Will we see Nuclear Armagedon before 2025?

[daveAustin]

No, because Putin values his life and country too much. It's all hot air. Anyone thinking he and China are the good guys and it's all on the evil West need their head read. Look at how they treat their populace for crying out loud! Duh.

[Seppius]

17 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 

Anyone remember reading about the UFOs that somehow switched off the nukes? It was a temporary thing, but I wouldn’t doubt it.  Maybe the aliens will save humanity from the Neocons. 

Here is that story, I did see a dis-prove video on it also

8 mins long

 

But I do believe if we are being watched that they would want to try and stop us destroying a "Goldilocks" planet, packed with natural resources

[0james0]

On 5/31/2024 at 7:40 AM, connda said:

But I hope I'm wrong

You’re wrong so don’t worry- stop thinking too much and go on a YouTube and television 

[mikebike]

On 5/31/2024 at 9:40 PM, connda said:

Russian President Putin has made Russia's red-line clear to Western leaders.  Defensive nukes are on the table.

In one of the stupidest moves of the Ukraine war, Ukraine launched drones and hit two of Russia's Over-The-Horizon Early Warning radars which are the tripwires which watch for Western first-strike ballistic missile launches.  I've checked the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists regarding the Doomsday Clock but nothing is recent and it does not take in account the latest developments of the attack on Russian nuclear deterrence infrastructure.

The Doomsday Clock is still officially at 90 seconds to midnight.  Personally I believe with the strikes on Russian nuclear Early Warning radars that clock has move to about 15 seconds from midnight.

Do you believe we will see a nuclear Armageddon before 2025, or do you think we'll all still be around this time next year.  Why?

Personally - I'd say there is about an 90% chance that we collectively won't see the New Year.  But I hope I'm wrong.  Thoughts? 

Please keep it civil.  Thanks.

 

I think I have lost the plot dude...

[mikebike]

On 5/31/2024 at 9:40 PM, connda said:

Russian President Putin has made Russia's red-line clear to Western leaders.  Defensive nukes are on the table.

In one of the stupidest moves of the Ukraine war, Ukraine launched drones and hit two of Russia's Over-The-Horizon Early Warning radars which are the tripwires which watch for Western first-strike ballistic missile launches.  I've checked the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists regarding the Doomsday Clock but nothing is recent and it does not take in account the latest developments of the attack on Russian nuclear deterrence infrastructure.

The Doomsday Clock is still officially at 90 seconds to midnight.  Personally I believe with the strikes on Russian nuclear Early Warning radars that clock has move to about 15 seconds from midnight.

Do you believe we will see a nuclear Armageddon before 2025, or do you think we'll all still be around this time next year.  Why?

Personally - I'd say there is about an 90% chance that we collectively won't see the New Year.  But I hope I'm wrong.  Thoughts? 

Please keep it civil.  Thanks.

 

I think u have lost the plot dude...

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, KhunLA said:

With that much concern ... any preparation for your inevitable NA.

 

Starting to store; food, rice, canned meats, water, installing solar.  Above or below ground bunker ?

 

Tick Tock ... the end is near 

The criminals will thank all those that stored up food etc, so they could take it for themselves. How will they know  who has stored food? Just as WW2 concentration guards masquerading as prisoners were easily found- they will be the ones not starving.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/2/2024 at 12:40 AM, Ben Zioner said:

It isn't. It is the largest country in the World, with the GDP of Italy. Russia is spending disproportionate amount in military ventures that make you believe it is a superpower.

They can still kill you from thousands of miles away though.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, KhunLA said:

If I really thought the end was near, I'd make some arrangements to last at least 6 months without the need to leave the house.  Maybe a whole rainy season to have radiation 'dust' at least out of the air.

 

If any chance of surviving long term.  I'm only 69 yrs old, wife & kid much younger 

Errrr, doesn't radiation travel right through building materials?

 

If you want to survive best well underground with filtered air supply.

 

If it happens and I'm still alive I'm not planning on being around much longer to suffer.

[connda]

11 hours ago, 0james0 said:

You’re wrong so don’t worry- stop thinking too much and go on a YouTube and television 

That's the thinking of your average citizen clone who gets all their "news" from main-stream media instead of studying history (especially the history of the British Empire and which was taken over by the United State post WWII) as well as Geo-politics.  Start with The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski.  Subscribe to Foreign Affairs and read how the Neo-cons think and plan.  Read The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk.  Read the history of the British Empire and the kind of thought during 18th and 19th centuries that drove their empirical conquests. Read Sir Halford Mackinder's The Geographical Pivot of History and understand The Heartland Theory and its effect on the thinking and action of Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the current crop of neo-cons driving US foreign policy which is taking us to the brink of nuclear annihilation.  I'm discussing this with rather ignorant people who get their view of the world from cable new networks and then believe they understand the realities of interplay of global geopolitics with the US playing Team America - World Police.  Nope.  People like you don't "get it" so ignorance is bliss. 

