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Hong Kong policeman’s fatal fall from baht bus sparks safety outcry

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2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Classic "nanny" stater... what happened to self awareness?

'Self awareness'! Yes, for the majority, but as we all know, there is always one!

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  • bkkcanuck8
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    The fact that the driver did not notice someone falling of the baht bus steps onto the pavement - seem plausible (especially since he did not notify the driver that he was leaving 🤣).  When you see pe

  • scubascuba3
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    500k death compensation is nothing for a foreigner

  • Skipalongcassidy
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    Darwin rules the world... let's make all riders put on helmets before boarding a baht bus that might keep the idiots safer.

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3 hours ago, 2long said:

It says 'per policy' so it could possibly be even less than 500k if other claims have happened.

I'm not sure though.

Riding on the back step is illegal; if I were the assessor for the Insurance company. I'd mention this.

I still maintain he stepped off the moving bus, that was going at a constant speed, he never rang the bell either.

2 hours ago, mfd101 said:

I find it hard to believe that a grown man, standing at the back and HANGING ON, would be unable to withstand the centrifugal forces as the vehicle 'sped away'.

I have looked at the vid many times and in other reports they agree the bus did not speed away or slow down it was going at a constant speed. He stepped of IMO.

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I'm sure the other passengers would have let him know

Yet no indication that they did, like repeated ringing the stop bell. 

4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Darwin rules the world... let's make all riders put on helmets before boarding a baht bus that might keep the idiots safer.

Helmets are rarely donned on motorcycles and no one is "made to", tho occasional fines are dolled out. Never gonna happen on baht busses. 

4 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

I don't know why he would be standing on the stairs - since the vehicle was empty, and I don't see how he would have been ejected from the seat.

 

People do like to stand on the back step even when the bus has spare seating......human nature...but it is a little odd that he has fallen with his head toward the direction of travel. 

How can you fall out of a baht bus? Not possible even with the slightest caution.....:coffee1:

Looking at the position of his body it suggests he has attempted to jump off whilst the bus is still moving.

 

I can't see how else he could end up in the position......back to the ground and head in the direction of travel.

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Strangely, after being a regular in Thailand for 35 years I have never heard of any serious accidents with passengers on these baht busses! They go slow, you give a signal and they stop. What is the problem? Anyone heard of serious accidents before?? These busses are important for the flow of people! Do not mess with it! 

3 hours ago, bob smith said:

Driver should be charged with manslaughter, 15-20 in the slammer.

 

no questions asked.

 

bob.

BS! You do not know what you talk about!

1 minute ago, harryviking said:

BS! You do not know what you talk about!

How so?

 

bob.

4 hours ago, loong said:

You are obviously privy to more information than the rest of us.
Kindly relate what you know that makes you believe that the person was an idiot.

    Watch the video. The rider either fell off or tried to jump off while the baht bus was moving at a normal rate of speed.  Sorry, but an accident entirely the rider's fault.

Driver catching up on line or face book or trimming his moustache whilst driving 

Rip Hong Kong cop !

 

 

4 hours ago, pattjock said:

I'm not sure if he was standing on the step behind the bahtbus when he fell off, but that is very likely. It has been illegal for passengers to use these steps while the bahtbus is moving for a long time now, but as with most Thai laws this has never been enforced.

20 years everyone rides the steps 

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Before coming to LOS all should be aware of this: Come at your own risk. 

Do not expect modern safety or in some cases any safety standards at all. When riding in back of a Song Tao always grab hold of something.  Recently I was in the back of a taxi where the driver was wearing not one but 5 amulets. I ensured my seat belt was secured. 

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3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Before coming to LOS all should be aware of this: Come at your own risk. 

Do not expect modern safety or in some cases any safety standards at all. When riding in back of a Song Tao always grab hold of something.  Recently I was in the back of a taxi where the driver was wearing not one but 5 amulets. I ensured my seat belt was secured. 

 

There is almost certainly an inverse relationship between IQ and the number amulets a person possesses.

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

The driver said he didn't know when the guy fell out the back .... 

Those roundabouts can be a bit tricky at high speed ....

He wasn't negotiating a roundabout, neither was he driving at high speed.

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

BS, that's their job, hardly anyone ever gets on and off a baht bus without paying, he knew what happened.

I'm sure the other passengers would have let him know, and if the baht bus was empty he would have surely known.

He got off the bus whilst it was moving, not when it was stopped for the passenger to pay.

They should all be fitted with rear cameras so the driver can check passengers at all times.

4 hours ago, loong said:
5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Darwin rules the world... let's make all riders put on helmets before boarding a baht bus that might keep the idiots safer.

You are obviously privy to more information than the rest of us.
Kindly relate what you know that makes you believe that the person was an idiot.

"Kindly relate what you know that makes you believe that the person was an idiot".

He stepped off a moving bus, that's not exactly clever...as he proved.

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5 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The fact that the driver did not notice someone falling of the baht bus steps onto the pavement - seem plausible (especially since he did not notify the driver that he was leaving 🤣).  When you see people getting on and off all the time, you don't register if they are there or not... you only register if someone rings to leave... you stop... and wait for payment.  Seems like a freak accident to me, and a bit of the passenger not being responsible for his own safety.  I don't know why he would be standing on the stairs - since the vehicle was empty, and I don't see how he would have been ejected from the seat.   Sorry, but you can not protect people from their own stupidity without making the experience worse for everyone else.

End of story - well said.  This is reality and it is why I hope Thailand does not fall for the 'Nanny State' mentality and try to stop this ever happening again.  Doing that in the west has resulted in so many things in people's lives being 'controlled and managed' by incompetent Government bureaucracies that continue to grow and cost a fortune to staff with useless people who are not accountable to the people for their actions (and who cannot be sacked).  The main reason I left my home country was the Nanny State it had become - it is now run by a bunch of Karen's forcing people to not do what they dont want them to do, and forcing them to do what they do want them to do. 

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4 hours ago, 2baht said:

Geniuses. as a rule, don't ride or drive baht busses on Beach Road! If you know one, let me know!

Nor do they get on a motorbike taxi or ride any type of motorbike in Thailand.

38 minutes ago, harryviking said:

BS! You do not know what you talk about!

Agreed. And IMO it is best to block/ignore trolls. Just saying. 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

This incident has prompted swift action from local police.

Swift ? always the swift something or other😀Vagueness on the action part. But be assured it will be swift.

10 minutes ago, 10baht said:

Swift ? always the swift something or other😀Vagueness on the action part. But be assured it will be swift.

Yep. it's always "swift" because they "rush" and arrive "promptly" at these incidents that always leave the local community "in a state of shock" .....blah/blah 😁

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

That's what foreigners who die mean to Thailand...

Less than that when you consider 500K is the Maximum possible payout, likely the average is far less.

Just now, mancub said:

Yep. it's always "swift" because they "rush" and arrive "promptly" at these incidents that always leave the local community "in a state of shock" .....blah/blah 😁

 

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