Popular Post Social Media Posted Monday at 08:30 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 08:30 PM Former Prime Minister David Cameron has issued a strong cautionary statement regarding the potential risks to Britain's national security if Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer assumes power. Now serving as the foreign secretary, Cameron labeled Starmer as "hopelessly naive" about the increasingly perilous state of the world and criticized Labour’s approach to defense spending. Cameron was unequivocal in his concerns: “Keir Starmer is in danger of weakening Britain’s position and weakening Britain’s defenses. All in a way that’s completely unnecessary.” He pointed to threats posed by an "axis of malign states," including Russia, China, and Iran, which he claims are "threatening us domestically." Cameron’s return to government, after a seven-year hiatus since his time as Prime Minister, has reinforced his belief that "the world is getting more dangerous." Cameron took aim at Labour’s perceived lack of a firm commitment to defense spending. In April, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak pledged to raise defense spending to 2.5% of GDP by 2030, a move Cameron supported and expected Labour to match. However, Starmer has expressed a desire to reach the same spending level without setting a specific timetable. Cameron found this approach "really shocking," especially given that the current government had identified the necessary funds for this commitment. Cameron criticized Starmer’s lack of clarity on how Labour would finance its proposed changes, accusing him of asking the public to "write a blank cheque to Labour." He warned that such unchecked spending could threaten personal finances through "huge tax increases" and unchecked power. Reflecting on his own detailed plans when running for office in 2010 and 2015, Cameron expressed frustration that Starmer had not provided similar specifics. Starmer responded to these criticisms by asserting that Labour is a trusted party on national security, highlighting its foundational role in NATO and the high-level sensitive briefings he has received. He dismissed Cameron’s claims as "ridiculous" and indicative of desperation ahead of the election. Cameron also addressed the broader geopolitical challenges facing Britain, including cyberattacks from China, Iranian attempts to target journalists in the UK, and Russian attacks on London-based facilities. He stressed the need for stronger alliances, increased defense spending, and enhanced security measures to counter these threats. Cameron highlighted the importance of investing in diplomacy, aid, development, military hardware, and espionage to navigate the current dangerous global landscape. Reflecting on his past decisions as Prime Minister, Cameron defended his administration’s engagement with China, noting the positive economic impacts at the time. However, he acknowledged the need for a changed approach in response to China’s more aggressive stance. Cameron also took the opportunity to support current Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, commending his efforts to revitalize the economy and manage inflation. Cameron urged Sunak to continue focusing on growth and stability, drawing parallels with his own experiences in office. Despite his concerns about Labour’s approach, Cameron remains hopeful about the UK’s future under Conservative leadership. He emphasized the importance of resilience and determination in the face of electoral challenges, advocating for a steadfast commitment to core beliefs and policies. Privately, Cameron has reportedly been critical of some decisions made by Sunak, but he publicly praised Sunak’s leadership, stating, “He’s a prime minister I greatly admire” and is “buzzing with energy and ideas for the future of the country.” He highlighted Sunak’s success in achieving economic stability with 2% inflation and 4% unemployment, comparing it favorably to the situation he inherited in 2010. Cameron also reflected on his government’s approach to China, admitting the need for a revised strategy given China’s recent aggressiveness. He noted, “Positive investment took place in Britain by China and we opened up Chinese markets for British companies in a way that strengthened British jobs and growth.” But he acknowledged, “What we do need to do now is recognize what has changed with China, which is they are more aggressive. Their approach has changed, and so we have to change with that.” Cameron’s recent meeting with former US President Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago also highlighted his concerns about Trump’s "America first" isolationist tendencies. He emphasized his preference for an America that actively supports global peace and security, adding that the meeting with Trump was "very interesting because he is such an engaging person to talk to." The only time Cameron appeared uncertain was when discussing trans rights, critiquing Labour’s support for "people who just claim to be women but aren’t" as "amazing." Cameron's return to the political arena has been marked by his vocal criticism of Labour’s defense policies and his staunch support for increased defense spending. As the election approaches, his warnings and perspectives add a critical dimension to the ongoing debate about the UK’s national security and future direction. 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Popular Post soalbundy Posted Monday at 11:54 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 11:54 PM National security is the least of the worries of the general public who are contending with lower standards of living, inflation, rent increases, the breakdown of law and order, personal debt etc. Nobody feels personally threatened by China, Russia or Iran but do feel threatened by potential homelessness, unemployment and street violence. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Tuesday at 12:22 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:22 AM (edited) 28 minutes ago, soalbundy said: National security is the least of the worries of the general public who are contending with lower standards of living, inflation, rent increases, the breakdown of law and order, personal debt etc. Nobody feels personally threatened by China, Russia or Iran but do feel threatened by potential homelessness, unemployment and street violence. Yes, a classic problem for all governments in democracies: The People are nearsighted. (And - because of the constant need to get reelected - so, mostly, are their governments.) Edited Tuesday at 12:23 AM by mfd101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted Tuesday at 01:03 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:03 AM I'm still waiting to hear Starmer's position on just about everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DPKANKAN Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: I'm still waiting to hear Starmer's position on just about everything. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:33 AM 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: I'm still waiting to hear Starmer's position on just about everything. You’ll find out in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: You’ll find out in the 5th. Doubtful. He needs to figure it out himself first. I no longer doubt that his father made tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM Ridiculous scare-mongering from the party that put a Russian oligarch in the House of Lords, who’s own former PM slipped his security detail to party and get drunk with Russian secret service agents, that quashed the report into Russian interference in UK elections and blocked legislation to stop foreigners donating to British political parties. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted Tuesday at 05:08 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 05:08 AM 4 hours ago, JonnyF said: I'm still waiting to hear Starmer's position on just about everything. He is a "Sir" and a multimillionaire, and he is a champion of the working class. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted Tuesday at 06:24 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:24 AM 3 hours ago, DPKANKAN said: Ah Bell End...joins up with Mincing Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted Tuesday at 06:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:38 AM Just another hi-so blow hard. Should be the poster boy for: Loose Lips Sink Ships! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted Tuesday at 06:58 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:58 AM 1 hour ago, NoshowJones said: He is a "Sir" and a multimillionaire, and he is a champion of the working class. Especially if they are serving him Champers in Islington. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted Tuesday at 07:06 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:06 AM Get used to it Cameron you and your odious corrupt cabal are about to be wiped from the face of the earth Never in political history has one Tory government over the last 14 years caused such utter devastation to our country with the Johnson being most culpable Vile and lets not forget Cameron himself was responsible for the utter Brexit debacle that has destroyed so many lives 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 07:20 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:20 AM 42 minutes ago, rice555 said: Just another hi-so blow hard. Should be the poster boy for: Loose Lips Sink Ships! Is that loose ‘pig lips’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 07:21 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:21 AM 22 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Especially if they are serving him Champers in Islington. The green eyed shows up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted Tuesday at 07:26 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:26 AM 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The green eyed shows up again. Not a fan of Champagne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 09:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:38 AM (edited) The Tories are very clearly not good at recognizing the real threat to their power. First off they pumped fuel and oxygen into Reform UK, handing Farage and his mob of racists easy campaign talking points and in doing so ensuring every Tory MP would lose significant votes to Reform. Now they focus on Labour and ignore the boost tactical voting is giving the LibDems who now threaten the Tories chance of forming the Opposition after the election. The Tory master plan, wheel out the pig fancier, engage in some fear mongering and double down on ‘culture wars’. Edited Tuesday at 09:39 AM by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericbj Posted Tuesday at 10:14 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:14 AM When Cameron denounces Starmer as "a threat to National Security" what he means is that he could represent a threat to the mountains of assets acquired by the nation's billionaire 'elites', and the golden backhanders of their facilitators. The general public is milked by a complaisant parliamentary apparatus and civil service, ever ready to engineer wars and crises to justify heavier taxes (and austerity and other restrictions) on the general population, to fuel the speculations