"You’re wrong so don’t worry- stop thinking too much..."

Let's revisit that in a year.

[Gweiloman]

21 hours ago, daveAustin said:

No, because Putin values his life and country too much. It's all hot air. Anyone thinking he and China are the good guys and it's all on the evil West need their head read. Look at how they treat their populace for crying out loud! Duh.

Interesting comment. Can you kindly elaborate on how these two governments treat their populace? Ideally it should be based on personal observation and experience as opposed to western msm articles. Some of those can’t be believed you know.

[KhunLA]

22 hours ago, daveAustin said:

No, because Putin values his life and country too much. It's all hot air. Anyone thinking he and China are the good guys and it's all on the evil West need their head read. Look at how they treat their populace for crying out loud! Duh.

Haven't been to RU or CH, but I left USA, because not a fan of the way I was treated.  Or how USA treats the rest of the world, (ex: invade & occupy), and almost just as bad, how USA treats it's own citizens. 

 

SHAMEFUL ... IMHO

[Gweiloman]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Haven't been to RU or CH, but I left USA, because not a fan of the way I was treated.  Or how USA treats the rest of the world, (ex: invade & occupy), and almost just as bad, how USA treats it's own citizens. 

 

SHAMEFUL ... IMHO

I’ve travelled both extensively and my impression is that the populace is happy with their lot. China in particular has been an eye opener. I lived and worked in HKG from 95-98 and remembered Shenzhen as a small fishing village. One would not recognise it today. One of the most futuristic cities in the world. 
 

One thing that some westerners don’t realise is that all this BS talk about democracy and freedom doesn’t matter to the average citizen. Mostly what they care about is having a good job and ability to live comfortably, something that the CPC has been able to offer those who are willing to work hard.

 

I see videos on YT about the homeless, the fentanyl zombies, the state do some of the subway stations, the crime. If true, then it’s absolutely shocking that a government can allow society to degenerate to such a degree. In the UK, I lived in one of the home counties and the people were mostly affluent. The same can’t be said for London proper though. If this is what democracy looks like, no wonder they feel threatened by China’s model, even though the latter has no intention of exporting it anywhere.

[0james0]

20 hours ago, connda said:

That's the thinking of your average citizen clone who gets all their "news" from main-stream media

Wrong again, never pay attention to any of the media. I’d suggest you get your psychic powers repaired. Obviously fear has crept in the mind of the OP by what Mr Putin (the dissemination of the media’s fear mongering of Mr Nuclear Putin I mind you) has said and whatever propaganda nonsense that has been allowed to infiltrate the mind. If anyone here has been shaped by the media, it’s the OP which is clearly illustrated on this thread. Really now, snap out of it, get out more and live.

 

20 hours ago, connda said:

studying history (especially the history of the British Empire and which was taken over by the United State post WWII) as well as Geo-politics.  Start with The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski.  Subscribe to Foreign Affairs and read how the Neo-cons think and plan.  Read The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk.  Read the history of the British Empire and the kind of thought during 18th and 19th centuries that drove their empirical conquests. Read Sir Halford Mackinder's The Geographical Pivot of History and understand The Heartland Theory and its effect on the thinking and action of Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the current crop of neo-cons driving US foreign policy which is taking us to the brink of nuclear annihilation. 

I’m well versed on history and never from a political bent.

 

20 hours ago, connda said:

I'm discussing this with rather ignorant people who get their view of the world from cable new networks and then believe they understand the realities of interplay of global geopolitics with the US playing Team America - World Police.  Nope.  People like you don't "get it" so ignorance is bliss. 

"You’re wrong so don’t worry- stop thinking too much..."

Let's revisit that in a year.

Wow - you have amazing psychic powers- you believe you can predict a global nuclear exchange that will take place before 2025- no wait now you say before 2026 and at the end of next year you’ll revise it to 2027/2028. If someone walked up to me on the street and started to spew this trash I’d tell them that they are loony pat them on the back, advise them they outta get that checked out by a professional, and walk off and resume as normal. 

