Popular Post BangkokBernie Posted Friday at 08:11 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 08:11 AM As time goes on, I've noticed more about the negative aspects of many of the visitors I've come across in Thailand, either through personal interaction, through friends, or from things I've read in the media, a lot of it being posted here on AseanNow. Overall, it's pretty disconcerting to see so many different types. I would say these undesirables are either involved with alcohol abuse and public drunkenness, fraud and violent crime, predatory sex tourism and exploitation, drug use and trafficking, or cultural disrespect. All the alcohol abuse and public drunkenness is mostly prevalent in places like Pattaya and the tourist and nightlife centers of Bangkok, Phuket and Samui, and thankfully it is not all across the country. But we see many cases of excessive drinking leading to disruptive behavior (often directed towards locals), fights with locals and other foreigners, and destroying both public and private property. Then, the involvement of some foreigners in criminal activities is another significant and growing concern. From petty theft to serious offenses such as financial and internet fraud and violent assault, these actions strain local law enforcement agencies and threaten the general public safety. Sex tourism is also a big thing. I'm not referring to the many visitors that come to Thailand, follow the rules, and are well behaved patrons of the nightlife, but it's the one's participating in activities that involve human trafficking, underage women, and child exploitation that are the disease. This not only tarnishes the image of foreigners and labels them as sexual predators, but it also perpetuates a cycle of illegal and immoral activities that harm the most vulnerable segments of the local population. It then makes you wonder, despite the country's strict drug laws, there are still, as we see in the news so often, many who will take the risk and engage in illicit drug use and trafficking. This not only puts them at significant legal risk, but creates a host of social issues and problems, which contributes to the already negative perception of foreigners in the country. Lastly, the lack of respect for the local culture is also shocking. Love the local culture in the host country or not, one needs to show respect when they are a guest in that country, yet it’s so common to see visitors dressed inappropriately at religious sites, behaving loud and/or getting nude in public, and showing little regard for any local traditions. These behaviors not only harm the cultural venues, but shows a blatant disregard for the country. I think the presence of these groups in Thailand is undeniable. I guess we can only hope one day that things change and these types are no longer welcomed into Thailand. 2 5 5 2 2 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mekmong MICK Posted Friday at 11:02 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:02 AM I'm helping boost the desirable side and am a respectful unit 6 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted Friday at 11:12 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:12 AM I will ask AI if I should reply and revert! 1 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted Friday at 11:20 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:20 AM (edited) Not your country, not my country, up to Thailand what they do or don't do. Edited Friday at 11:21 AM by roo860 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted Friday at 11:34 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:34 AM Quote Confirmation bias (also confirmatory bias, myside bias,[a] or congeniality bias[2]) is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[3] People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias 1 1 2 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAFETY FIRST Posted Friday at 12:14 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 12:14 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: negative aspects of many of the visitors I've come across in Thailand, I see you've posted a few threads regarding this issue. I've also highlighted it over the years. These days I avoid all foreigners, you just don't know who the Nutjobs are, many sleepers out there, one could be one around the next corner. I just stick to socialising with family and close friends. Edited Friday at 12:18 PM by SAFETY FIRST 2 1 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ElwoodP Posted Friday at 12:25 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 12:25 PM Bickerering and insulting other nationalities is not allowed. Keep it civil please. 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingAPorn Posted Friday at 12:47 PM Share Posted Friday at 12:47 PM The foreigners either staying here full time or those who come in for a few weeks and suddenly feel rich with the exchange rate and behave like savages, do not respect others in public, give a horrific reputation to all the other foreigners in the country. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowellandrew Posted Friday at 11:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:28 PM It must be the op is hanging out in the wrong places, And making mates with the wrong types! 😂😂😂🐘🐘🐒😓👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted Friday at 11:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:39 PM straight to the comments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FruitPudding Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: All the alcohol abuse and public drunkenness is mostly prevalent in places like Pattaya and the tourist and nightlife centers of Bangkok, Phuket and Samui, and thankfully it is not all across the country. But we see many cases of excessive drinking leading to disruptive behavior (often directed towards locals), fights with locals and other foreigners, and destroying both public and private property. You should go live out in Isaan for a while. It's wild. 