JD Vance, under Labour, UK may now be the First Islamist Country to get a Nuclear Weapon

[Kinnock]

9 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Both the UK and USA have similar number of muslims - roughly around 3.7 million people. 

 

Totally idiotic comments. 

Out of 500 million in one country and 69 million in the other ....

[RayC]

The US will be the butt of a joke from the UK shortly: She's called Liz Truss. 

[retarius]

Don't worry JD the Brits have to get the codes from American before they can fire any of their nukes. I wonder why they are spending over 1000 billion pounds to update the weapons when they can't even fire them independently. 

[DonniePeverley]

3 hours ago, john donson said:

 

slight difference in total % , don't you think, if uk has 80 million and usa 320 - 340 ?

 

 

Makes no difference. Still the same number. 

 

 

Edited July 17 by DonniePeverley

[GroveHillWanderer]

57 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Out of 500 million in one country and 69 million in the other ....

Which country has a population of 500 million? Certainly not the US.

[DonniePeverley]

9 hours ago, susanlea said:

UK sold their soul.

 

 

The UK looted and pillaged many muslim countries - including Malaysia, India (strong muslim population), then used those populations (especially from India) to help them during both world wars. Then wanted them to come to England to help rebuild the country. 

 

Spare me the nonsene. 

 

The problems with the UK aren't muslims. It's the mismanagment of the country by a horrific government, financial crisis, inflationary causes like Ukraine war, covid etc 

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

The UK looted and pillaged many muslim countries - including Malaysia, India (strong muslim population), then used those populations (especially from India) to help them during both world wars. Then wanted them to come to England to help rebuild the country. 

 

Spare me the nonsene. 

 

The problems with the UK aren't muslims. It's the mismanagment of the country by a horrific government, financial crisis, inflationary causes like Ukraine war, covid etc 

 

How far back to you want to go in the tit for tat debate.

 

Weren't Muslims invading Europe for hundreds of years before the crusades.

 

 

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Don't worry JD the Brits have to get the codes from American before they can fire any of their nukes. I wonder why they are spending over 1000 billion pounds to update the weapons when they can't even fire them independently. 

 

Potentially the next thing we might have to pay for. The US government might decide to levy a fee to access the systems needed to fire Trident, or state Europe, including the UK, needs to pony up to pay their fair share of the US nuclear shield, transforming NATO from an Alliance to a protection racket.

[nauseus]

21 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Potentially the next thing we might have to pay for. The US government might decide to levy a fee to access the systems needed to fire Trident, or state Europe, including the UK, needs to pony up to pay their fair share of the US nuclear shield, transforming NATO from an Alliance to a protection racket.

 

You got it half right.

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Top bants from Mr Vance.

 

I'm starting to like him. 

 

   It wasn't banter though, he was being serious 

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, Marsupienemi said:

What he said is a warning about the situation in GB and in general in Europe.

Sweden who was the most peaceful country with the highest standard of living in Europe is on fire since these fluxes of "refugees". I recently saw a report in England with demonstrations by Afghans with known terrorist leaders, who each time provoke the police a little more in order to trigger clashes. Germany, France, the Netherlands, Denmark etc. are in the same situation. This remark is a way of sounding the alarm.

 

Agree, a warning for the future, not right now. I also think the post headline to be misleading and that Vance's comments could have been worded much better.

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, Marsupienemi said:

I recently saw a report in England with demonstrations by Afghans with known terrorist leaders

 

   Could you provide a link to that claim ?

[DonniePeverley]

57 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

How far back to you want to go in the tit for tat debate.

 

Weren't Muslims invading Europe for hundreds of years before the crusades.

 

 

 

You wanted to explain immigration.

 

It was the British who needed the indian population in both world wars, then wanted them to come to the UK to work after the war. This is only going back 60-80 years. So there will be family links to have a larger population of that community. 

 

Eg, France basically looted and colonised alot of Africa, so you will see many links to African nations France. 