 

As far as I can see, there is no world leader in power now that wants to see billions suffer. Sure someone might toss a tactical nuke across a border, smuggle material across a border and build a crude device. But no one is going to start slinging intercontinental nuclear warheads to the US, Russia and China. And to come here and propagate a delusional mental tangent is utterly ridiculous.

 

If such of an event occurs- do you really believe that you’re going to be able to save yourself by prepping? Do you have any idea what will take place when resources deplete? Your neighbors will come and take it all, then the neighboring villagers, then the city dwellers will come Burmese will flood across the border for resources, complete anarchy and mayhem . Hide in a bunker? They will dig it out with a D9, this will happen to everyone no matter what type of bunker, military or not, humans are very creative and capable, and world leaders and generals are well aware that they are not immune to human desperation. So why not just go to Antarctica and build an igloo and eat penguins, no one will bother you there.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, 0james0 said:

Wrong again, never pay attention to any of the media. I’d suggest you get your psychic powers repaired. Obviously fear has crept in the mind of the OP by what Mr Putin (the dissemination of the media’s fear mongering of Mr Nuclear Putin I mind you) has said and whatever propaganda nonsense that has been allowed to infiltrate the mind. If anyone here has been shaped by the media, it’s the OP which is clearly illustrated on this thread. Really now, snap out of it, get out more and live.

 

I’m well versed on history and never from a political bent.

 

Wow - you have amazing psychic powers- you believe you can predict a global nuclear exchange that will take place before 2025- no wait now you say before 2026 and at the end of next year you’ll revise it to 2027/2028. If someone walked up to me on the street and started to spew this trash I’d tell them that they are loony pat them on the back, advise them they outta get that checked out by a professional, and walk off and resume as normal. 

 

As far as I can see, there is no world leader in power now that wants to see billions suffer. Sure someone might toss a tactical nuke across a border, smuggle material across a border and build a crude device. But no one is going to start slinging intercontinental nuclear warheads to the US, Russia and China. And to come here and propagate a delusional mental tangent is utterly ridiculous.

 

If such of an event occurs- do you really believe that you’re going to be able to save yourself by prepping? Do you have any idea what will take place when resources deplete? Your neighbors will come and take it all, then the neighboring villagers, then the city dwellers will come Burmese will flood across the border for resources, complete anarchy and mayhem . Hide in a bunker? They will dig it out with a D9, this will happen to everyone no matter what type of bunker, military or not, humans are very creative and capable, and world leaders and generals are well aware that they are not immune to human desperation. So why not just go to Antarctica and build an igloo and eat penguins, no one will bother you there.

While it is unlikely a deliberate nuclear war will happen, mistakes happen. Mistakes like escalating a war with a nuclear power.

 

Never underestimate the desire of the military leadership to start a war, or of their hope to use all the toys in their toybox.

Speaking from experience, I have no faith in military leadership doing the right thing.

Let's remember why the Chinese became involved in the Korean war.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, 0james0 said:

So why not just go to Antarctica and build an igloo and eat penguins, no one will bother you there.

They don't live in igloos in Antarctica and raw penguin would not be very nice. Want cooked penguin or seal, take a few thousand litres of fuel for a cooker along with everything needed to last the winter, like a building, medical supplies, etc. There is no source of fuel down there and it all has to be shipped or flown down. Oh, take some books too, and a lantern as it gets dark for months.

[0james0]

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While it is unlikely a deliberate nuclear war will happen, mistakes happen. Mistakes like escalating a war with a nuclear power.

That had been outlined earlier in the thread already 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, 0james0 said:

That had been outlined earlier in the thread already 

Always worth repeating.

[0james0]

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They don't live in igloos in Antarctica and raw penguin would not be very nice.

Yeah right, that’s why BUILD an igloo was suggested. There are no igloo subdivisions in Antarctica like what you might find in the Arctic. Penguin sashimi, get used to it in the Antarctic because radiation poisoning will have the least abundance in that region if all hell breaks loose.

[Dcheech]

Celestial leader Xi has a BIG, perhaps decisive, voice in any 'potential' escalation to the brink of nuclear war. If it wasn't for their backing, Putin would not have invaded the Ukraine. It was touching how he waited until after the Winter Olympics in China to invade, BTW. Plus that meeting between Putin & Xi, literally days before Russia's legions marched. They jointly proclaimed a new era had dawned & a no limits partnership. Xi told Putin they have a chance to drive changes in a way the world has not seen for a century. No mystery as to what they were talking about!

