Biden & Trump Face Off in High-Stakes Debate: Age, Strategy, and Public Perception at Play

[dhupverg]

Here's a video from Biden's fundraiser in LA.  Good thing Obama was there to help the guy offstage.  Is this who the public really wants as president, or do people just hate the other guy so much that anyone will do, regardless of lack of mental faculities?

 

 

[Skeptic7]

Ol' Joe will clean the blowhard's clock, especially with the mic mute. Hell, even without the mic mute last time...Joe won. Especially when he shut Trump down with...'Will you shut up man? This is SO un-presidential'. 

 

Sure Joe stutters a bit, but he has a good vocabulary and delivery. He can talk issues, form coherent and meaningful sentences, stick to reality, is intelligent and sounds presidential. Trump possesses none of these rudimentary abilities. Trump is a buffoon. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Do you think anybody who thinks rationally will start a nuclear war?

So that leaves the people who are not so rational, others might call them crazy ... 

Do you think Biden is rational? IMO unconditionally supporting a nation that is committing war crimes is not the act of a rational man.

[Skeptic7]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Your boy has a hard time just reading a teleprompter, so I'd say his chances of coming out ahead at the debate is slim to none. I find it extremely painful listening to biden speak, I find myself feeling bad for him. 

Infinitely more painful listening to Trump with his 6 year old child's vocabulary, tired old repeated nonsense talking points "like nobody's ever seen", false claims, flat out lies, gibberish and red/orange-faced rage. Joe is muzak to the ears compared to Trump's bratty babble. 

[thaibeachlovers]

52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes, of course the press was making up stories about Huge Don not being able to stay awake during the trial.

If it was the MSM then yes. Regardless, your picture is an AI fake.

[Skeptic7]

8 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

The people of the US can see they were far better off under Trump than currently under sleepy puppeteered Joe. 

Huh❓ Nope...Not this American. Not even close. Nor for any fellow Americans whom I know...and that's a rather large number. 

[thaibeachlovers]

54 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You echo my exact sentiment on listening to Huge Don speak. He rambles, he makes stuff up, he engages in juvenile name calling, anything to get his devotees charged up.

 

 

and what pray, is wrong with that? He is an entertainer entertaining his base.

 

Biden, however, is as entertaining as a box of Joe's old diapers.

[Skeptic7]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Are you drunk?now I know that stockmarket has been just terrible imagine all the retirement accounts building wealth just terrible don’t forget the disaster of lower drug prices,much much better for big pharma to rip everyone off ehh?and don’t get me started on those terrible unemployment figures or the miserable jobs created …..then let’s not forget all that terrible legislation oh the horrors……last time I looked the USA hasent started any wars but has stood with allies.in Tucson az I can buy gas for 3$ a gallon with a war on and opec trying to rip us off…..naaa Richard Joe is far and away doing a better job than trump,yes he’s old yup we all wish he was younger yup ….all that being said he Will disembowel trump during the debate especially with the muting of the microphone when trump try’s to blow it up.its going to be fun to watch just 2 candidates no audience no fluffers just facts and policy…….!!

Word. And money. Well said❗Ol' Joe is indisputably superior in every way and will mop the floor with Dirty Donny. Same way you just mopped the floor with @RichardColeman 🤣

Edited June 17 by Skeptic7

[Skeptic7]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If I can write Biden's name on here I'm sure you are capable of writing Trump's correct name.

You negate any possibility of being taken seriously by posting garbage.

You spew garbage on nearly every post and on every topic❗

[OneMoreFarang]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you think Biden is rational? IMO unconditionally supporting a nation that is committing war crimes is not the act of a rational man.

I guess you heard this before: Nations have no friends, they have interests.

 

Biden does what is in the interest of the USA and the military industrial complex, and obviously he does what the rich Jewish donors want. He wants to get reelected; it would be stupid of him to oppose the people who donate millions and billions.

Sure, there are also Americans who don't support the war. And there are DEM voters who don't like what he is doing. But what is the alternative for those people? Vote for Trump, who supports Israel even more?

[proton]

Biden will freeze, wander off topic, lie and have to be helped away at the finish and may well need the toilet, should be a good one.

[Skeptic7]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

Biden will freeze, wander off topic, lie and have to be helped away at the finish and may well need the toilet,

Wanna bet❓

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I guess you heard this before: Nations have no friends, they have interests.

 

Biden does what is in the interest of the USA and the military industrial complex, and obviously he does what the rich Jewish donors want. He wants to get reelected; it would be stupid of him to oppose the people who donate millions and billions.

Sure, there are also Americans who don't support the war. And there are DEM voters who don't like what he is doing. But what is the alternative for those people? Vote for Trump, who supports Israel even more?

Unfortunately a vote for Trump is not going to help Palestinians.

 

That a POTUS is beholden to any interest group is IMO why so many Americans hate Washington so much that they will vote for Trump, because he said he wants to clean out the swamp. They probably know he either doesn't really want to or can't do it, but a drowning man will clutch at any straw.

[Danderman123]

42 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you think Biden is rational? IMO unconditionally supporting a nation that is committing war crimes is not the act of a rational man.

Are you talking about Trump's support of Putin's invasion of Ukraine?

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, proton said:

Biden will freeze, wander off topic, lie and have to be helped away at the finish and may well need the toilet, should be a good one.

It's possible.

 

It's also possible that Biden will do so well that you will post that he's on drugs.