 

It's all a load of nonsense anyways. Trump didn't ban any muslims like he said anyways, is all a bit of xenophobic baiting. 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, retarius said:

Don't worry JD the Brits have to get the codes from American before they can fire any of their nukes. I wonder why they are spending over 1000 billion pounds to update the weapons when they can't even fire them independently. 

 

The UK can fire its deterrent independently.

 

The current major expense is for 4 Dreadnought class submarines to replace the existing Vanguard boats. They are expensive but do not cost 1000 Billion. More like 32B.

Edited July 17 by nauseus

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, susanlea said:

Allies 

America is 50x stronger than the UK. Saved their asses in ww2. 

Yes, I served alongside our American allies in two different campaigns around the turn of the century. On both occasions they were probably more dangerous than the enemy (Iraq). Certainly the most thought provoking and chilling announcement at any briefing or Orders Group was " close air support will be provided by the US Air Force. We had procedures known as "danger close", the US had "Ya Hoo let those red arsed babies fly" ( a quote I actually heard over the radio) often followed by "oh **** they've done it again"! Poorly trained and over reliant on technology, lacking in flexibility at lower levels. Lots of "Gucci" kit though.

 

As for WWii; we had been fighting for two and a half years before you got involved. Mass bombing, a desperate battle to keep the Atlantic convoy routes open. Yes you supplied a lot of kit, for which we payed cash, and then when the countries cash ( and gold reserves) had been used up, you gave us credit, which we finally finished paying back in 2006.

 

The US played a significant part in the allied victory over Germany. Not exactly saving our ass though!

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, susanlea said:

Allies 

America is 50x stronger than the UK. Saved their asses in ww2. 

Yes, I served alongside our American allies in two different campaigns around the turn of the century. On both occasions they were probably more dangerous than the enemy (Iraq). Certainly the most thought provoking and chilling announcement at any briefing or Orders Group was " close air support will be provided by the US Air Force. We had procedures known as "danger close", the US had "Ya Hoo let those red arsed babies fly" ( a quote I actually heard over the radio) often followed by "oh **** they've done it again"! Poorly trained and over reliant on technology, lacking in flexibility at lower levels. Lots of "Gucci" kit though.

 

As for WWii; we had been fighting for two and a half years before you got involved. Mass bombing, a desperate battle to keep the Atlantic convoy routes open. Yes you supplied a lot of kit, for which we payed cash, and then when the countries cash ( and gold reserves) had been used up, you gave us credit, which we finally finished paying back in 2006.

 

The US played a significant part in the allied victory over Germany. Not exactly saving our ass though!

[Chomper Higgot]

55 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

As for WWii; we had been fighting for two and a half years before you got involved.

I suggest you stop getting your history of WW2 from the output of Ealing Studious.

 

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Watawattana said:

 

Love the range of numbers for the US population.  Who knows the numbers walking through the southern or northern borders, so who knows the real population!

Yep.

 

Who knows how many Canadians have crossed the open northern border.

[JonnyF]

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It wasn't banter though, he was being serious 

 

No it was tongue in cheek.

 

It was a dig at the UK for failing to protect it's borders, it's culture and ultimately the welfare of it's citizens. Like most jokes, it has an element of truth behind it. 

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you stop getting your history of WW2 from the output of Ealing Studious.

 

What on earth are you talking about.

 

World War 2 started in September 1939.

 

The USA joined in December 1941

[Walker88]

Ah...excuse me, J.D.....but....

 

P A K I S T A N

 

The official name is The Islamic Republic of Pakistan

 

They have nukes. Their nukes are actually protected better than the nukes in neighboring India.

[billd766]

On 7/17/2024 at 11:44 AM, Watawattana said:

 

Yeah, mostly true.  Reckon the Soviet Union did a lot of UK ass saving too, and so did the other 20+ nations who fought on the side of the Allies.  I'm sure the Brits will be forever grateful for the US sacrifices, and for the sacrifices from all the other nations.  Except their ex-Prime Minister, who left the latest D-Day commemoration early for self-serving reasons...

