Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Walker88]

31 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I guess you forgot about covid.   When you shut down the country, unemployment went up to 14%, but back down before he left.

 

National debt ... hmm

 

 

Shh .. don't mention inflation ...

... and with these #s, hard to believer anything you're told

 

 

Didn't forget about Covid. Fortunately, I didn't take his advice for injecting Lysol !

 

Even before Covid his record was mediocre. Covid, and his mishandling of it, made it a disaster.

 

Obama's job growth and stock market performance dwarfed his, even before Covid.

 

Just because he continually claimed "best ever' doesn't make it anymore factural than him claiming he's, like, a really stable genius.

 

As for inflation, not sure how much economics you've studied, but what do you think would be the result of printing $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US? One doesn't need a Nobel in Econ to guess the answer is "Inflation".

 

An $8,400,000,000,000 all-in addition to the National debt is equal to that $25,000.

[stevenl]

Just now, Sticky Rice Balls said:

so it was rigged for king baby?

 

but NOT rigged when HIS term in office and HIS AG put Cohen in jail for the EXACT SAME THING

 

thats the Maga trump lovers mindest......and why the grifter loves his idiot base....

 

great job fixing the wall and making mexico pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................................oh..wait....

 

wonder why he never speaks of that anymore and yet still preaches about bad elements coming it.....HOW ODD.....duh

He could start speaking about that again and they'd cheer at every word. 

[Walker88]

19 minutes ago, G_Money said:

You make absolutely no sense as usual.

 

Now go back and answer my original question of how you were offended by my post.

 

Come on Walker, be a real man.  You can’t keep using that “stress card “ your entire life.

Facts make no sense?

 

That was my list, from UE numbers to growth, etc. The numbers are all taken from USG websites such as Dept of Labor, Dept of Commerce, BLS, BEA, OMB, etc.

 

I answered your question in another post.

 

 

[G_Money]

Listen carefully.  More Kangaroo Court evidence.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6354068387112

[riclag]

6 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Anything beyond the indictment itself, then NO.

I actually look at your comments ,  I don’t scroll by them like the usual suspects ,who hate Trump!

 

Very entertaining , Please don’t let it go to your head cause I know you dislike Trump 

cheers

 

 

Edited June 2 by riclag

[Roo Island]

21 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no, you said apart from cheering about releasing a criminal it was just boos, which is factually incorrect, it's quite ironic when you a few minutes earlier said trumpers hate facts!

According to you. I heard a lot of boos whenheaskedthemtovoteforhim, and a lot of applause when he said he'd release a criminal from jail. Jeez...

[Roo Island]

18 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 there is proof? this article was written over 15 months ago.

 

the fact are nobody was killed or died during trouble at the capitol, apart from Ashley Babbit

Good gosh. Connect the dots. Attacked with pepper spray and had seizures a few hours later. Died the next day. Stunning you support this criminal activity. But typical of Maga cult members.

[Roo Island]

For our offending member.

 

Post in a truthful manner and do not post defamatory comments

Please be polite and respectful to others

Do not flame, troll or stalk other members

Please use the report button when you see a post that breaks the forum rules

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Good gosh. Connect the dots. Attacked with pepper spray and had seizures a few hours later. Died the next day. Stunning you support this criminal activity. But typical of Maga cult members.

i dont support people dying, but you have to get the facts right if you're going to accuse other of not accepting facts, or maga lovers hate facts!

 

chttps://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

Edited June 2 by frank83628

[frank83628]

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

According to you. I heard a lot of boos whenheaskedthemtovoteforhim, and a lot of applause when he said he'd release a criminal from jail. Jeez...

so post correctly then.

thats not what you said, or what was claimed in the link you posted.

[G_Money]

7 minutes ago, Presto said:

You just don't get it, do you?

It's not that a poster feels offended by personal and derogatory comments, it's what the moderators deem as offensive. Jeez.

So why would he even bring it up if he wasn’t TRYING to get their attention?  He thinks he’s slick from the CIA.  There’s a reason he’s not with them anymore.

 

You must of read the post.  Maybe you can describe what was offensive seeing how Walker is incapable, yet he can write a 10 page report on everything else.  
 

Odd, to say the least.

[BobBKK]

18 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Rational discussion you say after giving us this garbage:

 

Dem jury pick from Dem Manhattan

 

 

And so Trump had Porn Star in his life, shocked I am not.

 

 

 It was a little humour with a basis of truth - who cares if he had a porn star? What we must care about is that this will be overturned at the SC, but long after the election, it is classic electoral interference. 

[BobBKK]

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

 

Were those the same oft quoted but never identified legal scholars that Mr Trump spent so much time assuring us had stated that the case would come to nothing?