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: Then, the involvement of some foreigners in criminal activities is another significant and growing concern. From petty theft to serious offenses such as financial and internet fraud and violent assault, these actions strain local law enforcement agencies and threaten the general public safety. You think foreigners commit a lot of financial crimes here?? Ever tried getting a taxi to turn his meter on from the airport? Or any tourist area? 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: Sex tourism is also a big thing. I'm not referring to the many visitors that come to Thailand, follow the rules, and are well behaved patrons of the nightlife, but it's the one's participating in activities that involve human trafficking, underage women, and child exploitation that are the disease. This not only tarnishes the image of foreigners and labels them as sexual predators, but it also perpetuates a cycle of illegal and immoral activities that harm the most vulnerable segments of the local population. You should really see the local red light scene. Talk about underage?? For <deleted>'s sake. 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: It then makes you wonder, despite the country's strict drug laws, there are still, as we see in the news so often, many who will take the risk and engage in illicit drug use and trafficking. This not only puts them at significant legal risk, but creates a host of social issues and problems, which contributes to the already negative perception of foreigners in the country. Again, go to stay in a rural area if you want to see lots of yaba addicts. 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: Lastly, the lack of respect for the local culture is also shocking. Love the local culture in the host country or not, one needs to show respect when they are a guest in that country, yet it’s so common to see visitors dressed inappropriately at religious sites, behaving loud and/or getting nude in public, and showing little regard for any local traditions. The immigrants in London are calling for Sharia Law and you are worried about a farang wearing shorts to a temple? Again, go to Isaan. They use temple grounds for sexy coyote dancing shows. And there's plenty of drink n drugs involved, too. And it usually ends in some teenage lad in a coma from a gang beating. I've seen it all, Buddy! Your post stinks of someone who doesn't know the real Thailand. Edited Saturday at 12:03 AM by FruitPudding 3 2 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Bad behaving tourists are in every country , not only Thailand . If a country tries to attract as many tourists as possible ( Thailand ) , you get some that behave bad , that's normal . 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM 15 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: As time goes on, I've noticed more about the negative aspects of many of the visitors I've come across in Thailand, either through personal interaction, through friends, or from things I've read in the media, a lot of it being posted here on AseanNow. Overall, it's pretty disconcerting to see so many different types. I would say these undesirables are either involved with alcohol abuse and public drunkenness, fraud and violent crime, predatory sex tourism and exploitation, drug use and trafficking, or cultural disrespect. All the alcohol abuse and public drunkenness is mostly prevalent in places like Pattaya and the tourist and nightlife centers of Bangkok, Phuket and Samui, and thankfully it is not all across the country. But we see many cases of excessive drinking leading to disruptive behavior (often directed towards locals), fights with locals and other foreigners, and destroying both public and private property. Then, the involvement of some foreigners in criminal activities is another significant and growing concern. From petty theft to serious offenses such as financial and internet fraud and violent assault, these actions strain local law enforcement agencies and threaten the general public safety. Sex tourism is also a big thing. I'm not referring to the many visitors that come to Thailand, follow the rules, and are well behaved patrons of the nightlife, but it's the one's participating in activities that involve human trafficking, underage women, and child exploitation that are the disease. This not only tarnishes the image of foreigners and labels them as sexual predators, but it also perpetuates a cycle of illegal and immoral activities that harm the most vulnerable segments of the local population. It then makes you wonder, despite the country's strict drug laws, there are still, as we see in the news so often, many who will take the risk and engage in illicit drug use and trafficking. This not only puts them at significant legal risk, but creates a host of social issues and problems, which contributes to the already negative perception of foreigners in the country. Lastly, the lack of respect for the local culture is also shocking. Love the local culture in the host country or not, one needs to show respect when they are a guest in that country, yet it’s so common to see visitors dressed inappropriately at religious sites, behaving loud and/or getting nude in public, and showing little regard for any local traditions. These behaviors not only harm the cultural venues, but shows a blatant disregard for the country. I think the presence of these groups in Thailand is undeniable. I guess we can only hope one day that things change and these types are no longer welcomed into Thailand. So what you mean is now the foreigners are the kettle and you are the pot calling them black. Look at your own problems first. Do you think the foreigners came to Thailand looking to cause problems? Or perhaps instead they see it happening already within the Thai population? You have naked Thai men running in the streets. You have Monks stealing, deceiving, having sex with married women and little boys even killing people. You have teachers assaulting or raping little kids or selling them to provide sexual services for money. You have Thai attacking foreigners unprovoked. You have thais selling