What a shame that you forgot to mention that the Soviet Union was a German ally right up until 1942, when Hitler stabbed them in the back and declared war on the Soviet Union.

 

quote "Reckon the Soviet Union did a lot of UK ass saving too".

 

Can you explain how you came to that conclusion?

 

Especially in the light of the UK and the US supplying the Russians with weapons, vehicles, uniforms, medical supplies, food, oil etc through the Artic convoys and the Arab Gulf routes.

 

Or how Allied seamen whose ships were sunk were interned by Russia, or how Allied aircrew were also interned by Russia when their aircraft were shot down or crashed while attacking German targets?

[Nick Carter icp]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

No it was tongue in cheek.

 

It was a dig at the UK for failing to protect it's borders, it's culture and ultimately the welfare of it's citizens. Like most jokes, it has an element of truth behind it. 

 

   He was genuinely stating that the UK might become an Islamic Country 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He was genuinely stating that the UK might become an Islamic Country 

Well he was saying stuff.

 

Whether or not he even believed what he was saying is a different matter.

[allanos]

10 hours ago, billd766 said:

What a shame that you forgot to mention that the Soviet Union was a German ally right up until 1942, when Hitler stabbed them in the back and declared war on the Soviet Union.

 

quote "Reckon the Soviet Union did a lot of UK ass saving too".

 

Can you explain how you came to that conclusion?

 

Especially in the light of the UK and the US supplying the Russians with weapons, vehicles, uniforms, medical supplies, food, oil etc through the Artic convoys and the Arab Gulf routes.

 

Or how Allied seamen whose ships were sunk were interned by Russia, or how Allied aircrew were also interned by Russia when their aircraft were shot down or crashed while attacking German targets?

Perhaps he is alluding to the fact that, after Hitler's betrayal, the Russians kept the German forces split. The Nazis were bogged down on the Eastern Front unable to commit all of their forces to Western Europe, and where, potentially, the success of the Dunkirk landings and subsequent offensive might have had a diametrically different outcome. Some 20 million Russians lost their lives in defence of their Motherland; German troop losses amounted to hundreds of thousands of men, not to mention the volume of materiel lost or destroyed.

[Neeranam]

On 7/17/2024 at 7:17 AM, DonniePeverley said:

Both the UK and USA have similar number of muslims - roughly around 3.7 million people. 

 

Totally idiotic comments. 

US is very anti Muslim. 

BTW, there are the same number of Jews as Muslims in USA but guess how many Muslims are in Government. 

 

https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/islamophobia-in-america/

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well he was saying stuff.

 

Whether or not he even believed what he was saying is a different matter.

 

   You seem to be suggesting that he was lying 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

US is very anti Muslim. 

BTW, there are the same number of Jews as Muslims in USA but guess how many Muslims are in Government. 

 

https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/islamophobia-in-america/

Oh no!

Not again!

"The Jews" are too successful!

Gotta do something about the Jewish problem.

Where have we heard that before?

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Oh no!

Not again!

"The Jews" are too successful!

Gotta do something about the Jewish problem.

Where have we heard that before?

 

   Muslims should replace Jews in Israel

Muslims should replace Jews in USA politics .

Seems to be a pattern developing here 

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, allanos said:

Perhaps he is alluding to the fact that, after Hitler's betrayal, the Russians kept the German forces split. The Nazis were bogged down on the Eastern Front unable to commit all of their forces to Western Europe, and where, potentially, the success of the Dunkirk landings and subsequent offensive might have had a diametrically different outcome. Some 20 million Russians lost their lives in defence of their Motherland; German troop losses amounted to hundreds of thousands of men, not to mention the volume of materiel lost or destroyed.

 

Diametric dribble.

 

The allies landed successfully in Normandy, France, in 1944.

 

Dunkirk was the site of the British and allied evacuation of France, four years earlier.