No matter if they are currently beset by economic problems of their own making today, Leader XI definitely has a long game view. Nuclear was is not part of his long game. Threatening it, however, is fine, if it helps the cause.

You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
 

[0james0]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Always worth repeating.

Oh right, you’re one of the habitual repeat addict offenders on the forum.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, 0james0 said:

Oh right, you’re one of the habitual repeat addict offenders on the forum.

[connda]

Lord - where do these snide, snarky dudes with a handful of posts come from when they decide to crawl out from under a rock just to throw shade at other members.

 

Well, another one makes my OignorelistO  🐂💩  Congrats! Bye bye! 👋

 

[Danderman123]

Nuclear war next year, for sure. Sell your house and everything now, they won't be any use to you next year.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/5/2024 at 5:10 AM, Danderman123 said:

Nuclear war next year, for sure. Sell your house and everything now, they won't be any use to you next year.

I take it that was satire.

If a real nuclear war kicks off all electronic medium will be toast ( EMP ), so good luck paying for anything with a smart phone.

[connda]

Looks like we are about 5 seconds from Midnight on the Nuclear Doomsday Clock, imho.

 

If the US approves long-range missile attacks on the Russian interior, using US, UK, French and other EU service members and contractors to enter the classified, encrypted satellite targeting data into these these country's long-range missiles which they will launch from Ukraine - which is called "giving Ukraine the missiles to fire at Russia," but it isn't Ukraine who fires them, it's NATO members - after the first missile is fired, well then it's the end of humanity as we know it.  We're about there. Personally I don't think we make it to 2025. 

So, if you hear an emergency broadcast that the major nuclear powers have just launched their strategic arsenals, what are you going to do? Well, other than either die within the next hour or more slowly over the next week or so?  I've been here before, in 1962.  My dad was a SAC pilot, I know how close we came then.  And we are even closer now.  Humankind's history has been nothing but war - unending.  Fitting end I say.  The Drona Parva in the Hindu Vedas describe the same in an very ancient past.  Human-monkey's with nukes - how do you expect it to end? If nothing else, man's inhumanity toward man is predictable. 

Got Bunker?  (of course you don't)

[Hummin]

On 5/31/2024 at 4:40 PM, connda said:

Russian President Putin has made Russia's red-line clear to Western leaders.  Defensive nukes are on the table.

In one of the stupidest moves of the Ukraine war, Ukraine launched drones and hit two of Russia's Over-The-Horizon Early Warning radars which are the tripwires which watch for Western first-strike ballistic missile launches.  I've checked the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists regarding the Doomsday Clock but nothing is recent and it does not take in account the latest developments of the attack on Russian nuclear deterrence infrastructure.

The Doomsday Clock is still officially at 90 seconds to midnight.  Personally I believe with the strikes on Russian nuclear Early Warning radars that clock has move to about 15 seconds from midnight.

Do you believe we will see a nuclear Armageddon before 2025, or do you think we'll all still be around this time next year.  Why?

Personally - I'd say there is about an 90% chance that we collectively won't see the New Year.  But I hope I'm wrong.  Thoughts? 

Please keep it civil.  Thanks.

 

What difference will it make if there will be or not a nuclear Armageddon in 25? Almost all of us is going to continue with the same same until it happens. Maybe one or two will arm up, pack up, and store reserves just in case! 

 

If Armageddon happens, my life is over, no more reasons to live, I'm done.

 

No matter where you are in the world, it is going to be a real fight for survival, and I'm not up for that.

 

In the meantime I continue to live like I will live forever. Nothing will change

[novacova]

27 minutes ago, connda said:

after the first missile is fired, well then it's the end of humanity as we know it. 

Anything is possible though personally I think Putin would use tactical nukes in the region, if it even comes to that. Nobody wants to commit nuclear suicide. Just really don’t see a full blown intercontinental exchange. Another thing to consider is Putin knows he’s being gamed by the West’s MIC, he may just take it to the sources. 

[NativeBob]

On 5/31/2024 at 11:41 PM, stoner said:

 

blackrock cannot rebuild a wasteland.

that's a brilliant point! Indeed cannot

[Seppius]

Russia is 'fully ready' to detonate a nuclear bomb in the Arctic 'any moment', it is revealed as Putin is urged to use apocalyptic explosion to threaten the West

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13859695/russia-arctic-nuclear-bomb-sinitsyn-putin.html

 

Breaking news from, well it is The Daily Mail

 

[Danderman123]

Putin knows that nuclear war is bad for business.