Presidential debate is over, have your opinions changed ? What was your take ?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, dutch boy said:

Unbelievable, I think even the most ardent Biden supporter must realize that their candidate is not fit to be the president of the United States. This was so obvious in this debate. Biden's performance was so embarrassing that I could not even watch it after awhile. This is serious folks, the Russians and Chinese are salivating at the prospect of another four years of this incoherent man being president. If the democrats were smart and care for the U.S. they would choose another candidate as soon as possible. 
 

Where are all those "Biden's gonna win" posters? I'm waiting to hear how Biden actually won, or he just ate something that paralyzed his vocal chords, anything at all. C'mon guys, you know who you are. Give it your best shot.

 

As he is the chosen one I think only he can change it. I'm waiting for the Johnson speech. Right now he's probably tied to a chair with his eyelids held open and being forced to watch re runs of it till he uncles.

[thaibeachlovers]

54 minutes ago, connda said:

Yeah - I don't like Biden either.  But thanks for clearing that up for us. 

Plus 1

[mokwit]

Truly appalling, just mud slinging.

[connda]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I never preferred Biden in 24 as the democratic nominee. I wanted him to open up the primary. As he didn't as wasn't opposed of course I supported him against the convicted felon and still will if he doesn't step aside. But he had a job one to perform at the debate and he failed. I hope he is wise enough to be happy with one successful term and not put American democracy at risk by staying on and losing. 

I agree with you there.  Imho geriatrics like Biden and Trump (and myself for that matter) should not be running for the Presidency of the United States.  We seriously need younger blood in that office.  A Gen-X or a Millennial. I am personally tired of Boomers with dementia running our country - that goes for Congress as well.  I wish the American electorate would wake up. 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

NO!

As usual you don't have a clue about American politics.

If Biden steps down in time that means the entire ticket steps down and there can be an open convention.

In an open convention Harris wouldn't have a chance.

It would be between Newsom, Whitmer, and maybe Klobuchar.

Personally I prefer Whitmer but with such a shot campaign name recognition is more important, and Newsom would be the natural favorite.

Newsom would murder the convicted felon in the general!

What numbers does Newsom get now?

[thaibeachlovers]

50 minutes ago, susanlea said:

ABC in September. Another 3 months of coaching to improve? Better drugs? 

Brain transplant?

[Fat is a type of crazy]

9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

What did Trump do to you?

Thanks for asking. I have a world view of how I want the world to be. America is the biggest influence on that world. No candidate does what I would like exactly but Trumps policies and approach to government are totally inconsistent with the way I want the world to be.  

[Jingthing]

Just now, susanlea said:

What numbers does Newsom get now?

What numbers are you getting?

He isn't running yet, darling.

[transam]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Brain transplant?

Blimey, yours didn't work........😪

[susanlea]

Biden has failed the last 3.5 years and only now after a bad debate Democrats admit he is bad? What media do they watch? Must only be biased stuff.

[Ben Zioner]

At least Biden is too poorly coordinated to push the "button". While the other guy the "alley cat"...

[G_Money]

16 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Is this why Biden never takes questions at press conferences - or is it just arrogance, not accountable to the little people?

His infamous quote.  “I don’t work for you “

 

No truer words spoken.

 

 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Thanks for asking. I have a world view of how I want the world to be. America is the biggest influence on that world. No candidate does what I would like exactly but Trumps policies and approach to government are totally inconsistent with the way I want the world to be.  

You like wars then?

[Jingthing]

What the country needs to finally crush the maga fascist movement is a massive landslide loss to the democrats.

Biden even if had had a good debate, wasn't going to deliver that.

Newsom could.

[thaibeachlovers]

Xi, Putin and the north Korean guy are probably going to meet up in Vladivostok and party till they fall off their chair.

What's Russian, Chinese and Korean for "cheers"?

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

What numbers are you getting?

He isn't running yet, darling.

