Thai PM Dismisses US Criticism of Move Forward Party Dissolution

[Captain Flack]

I have removed several off topic reported posts, please this topic is not about Trump.

 

I have also removed a troll post using juvenile derogatory nicknames.

[Jackbenimble]

3 hours ago, DjSilver08 said:

When compared, Thailand is still in the Dark Ages, especially mentally.

 

The only way to embrace the future is to open up to other ideas that are not Thai.

 

Just have a look at Thai Air, it's going bankrupt over and over again,  because of Thais with Thai inferior mentality. 

Thais dont have an inferiority complex? My experience tells me quite the opposite actually. They naively believe they are the best at everything. 

[happysoul]

PM has probably never learned diplomacy. But if he has balls (I know all is surgery possible here but still should have some), he should express his thinking when sitting at the next negotiation table with the USA regarding the F-16. I'm sure it will make negotiations easier !

[jwest10]

3 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

The one who certainly is meaningless ... is him .

He is a clown in a government of muppets , that's all .

 

 

We have all seen how this works out .

Now it really is time that Thailand is punished for eliminating , dissolving the leading opposition party for the 2nd time !

In the international community of real democratic countries , Thailand is a pariah state and should not be granted any right or ' seat ' .

Treat them for what they are : an autocratic country that invented a pseudo democracy for reputational purposes only .

Even in the so-called Democratic countries USA and UK are certainly not and yes Thailand once again ignoring the General Election results. 
Yes, USA and Blighty are not democratic and the apathy regarding the latter is insignificant. 

Edited August 9 by jwest10

[jwest10]

2 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

" Thavisin expressed confidence that the Thai populace understands and supports this stance "

 

That is the imaginable top of cynism and hypocrisy .

They stole the election . Dissolved the winning party that 14 million thai voters voted for , and he thinks that the thai population will accept and understand that ?

WTF ... this country needs a revolution . French style .

 

Same as many others USA and  UK but not yet again

[Ebumbu]

Why have elections at all? Because it looks good and you can always nullify them later. A win win. 

[Boedog]

Delusional till the end, we make the rules, we can change the rules, we can even make up new rules if the old ones don't help, don't tell us how to run our corrupt system we know exactly want we are doing, any threat ,use be silenced and eliminated 

[brianthainess]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Very familiar wording in North Korea, China, Russia, Myanmar.......🤔

[Sydebolle]

I'm not a friend of the official US out of Washington DC but in all fairness, America did not criticize but "expressed concern". From their point of view understandable, but uncalled for ... to start with. Yet it is unwise to pour more oil into a fire which gets bigger and bigger by the hour .........  

[Geir Rasch]

Of course Thais are sovereign to decide their own political path, but don't misuse the word and call it democracy! A system where people can vote and the same votes are ignored is not democratic! 

[Aleksey75]

Tho clown will be dismissed himself soon. What words will we hear from him then?

[crazykopite]

Can we honestly believe that he will be kicked out of office next week not a chance brown envelopes come to mind Today MF will become a new party under a different name registration for membership begins on Saturday I expect 1,000s upon 1,000s to register and come the next election all the dinosaur parties will be wiped out and a new chapter in Thailand will take place  

[818Pilot]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The US expressed concern that dissolving the Move Forward Party undermines Thailand’s democratic progress and conflicts with the aspirations of the Thai people for a robust democratic future. 

Sadly, its a very accurate statement.

 

 

 

[anfh]

Amazing that , if you dont agree with opposition party, you can just ban them all from politics forever. Who said Thailand is no longer ruled by a dictator ???

[ujayujay]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

 

The Prime Minister of Thailand, Srettha Thavisin, has brushed off criticism from the United States regarding the Constitutional Court’s decision to dissolve the Move Forward Party, stating it is “meaningless” and emphasising Thailand’s sovereignty.

 

In a statement today, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin offered reassurance to the Thai public by asserting that Thailand’s sovereignty ensures the country manages its own political affairs and democratic processes.