[Danderman123]

36 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and what pray, is wrong with that? He is an entertainer entertaining his base.

 

You are implying that Trump supporters are stupid.

[Presto]

1 hour ago, dhupverg said:

Here's a video from Biden's fundraiser in LA.  Good thing Obama was there to help the guy offstage.  Is this who the public really wants as president, or do people just hate the other guy so much that anyone will do, regardless of lack of mental faculities?

 

 

The other guy is an incompetent, ignorant and corrupt fascist and racist, who will surround himself this time with enough competent fascists and christo nationalists, to put an end to the famed American democracy once and for all. With a minority of American voters, but that's how it works in America, minority rule.

Edited June 17 by Presto

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

It's possible.

 

It's also possible that Biden will do so well that you will post that he's on drugs.

It's highly likely he will be on drugs to make him seem normal, IMO.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Are you talking about Trump's support of Putin's invasion of Ukraine?

I do so enjoy opening an occasional post of yours to see what comedy club sketch you have written. Keep 'em coming.

[FritsSikkink]

I think it is sad that a country can't find 2 younger, capable people to represent them.  

[Skeptic7]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unfortunately a vote for Trump is not going to help Palestinians.

 

That a POTUS is beholden to any interest group is IMO why so many Americans hate Washington so much that they will vote for Trump, because he said he wants to clean out the swamp. They probably know he either doesn't really want to or can't do it, but a drowning man will clutch at any straw.

Trump IS the Swamp. Creature from the slimy lagoon. 

[Presto]

47 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I guess you heard this before: Nations have no friends, they have interests.

 

Biden does what is in the interest of the USA and the military industrial complex, and obviously he does what the rich Jewish donors want. He wants to get reelected; it would be stupid of him to oppose the people who donate millions and billions.

Sure, there are also Americans who don't support the war. And there are DEM voters who don't like what he is doing. But what is the alternative for those people? Vote for Trump, who supports Israel even more?

I thought Biden is supposedly to be admired because of his empathy? Where is his empathy with the tens of thousands of Palestinian children killed and maimed for life with the help of the American bombs that Biden supplied for free? 

Even the pathetic word 'concern' doesn't come out of the mouth of this guy anymore.

Edited June 17 by Presto

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, dhupverg said:

Here's a video from Biden's fundraiser in LA.  Good thing Obama was there to help the guy offstage.  Is this who the public really wants as president, or do people just hate the other guy so much that anyone will do, regardless of lack of mental faculities?

 

 

 

 

How sweet. Puppet and master.

 

[dhupverg]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I guess you heard this before: Nations have no friends, they have interests.

 

Biden does what is in the interest of the USA and the military industrial complex, and obviously he does what the rich Jewish donors want. He wants to get reelected; it would be stupid of him to oppose the people who donate millions and billions.

Sure, there are also Americans who don't support the war. And there are DEM voters who don't like what he is doing. But what is the alternative for those people? Vote for Trump, who supports Israel even more?

Alternative is RFK Jr who just might make it into the debate.  CNN came out with rules to keep RFK Jr out of the debate, mainly saying you needed to be on enough states ballots to reach 270 electoral votes.  The only problem with that is both Trump and Biden are not on any ballots until they are confirmed at their respective conventions.  CNN also set a rule that you needed to be at 15% number via polling, and RFK is over that in a number of polls.

 

Both Biden  and Trump don't want RFK on the debate as he will run circles around both of them.  

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/15/robert-f-kennedy-jr-could-be-cusp-joining-cnn-deba/

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/29/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cnn-debate-fec-00160518

[Presto]

11 minutes ago, dhupverg said:

Alternative is RFK Jr who just might make it into the debate.  CNN came out with rules to keep RFK Jr out of the debate, mainly saying you needed to be on enough states ballots to reach 270 electoral votes.  The only problem with that is both Trump and Biden are not on any ballots until they are confirmed at their respective conventions.  CNN also set a rule that you needed to be at 15% number via polling, and RFK is over that in a number of polls.

 

Both Biden  and Trump don't want RFK on the debate as he will run circles around both of them.  

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/15/robert-f-kennedy-jr-could-be-cusp-joining-cnn-deba/

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/29/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cnn-debate-fec-00160518

Maybe the problem was that RFK jr is very hard to understand, with whatever he's saying?

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it was the MSM then yes. Regardless, your picture is an AI fake.

These are some very good fakes. Of course the man is 78, going on 52, so he would never be subject to any sort of fatigue. 

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

Wanna bet❓

Word   

[Presto]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

I think it is sad that a country can't find 2 younger, capable people to represent them.  

Imo it's the Democratic party establishment. 

First huge mistake was to choose Hillary Clinton as candidate, hugely unpopular.

In his eight years Obama should have pushed towards a much younger successor, instead of someone from a dynasty.

And then Biden. The mind boggles.

[Eric Loh]

25 minutes ago, Presto said:

Maybe the problem was that RFK jr is very hard to understand, with whatever he's saying?

His policies are unclear and he is non committal on major issues such as reproductive rights, immigration, gun control and Jan 6

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[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, Presto said:

Imo it's the Democratic party establishment. 

First huge mistake was to choose Hillary Clinton as candidate, hugely unpopular.

In his eight years Obama should have pushed towards a much younger successor, instead of someone from a dynasty.

And then Biden. The mind boggles.

Biden has to run as he is the incumbent. Hillary was a mistake.