Darling, there would be some numbers out there. It took you 4 years to work out Biden has dementia 

[thaibeachlovers]

41 minutes ago, susanlea said:

What qualities does Newsom have?

He's not Biden.

[transam]

58 minutes ago, G_Money said:

We currently have what you just described.

 

It’s time for a change.  Trump 2024 

 

Get over it.  

Oh, so you want the crook again, probably right up your street.........🤫

[Jingthing]

Just now, susanlea said:

Darling, there would be some numbers out there. It took you 4 years to work out Biden has dementia 

You still haven't figured out that trump is a totally insane fascist.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

What the country needs to finally crush the maga fascist movement is a massive landslide loss to the democrats.

Biden even if had had a good debate, wasn't going to deliver that.

Newsom could.

Why do you still play these 1945 cards? They expired in 1995.

[mokwit]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

His infamous quote.  “I don’t work for you “

 

No truer words spoken.

 

 

Yeah, he kinda gave the game away with that one.

[Ben Zioner]

4 minutes ago, connda said:

A Gen-X or a Millennial.

Macron will be looking for a job soon, he is going to get replaced by a 29 years old Waffen SS.

[susanlea]

Just now, Jingthing said:

You still haven't figured out that trump is a totally insane fascist.

Fascist cards expired 50 years after ww2. You are so 1994.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Biden has failed the last 3.5 years and only now after a bad debate Democrats admit he is bad? What media do they watch? Must only be biased stuff.

They must have known, but didn't want to admit they made a mistake.

[Jingthing]

If Biden doesn't step down, and sadly, he probably won't, there is still a way he could narrowly win.

That is turnout.

If everyone thinks Trump is going to win in a landslide so many of his potential voters won't bother to vote, and that leaves an opening for Biden to win based on a turnout machine.

Not for Biden so much as against fascism. 

 

[xylophone]

23 minutes ago, susanlea said:

What did Trump do to you?

It is what he is doing to the USA and its people, not to mention its standing in the eyes of the world, with a compulsive liar and convicted felon as potential president.......

 

"You have somebody who probably shouldn't be President, and somebody who can't be President."

 

"What you saw was a candidate who is deeply vulnerable and a president who cannot take advantage of that.

 

CNN chief national correspondent John King said there was a contrast between the two candidates - and Biden wasn't impressive.

On the other hand, King said: "Donald Trump broke the fact machine more times than I could count tonight."

 

Over 90 minutes, a raspy-voiced Biden struggled to deliver his lines and counter a sharp though deeply dishonest former President Donald Trump

Trump, 78, appeared to coast through the debate with little trouble, even as he rattled off one falsehood after another without being effectively challenged. 

 

PS. For the record I believe Biden needs to be replaced, albeit a bit late in the piece, if the Democrats are to have a chance later this year. Not sure that Harris will be that popular.

Edited June 28 by xylophone

[Fat is a type of crazy]

6 minutes ago, susanlea said:

You like wars then?

Biden didn't start any. Things could be handled differently for sure but Trump is much worse. John Stewart has done an excellent summary of the debates and candidate performance. That these are the candidates here and now is terrible. But I see hope on the horizon. Joe is a hero. Old age get's us all. 

Edited June 28 by Fat is a type of crazy

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They must have known, but didn't want to admit they made a mistake.

Democrats in general have no morals and don't care for average people. Bernie Sanders is the only one not owned by corporates.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Fascist cards expired 50 years after ww2. You are so 1994.

Their cupboard is so bare all they have is the "fascist" insult. It's like misogynist, antisemitic in that it doesn't work any more.

[susanlea]

Just now, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Biden didn't start any. Things could be handled differently for sure but Trump is much worse. John Stewart has done an excellent summary of the debates. That these are the candidates here and now is terrible. But I see hope on the horizon. Joe is a hero. Old age get's us all. 

50 years and achieved nothing. Good riddance.