 

I felt that perhaps we should know...

 They wrongly assumed that America was not yet a banana republic and that justice would prevail. What we do KNOW is just about every legal scholar is appalled by this farce of a case and the nonsense jury instructions.

[BobBKK]

21 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Let me try to play the Home Version of Whataboutism....

 

ANYBODY else---ANYBODY---who stole even 1% of the level and number of classified documents the convicted felon stole would be in jail awaiting trial, no matter how long the judge tried to delay the trial.

 

I say that as one who long held a TS/SCI and Q clearance and had classification authority.

 

The most sensitive secrets about US weapons, military capabilities, capabilities of both allies and hostile nations, and identities of clandestine foreign intelligence sources sitting in boxes in a country club/wedding facility that anyone willing to pay $200K can join, even MSS case officers. Madness!

 

Sadly, owing to partiality and incompetence of the presiding judge, the trial will not even happen before the election, nor will the DC nor GA trials.  Some Americans will go to the polls in November not knowing if one of the candidates is a thief, a liar to the FBI, violated RICO statutes, engaged in a fake elector scheme, tried to subvert democracy, and is an insurrectionist. Of course, rational people and actual patriots will know and not vote for the convicted felon.

 
Biden didn't have any, of course... oh wait - he wasn't prosecuted based on dementia and being a "frail old man". 

[Roo Island]

19 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i dont support people dying, but you have to get the facts right if you're going to accuse other of not accepting facts, or maga lovers hate facts!

 

chttps://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

Fact.

 

A Capitol Police release the day after the riots said that USCP Officer Brian Sicknick “passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.” The report stated that Sicknick “was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed.”

[Roo Island]

9 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 They wrongly assumed that America was not yet a banana republic and that justice would prevail. What we do KNOW is just about every legal scholar is appalled by this farce of a case and the nonsense jury instructions.

Just about every legal scholar with ties to the GOP. In reality. Trump's been crooked for decades and due to lots of money spent on lawyers, has gotten away his continued flaunting of the law.

 

Sad when supposedly patriotic Americans bash the legal system because it ruled against their cult leader. Accept it and move on

[Roo Island]

8 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
Biden didn't have any, of course... oh wait - he wasn't prosecuted based on dementia and being a "frail old man". 

You could say the same thing about Dozer....old, frail and a failing memory.

 

 

 

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

That reasoning behind the requirement seems pretty suspect. As if people need to be fluent so they can remember the Latin names of body parts.

 

It's much more likely to be aimed at ensuring only the wealthy can get into the medical profession.

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

You could say the same thing about Dozer....old, frail and a failing memory.

 

But Trump must be less old and frail than Biden, as they didn't see it as a reason not to try him.

[Robert Paulson]

I am not even exaggerating when I say you could do a trading places and go grab a strung out crack addict off the streets and clean him up he’d make a much better president than Biden. What did they do in the movie? I think they bet a dollar on it. Any takers? 

[Rimmer]

Some off topic bickering and baiting posts and replies have been removed

[shipwrecked]

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

You could say the same thing about Dozer....old, frail and a failing memory.

 

 

 

Trump is mentally fit to face trival, statute expired book keeping charges at a trial, but Biden is mentally UNFIT to face espionage indictment according to the report issued by Biden's DOJ. It would be appropriate to indict Biden for espionage despite him escaping a trial using an imbecile defense. Trump and his AG will accommodate the imbecile and duly indict Biden for espionage.

[KhunLA]

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

That reasoning behind the requirement seems pretty suspect. As if people need to be fluent so they can remember the Latin names of body parts.

 

It's much more likely to be aimed at ensuring only the wealthy can get into the medical profession.

The why doesn't matter, the requirement at the time did.

[Roo Island]

10 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

I am not even exaggerating when I say you could do a trading places and go grab a strung out crack addict off the streets and clean him up he’d make a much better president than Biden. What did they do in the movie? I think they bet a dollar on it. Any takers? 

Same could be said for Trump. Either way. Both are terrible candidates. Again

[transam]

Just now, shipwrecked said:

Trump is mentally fit to face trival, statute expired book keeping charges at a trial, but Biden is mentally UNFIT to face espionage indictment according to the report issued by Biden's DOJ. It would be appropriate to indict Biden for espionage despite him escaping a trial using an imbecile defense. Trump and his AG will accommodate the imbecile and duly indict Biden for espionage.