drugs in every city. You have Thais doing all and more than what you have said in your post. It rarely to never gets posted in social media the way they do for almost every foreigner incident. I do not think what you are saying has any justice in it at all. The only difference now is that social media is easily accessible and Thais like to show when a foreigner is caught doing something that the Thai do but do not want to see it done by a foreigner. Your question and post should instead be why are foreigners copying Thai behavior now and doing the same bad the Thais do normally every day? Why is it, when a foreigner is caught doing something, the news always blatantly say the netizens are outraged whereas if a thai is caught doing the same the news rarely says more than the report states. I do not post these things likely. It is simply an observation easily seen if one takes the time to read. One more note here. If there is a squabble between 2 thais. The police will not get involved. It will not get reported. It there is a squabble and a foreigner is involved. It becomes national news with an outcry by netizens. 3 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prison Mike Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Tourists are a pain in the @ss world wide. I think there might be more younger visitors than before which makes problems more common. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted Saturday at 01:13 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:13 AM 16 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: I would say these undesirables are either involved with alcohol abuse and public drunkenness, fraud and violent crime, predatory sex tourism and exploitation, drug use and trafficking, or cultural disrespect. But other than that, things are ok? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bradiston Posted Saturday at 01:14 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:14 AM 17 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: As time goes on, I've noticed more about the negative aspects of many of the visitors I've come across in Thailand, either through personal interaction, through friends, or from things I've read in the media, a lot of it being posted here on AseanNow. Overall, it's pretty disconcerting to see so many different types. I would say these undesirables are either involved with alcohol abuse and public drunkenness, fraud and violent crime, predatory sex tourism and exploitation, drug use and trafficking, or cultural disrespect. All the alcohol abuse and public drunkenness is mostly prevalent in places like Pattaya and the tourist and nightlife centers of Bangkok, Phuket and Samui, and thankfully it is not all across the country. But we see many cases of excessive drinking leading to disruptive behavior (often directed towards locals), fights with locals and other foreigners, and destroying both public and private property. Then, the involvement of some foreigners in criminal activities is another significant and growing concern. From petty theft to serious offenses such as financial and internet fraud and violent assault, these actions strain local law enforcement agencies and threaten the general public safety. Sex tourism is also a big thing. I'm not referring to the many visitors that come to Thailand, follow the rules, and are well behaved patrons of the nightlife, but it's the one's participating in activities that involve human trafficking, underage women, and child exploitation that are the disease. This not only tarnishes the image of foreigners and labels them as sexual predators, but it also perpetuates a cycle of illegal and immoral activities that harm the most vulnerable segments of the local population. It then makes you wonder, despite the country's strict drug laws, there are still, as we see in the news so often, many who will take the risk and engage in illicit drug use and trafficking. This not only puts them at significant legal risk, but creates a host of social issues and problems, which contributes to the already negative perception of foreigners in the country. Lastly, the lack of respect for the local culture is also shocking. Love the local culture in the host country or not, one needs to show respect when they are a guest in that country, yet it’s so common to see visitors dressed inappropriately at religious sites, behaving loud and/or getting nude in public, and showing little regard for any local traditions. These behaviors not only harm the cultural venues, but shows a blatant disregard for the country. I think the presence of these groups in Thailand is undeniable. I guess we can only hope one day that things change and these types are no longer welcomed into Thailand. I never meet these people. I don't drink. Don't take drugs. Don't go to bars. Don't go to Bua Khao, or Soi 6. I choose my friends wisely. It's that simple. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM 18 minutes ago, bradiston said: I never meet these people. I don't drink. Don't take drugs. Don't go to bars. Don't go to Bua Khao, or Soi 6. I choose my friends wisely. It's that simple. Nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted Saturday at 01:35 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:35 AM 1 hour ago, FruitPudding said: I've seen it all, Buddy! Your post stinks of someone who doesn't know the real Thailand. The people who make these kind of "observations" typically know nothing about Thailand or Thai people. They're still in the holiday mode of thinking that Thailand is the promised land of peace and love and that Thai people are kind, friendly, relaxed and honest Buddhists who are highly conservative and traditional, while the Evil White ManTM is taking advantage of their good nature and perverting the innocence of Thailand. 1 1 4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ignore it Posted Saturday at 01:42 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:42 AM I love a supercillious post in the morning. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fondue zoo Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM 11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: while the Evil White ManTM is taking advantage of their good nature and perverting the innocence of Thailand. God knows I try, but it's so much work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM 5 minutes ago, ignore it said: I love a supercillious post in the morning. Smells like...? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted Saturday at 01:49 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:49 AM 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: Smells like...? White Honky business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradiston Posted Saturday at 01:55 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:55 AM 8 minutes ago, fondue zoo said: God knows I try, but it's so much work. Well, somebody's got to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted Saturday at 01:57 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:57 AM Some people just suck, no matter where you go. They sucked before you got there, and they'll keep sucking long after you're gone. All you can do is try not to suck as much yourself. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted Saturday at 02:04 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:04 AM Hmmm… there’s only 2 things that smell like fish and one of those is fish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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newbee2022 Posted Saturday at 02:56 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:56 AM 18 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: As time goes on, I've noticed more about the negative aspects of many of the visitors I've come across in Thailand, either through personal interaction, through friends, or from things I've read in the media, a lot of it being posted here on AseanNow. Overall, it's pretty disconcerting to see so many different types. I would say these undesirables are either involved with alcohol abuse and public drunkenness, fraud and violent crime, predatory sex tourism and exploitation, drug use and trafficking, or cultural disrespect. All the alcohol abuse and public drunkenness is mostly prevalent in places like Pattaya and the tourist and nightlife centers of Bangkok, Phuket and Samui, and thankfully it is not all across the country. But we see many cases of excessive drinking leading to disruptive behavior (often directed towards locals), fights with locals and other foreigners, and destroying both public and private property. Then, the involvement of some foreigners in criminal activities is another significant and growing concern. From petty theft to serious offenses such as financial and internet fraud and violent assault, these actions strain local law enforcement agencies and threaten the general public safety. Sex tourism is also a big thing. I'm not referring to the many visitors that come to Thailand, follow the rules, and are well behaved patrons of the nightlife, but it's the one's participating in activities that involve human trafficking, underage women, and child exploitation that are the disease. This not only tarnishes the image of foreigners and labels them as sexual predators, but it also perpetuates a cycle of illegal and immoral activities that harm the most vulnerable segments of the local population. It then makes you wonder, despite the country's strict drug laws, there are still, as we see in the news so often, many who will take the risk and engage in illicit drug use and trafficking. This not only puts them at significant legal risk, but creates a host of social issues and problems, which contributes to the already negative perception of foreigners in the country. Lastly, the lack of respect for the local culture is also shocking. Love the local culture in the host country or not, one needs to show respect when they are a guest in that country, yet it’s so common to see visitors dressed inappropriately at religious sites, behaving loud and/or getting nude in public, and showing little regard for any local traditions. These behaviors not only harm the cultural venues, but shows a blatant disregard for the country. I think the presence of these groups in Thailand is undeniable. I guess we can only hope one day that things change and these types are no longer welcomed into Thailand. When you look on those emojis you got there are still a lot of undesirables here. Unfortunately! 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmB Posted Saturday at 03:10 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:10 AM 18 hours ago, BangkokBernie said: cultural disrespect. Plenty of that on display on this forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted Saturday at 03:30 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 03:30 AM You raise a valid point and there's no question that the quality of tourists and and some expats have declined significantly over the years. That's Thailand's own fault, they have opened themselves up to anyone and everyone in a desperate bid to increase the tourism numbers. As I've said many times before quantity over quality only works if you're selling $2 items at a swap meet. The bozos that run this country have no concept of that and they possess not even a nanogram of wisdom. In addition they've invited in the Russians with very favorable treatment and it's likely that the Russians have brought with them an element of the Bratva, since a very significant portion of Russians who are now residing in Thailand are involved in organized crime or crime of some sort, that's just who they are and where they come from. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted Saturday at 03:43 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 03:43 AM You've been on the forum for 1 week and 1 day and have 6 posts - and you are an expert on "undesirables in Thailand." Really - if it bothers you so much - book a flight out of the nearest airport and find a country with expats more to your liking. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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