of largely tax-exempt magnates. As regards the "defence" of the UK in far-flung countries, Starmer is as hawkish as any. He can be counted upon to continue obeying the dictates of the US "Deep State", as reflected in the policies of the US Government. And he will have to follow the guidance of The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street if he wishes to retain his "position of power". So, billionaires, rest easy on your laurels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted Tuesday at 11:42 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:42 AM 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Ridiculous scare-mongering from the party that put a Russian oligarch in the House of Lords, who’s own former PM slipped his security detail to party and get drunk with Russian secret service agents, that quashed the report into Russian interference in UK elections and blocked legislation to stop foreigners donating to British political parties. All seems a tad insignificant compared to the last Labour government no? How many wars did Blair take us into between 1997 and 2010? How many lives were lost due to the warmongering actions of the last Labour government? How many wars have the Tories taken us into over the last 14 years? I cannot stand the Tories but they are borderline pacifists in comparison to what came before them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted Tuesday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:19 PM 1 hour ago, James105 said: All seems a tad insignificant compared to the last Labour government no? How many wars did Blair take us into between 1997 and 2010? How many lives were lost due to the warmongering actions of the last Labour government? How many wars have the Tories taken us into over the last 14 years? I cannot stand the Tories but they are borderline pacifists in comparison to what came before them. Actually, on a percentage basis the Tories in Parliament were more supportive of 2nd Iraq War than was Labour. To its credit, the Lib Dems were unanimously opposed, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_parliamentary_approval_for_the_invasion_of_Iraq#:~:text=The debate was held on,MPs voted against the invasion. I haven't bothered to look up the rest of those military actions, but I suspect the conservatives were more supportive of them, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted Tuesday at 01:48 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:48 PM Hollowing out the UK’s military and then accusing Labour of being the risk to national security. It’s that rightwing accusation confession thing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-general-election-armed-forces-starmer-b2571819.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted Tuesday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:52 PM Cameron is a dangerous man and being a warmonger is a greater threat than the Russians the Chinese or the Iranians or any one else that will not dance when the US pulls the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieKo Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM David Cameron is a prat. Just like most of the Tory and Labour politicians. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM On 7/2/2024 at 8:30 AM, Social Media said: Cameron was unequivocal in his concerns: “Keir Starmer is in danger of weakening Britain’s position and weakening Britain’s defenses. All in a way that’s completely unnecessary.” Cameron is hardly in a position to criticize Starmer, as he did nothing to improve the UK's defense forces that I'm aware of. Had Cameron done a better job Labour would not even be a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM 21 hours ago, DPKANKAN said: Ooh he's not wearing a tie. He must really be "one of us" then, a genuine "Man of the People". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted yesterday at 12:24 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:24 AM 23 hours ago, JonnyF said: I'm still waiting to hear Starmer's position on just about everything. Change Labour Party Manifesto 2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieKo Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM 20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Cameron is hardly in a position to criticize Starmer, as he did nothing to improve the UK's defense forces that I'm aware of. Had Cameron done a better job Labour would not even be a threat. 14 years of Tory rule and they have weakened the armed forces virtually to nothing. He is hardly in a position to criticise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM 27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Cameron is hardly in a position to criticize Starmer, as he did nothing to improve the UK's defense forces that I'm aware of. Had Cameron done a better job Labour would not even be a threat. Labour are not a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM 9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour are not a threat. ... as long as you're a left wing socialist who hates British culture, believes in mass immigration and all things Woke. Otherwise they are a massive threat to Britain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: ... as long as you're a left wing socialist who hates British culture, believes in mass immigration and all things Woke. Otherwise they are a massive threat to Britain. Because of course the Tories have got immigration under control. But they are championing ‘anti-woke’, so let’s see what the electorate think of their what they have to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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