jury delivers, I think the judge just might give the defendant a small sampling of government accommodation for behaving like such a jackass during the trial. Just a few days, maybe a week. No warning, no "report the next day," just take him down right from the courtroom. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Meh. Influence over the holiday weekend, or this upcoming Wednesday, could go either way. It might favor trump, it might favor the prosecution, and it may have no bearing whatsoever. Very few juries are sequestered, most don't want to be. Most juries are not sitting on highly politicized cases that will have massive potential for violence depending on the verdict. If the judge did not understand that he should not be a judge IMO, but perhaps he did and did it anyway. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Very few juries are sequestered, most don't want to be. Sequestration is most commonly used in high-profile trials in which media coverage and public conversations about the case may be so ubiquitous that it is difficult for jurors to avoid. A judge also may order that a jury be sequestered to prevent others from tampering with them through undue persuasion, threats, or bribes. The trials of O.J. Simpson in 1995, George Zimmerman in 2013, Bill Cosby in 2017 were modern cases in which it was done, with the jury spending 265 days in sequestration in the Simpson case. In 2021, the jury in the Derek Chauvin murder trial was partially sequestered during the trial itself, and fully sequestered during deliberations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_sequestration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BusyB Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Watawattana said: Yeah, darn those defence lawyers for doing the job they're paid to do. Are they paid to call a jury's integrity into question even before a verdict has been reached (or after for that matter)? Anyway Habba is the last lawyer I'd want defending me - she's thick as porcine faeces and utterly incompetent to boot. Of course that makes her a hero to the Maga mob because they can all identify with that. Besides which her 'arguments' here are also utterly specious. The defense had plenty of chance to challenge the jury during selection and accepted it as seating. God these clowns are so damn tiresome. Yet so many dupes buy into it. Edited May 28 by BusyB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The Partial Gag Order placed on Defendant Trump has undoubtedly removed the most significant source of Jury influencing and intimidation. Thanks for letting us know you will not accept a guilty verdict if that’s what this jury hands down. Always good to know what kind of blind bias we are in the company of. Oh I don't think that was ever in any doubt, now was It? They will not stop until the FNT ( fat knacker Trump) is in the Whitehouse, no matter what the courts may decide or the how the people may vote. If heaven forbid, he does get in, then the Judicial branch will be emasculated, the legislative branch sidelined, and a dynasty rapidly established that will last for the foreseeable future - maybe a "thousand year Reich". 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 36 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Most juries are not sitting on highly politicized cases that will have massive potential for violence depending on the verdict. If the judge did not understand that he should not be a judge IMO, but perhaps he did and did it anyway. Following your line of reasoning....if the judge were a Republican, he should also recuse himself, for the same reason! 😀 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 10 hours ago, Social Media said: Habba suggested that the jurors might have been subjected to outside influences that could impact their impartiality All one has to remember from Alina, "Would you rather be Smart or Pretty?" She said, "Oh, easy, pretty...I can fake being smart." Mission accomplished. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 9 hours ago, Tug said: And ugly to lol actually I agree with Thai beached lover’s assessment they will desperately try to bleat the jury was compermised and bleat about the judge .as everyone has bent over backwards for this defendant enough allready get the verdict done then as far as I’m concerned he can sit in the can as he appeals…….meh …. she's far from ugly. but, post up a pic, lets see how you look to be calling others ugly! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, candide said: Nothing's better than a conspiracy theory for MAGA fans, when they don't like reality. Same as when Trump lost the 2020 election! 😀 you mean like Trump going to be a dictator, end of democracy, going to start ww3, putin stooge, blah blah..... what ever came of any of it? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: Alina Habba gaslights idiots in her latest attempt to cash in on her 15 mins of fame riding the Trump Train* *train is for one way tix holders only as it is headed for the the land of no return..... Wow Shes SO smart you gotta wonder why King Baby fired her and she isnt his lawyer--since SHE has ALL the answers!!!!! oh..wait...she forgot to even check the box for a jury trial....HUNTERS LAPTOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Misinformation i believe..... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 14 minutes ago, frank83628 said: she's far from ugly. but, post up a pic, lets see how you look to be calling others ugly! If he thinks she's ugly I wonder what he thinks is attractive. Habba Habba. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Srikcir said: All one has to remember from Alina, "Would you rather be Smart or Pretty?" She said, "Oh, easy, pretty...I can fake being smart." Mission accomplished. Link required, or you are making that up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Link required, or you are making that up. Says the guy who always provides links, and never makes stuff up. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, frank83628 said: you mean like Trump going to be a dictator, end of democracy, going to start ww3, putin stooge, blah blah..... what ever came of any of it? Based on what he said and did, e.g. he supported Putin on several occasions, starting with the invasion of Crimea. I don't know who said he'll start WW3. Edited May 28 by candide 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Link required, or you are making that up. It was widely reported. You can Google it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 hours ago, frank83628 said: you mean like Trump going to be a dictator, end of democracy, going to start ww3, putin stooge, blah blah..... what ever came of any of it? Trump won't start WW3. But he is a Putin stooge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted May 29 Popular Post Share Posted May 29 12 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Trump won't start WW3. But he is a Putin stooge. no, Biden is aready close to. ww3 Putin stooge is just white noise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 5/27/2024 at 11:17 AM, riclag said: As the trial progresses, the jurors' ability to remain impartial and unaffected by external influences will be crucial in determining the final verdict. Habba's concerns underscore the challenges faced in high-profile cases where media coverage and public opinion can potentially sway the judicial process. Whether the jury can deliver a fair and unbiased verdict remains to be seen as the trial nears its conclusion with the upcoming closing arguments and subsequent deliberations. NY court trial Manhattan docket : We the people of NY vs Djt . We the people,dems( jury, prosecutors & trial judge) find you guilty ! It will be a first ,dem convicted leading candidate to be Potus! you forgot... we the REPUBLICAN witnesses who testified as to what they saw and heard dear leader do...truly amazing how the dems somehow convinced these trumpers to get on stand and make up lies aboout donnie and what happened....we all know donnie has never done anything wrong in his entire life....he told us all that about a zillion times ....you need to get some new lines about your dem witch hunt as the testimony that will ultimately sink trump is mostly coming for life long repubs who voted for trump and many worked for him.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pomchop said: .truly amazing how the dems somehow convinced these trumpers to get on stand and make up lies aboout donnie and what happened... They received subpoenas from the Prosecution to testify under penalty of perjury. (Hope) Hicks, appearing in Manhattan Supreme Court under subpoena, testified that she has not spoken to Trump since the summer or fall of 2022 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/03/trump-trial-resumes-after-infamous-cohen-phone-call-tape-is-played-for-jury-.html Edited May 29 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: They received subpoenas from the Prosecution to testify. yes as i said yesterday that is correct. ..still does not explain why almost every single republican on the stand is generally more harmful than helpful to the trump defense...could it be that they are telling the truth? And how did trumps supposed defense star witness costello work out for the defense.....guess all those emails that supported cohen version of their interaction must have slipped his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 15 minutes ago, pomchop said: yes as i said yesterday that is correct. ..still does not explain why almost every single republican on the stand is generally more harmful than helpful to the trump defense...could it be that they are telling the truth? And how did trumps supposed defense star witness costello work out for the defense.....guess all those emails that supported cohen version of their interaction must have slipped his mind. All the Prosecution witnesses described what happened (at least I believe) save maybe Cohen, factually. As Ms. Haberman noted in the quote above, none of that explains why this is a simple legal case. Edited May 29 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Cohen of course was going to be a problem as a witness....but as was pointed out the prosecution did not find him at the witness store.....it appeared to me that the corrabating evidence presented in docs and other testimony fit very well with cohens testimony....the fact that cohen was a lying sleaseball for ten years fits very well with the type of lying sleazeballs who trump would prefer to have working for him to deal with various issues....if cohen were beyond reproach trump would have fired him very quickly. Hope Hicks and David Pecker and yes Costello helped make cohen a much more believable witness. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 5/28/2024 at 7:59 AM, earlinclaifornia said: Looks like you kind of falling apart without even having a verdict. MAGA's like you continually reley on Fox News as the sources. Time to pay Trump your dues! Come on dude, the can't even name a crime. Their only witness is a known liar. Please seek immediate medical attention for your TDS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 41 minutes ago, pomchop said: Hope Hicks and David Pecker and yes Costello helped make cohen a much more believable witness. We shall see. Whether Hope Hicks or any other witness, none of them explained why it was that their testimony broke any law or a succession of laws (i.e. 'another crime' that itself was constituted by 'unlawful means') that would be responsible for a guilty verdict. Judge Merchan's jury instructions tomorrow, will have to unravel, what a very liberal think tank analysis in support of the Prosecution's case asked: Clear as mud? Edited May 29 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 39 minutes ago, jtrump said: Their only witness is a known liar. There were multiple witnesses and piles of documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) NYTimes headline 21 April 2024: Will a Mountain of Evidence Be Enough to Convict Trump? Monday will see opening statements in the People of the State of New York v. Donald J. Trump. The state’s case seems strong, but a conviction is far from assured. Edited May 29 by jerrymahoney April 21 not 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, jtrump said: Come on dude, the can't even name a crime. Their only witness is a known liar. Please seek immediate medical attention for your TDS Donation, please line up. If you have any extra then pay for all the TDS your causing with your crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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