Have you ever had a one to one with Biden to come to your conclusion.....?  🤔

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

Trump is mentally fit to face trival, statute expired book keeping charges at a trial, but Biden is mentally UNFIT to face espionage indictment according to the report issued by Biden's DOJ. It would be appropriate to indict Biden for espionage despite him escaping a trial using an imbecile defense. Trump and his AG will accommodate the imbecile and duly indict Biden for espionage.

Completely different situations. Biden didn't lie about it and try to cover it up. Even getting employees involved and now in big trouble.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-trump-classified-documents-trumps-alleged-obstruction-led/story?id=107079663

 

Why Biden and Trump's classified documents cases aren't the same: Experts

[candide]

12 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

Trump is mentally fit to face trival, statute expired book keeping charges at a trial, but Biden is mentally UNFIT to face espionage indictment according to the report issued by Biden's DOJ. It would be appropriate to indict Biden for espionage despite him escaping a trial using an imbecile defense. Trump and his AG will accommodate the imbecile and duly indict Biden for espionage.

It's not what the Republican special counsel said. 😃

https://apnews.com/article/biden-hur-justice-department-classified-documents-trump-a74ec580757cfdf972fa9c0289a9eeb5

Edited June 2 by candide

[HappyExpat57]

4 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

Trump is mentally fit to face trival, statute expired book keeping charges at a trial, but Biden is mentally UNFIT to face espionage indictment according to the report issued by Biden's DOJ. It would be appropriate to indict Biden for espionage despite him escaping a trial using an imbecile defense. Trump and his AG will accommodate the imbecile and duly indict Biden for espionage.

 

I wish to GAWD you people would stop referring to "Biden's DOJ." It is not his, it is an autonomous body. You are confusing this with the convicted criminal's intent to weaponize the DOJ to attack his personal enemies. He has stated this again and again.

 

Please try to keep the facts straight.

 

[shipwrecked]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

This always seem to be forgotten, both on this Forum and by many Americans (though I assume the ones who forget are in the lower economic strata and lack the skills to offer value in the modern, tech economy)

 

When the convicted felon entered office:

 

4.8% unemployment

growing GDP

$19 trillion National Debt

 

When he left:

 

6.8% unemployment

a Recession

$27.5 trillion in National Debt

First President since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when entering office

Rising trade deficit with China

 

As for Biden, he inherited all that ^ American Carnage, but so far:

 

*Highest GDP growth since the late 1990s

*More job creation than under any POTUS ever

*27 straight months of UE below 4%, something not seen since the 1960s

*An Infrastructure Bill passed that is repairing roads, bridges, commo, airports, rails, etc.

*Chips Act which resulted in first new chip plants in the US in 40 years

*More oil production than ever by any country, with 9000 approved drilling leases waiting for someone to take them

*800,000 newe manufacturing jobs

*Lower prescription drug prices

*Falling trade deficit with China

and Trump is still odds on favorite to win and is consistently outperforming Biden 24/7 on polls that that matter to the American voter. Try to explain that. And while you're at it, count how many wars took place from 2017 to 2021. And then explain why Biden is trying to wage lawfare against his political superior in Trump and jail him for book keeping entries. Explain that so it makes sense to democracy loving Americans and not people like yourself who hate losing to Trump. What happened to the SPR under Biden! How about illegal and unconstitutional student loan handouts. Thats Biden's desperate vote buying schemes because he's getting walloped by the felon now and his campaign is about finished. 

[Presto]

23 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

and Trump is still odds on favorite to win and is consistently outperforming Biden 24/7 on polls that that matter to the American voter. Try to explain that. And while you're at it, count how many wars took place from 2017 to 2021. And then explain why Biden is trying to wage lawfare against his political superior in Trump and jail him for book keeping entries. Explain that so it makes sense to democracy loving Americans and not people like yourself who hate losing to Trump. What happened to the SPR under Biden! How about illegal and unconstitutional student loan handouts. Thats Biden's desperate vote buying schemes because he's getting walloped by the felon now and his campaign is about finished. 

I'll explain it to you, just like I explained Trump's win in 2016, and his 10 million more votes in 2020.

Just like Trump, Americans in general have no interest in or understanding of democracy and the rule of law. And just like Trump they're not very interested in facts. They're not very well educated.

How democracy is valued in a country, can be measured by voter turnout. Where I come from, 80% is the norm. The 66% of the 2020 elections was great in the eyes of Americans, and pathetic in my eyes, considering the circumstances, the choices.

They'd rather go with a snake oil salesman, like Trump.

Trump is not the problem, he's just a symptom of the state of American democracy. Just like Biden is, by the way.

Civilized people all around the world are scratching their head why a crook like Trump is even allowed to run for the presidency again. Well, I just gave you your answer.

Edited June 2 by Presto