 

He remarked, “We, as a sovereign nation, have our own way of developing our politics and democracy. So, what the US says about us is meaningless.” Thavisin expressed confidence that the Thai populace understands and supports this stance, emphasising that no external entity will dictate Thailand's internal matters.

 

However, Thavisin nuanced his response by suggesting that perhaps the term "interference" was too strong, and that the United States might merely be extending advice. His comments come on the heels of a statement from the US Department of State, which criticised the Thai court’s decision.

 

The US expressed concern that dissolving the Move Forward Party undermines Thailand’s democratic progress and conflicts with the aspirations of the Thai people for a robust democratic future. 

 

The US statement urged Thailand to make efforts to ensure inclusive political participation and to safeguard democracy and freedoms of association and expression.

 

In addition, Prime Minister Srettha addressed concerns over the potential for unrest in response to the court’s ruling. He indicated he had been in discussions with Deputy National Police Commissioner Pol Gen Kittiratt Phanphet. Srettha noted, “He told me that there were some symbolic gatherings, which were peaceful.”

 

As Thailand navigates its political path amid international scrutiny, Thavisin’s stance underscores a commitment to sovereignty and internal decision-making, while potentially acknowledging the international community's interest in the country's democratic health.

 

Srettha Thavisin. Photo courtesy: Srettha Thavisin via TNN

 

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“We, as a sovereign nation, have our own way of developing our politics and democracy .......Everything ok in this Comment, except Democracy

[vivananahuahin]

and now no Tesla in Thailand 

Desperate.

 

Edited August 9 by vivananahuahin

[brianthainess]

Stoopid Foreigners they don't understand Thainess.

 

[stix40]

UK not getting close to civil war 

Jeez  

Give Twitter facefeckx and Tik tok a rest ! 

[samtam]

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Good luck in future negotiating talks about trade or security...

 

...or becoming a financial hub

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

That's not a fair question since it should really be addressed to citizens of Thailand.

 

As to Thailand the masses have turned out before to protest the greedy selfish elites that have made Thailand one of the most unequal societies on earth, risking and in some cases losing their lives - but it was long ago.

 

I really don't know how the progressive elements in Thailand are now prepared to challenge in the courageous manner of their predecessors.To be frank there's not much sign of it.

 

Yet the same enemies are plain in view, huge and hateful. As Thomas Jefferson said, " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

 

There is something very distasteful about foreigners calling on Thais to take dangerous action, so I will avoid that. But the way forward is I think very clear since it's obvious the ruling elites are determined to crush democracy.

 

I agree with your sentiment, but the blood of tyrants has never splashed the streets of Thailand.  They either carry on as they were, or leave the country to return later.  Indeed, one of Thailand's darkest moments, in October 1976, was due to a tyrant (Thanom Kittikachorn, who was Prime Minister during the 1973 uprising), leaving the country for a while before coming back to an open armed welcome by certain figures. The fact that we can't say more than that here shows just how ineffective the protests, and subsequent beatings and massacre, were.  Ironically, given this thread, that same tyrant later became Prime Minister again, and was heavily supported by the US, as a stalwart in their fight against communism.  (As he was during his first term).

 

Then roll forward to 1992 and Black May.  200,000 protestors in Bangkok, resulting in around 100 recognised deaths, 700 badly injured and 175 missing.  And, despite numerous governments since, these missing have never been accounted for or their remains found.  Tyrant deaths? Zero.  Then, four years afterwards, many of the elite side were back in government, and now the corruption continues, the elite continue doing what they like, and votes still count for nothing - unless they're for the "right" people. 

 

It's all too easy for some to come on here (not you), claiming Thais are cowards, their mentality isn't up to it, they don't know their history (quite ironic, since those who write such comments sure don't know Thai history), blah blah blah, but I'd suggest that Thais are all too aware of their history, and have seen multiple protests over the years viciously crushed, with no gains what so ever.  It's one thing to die for your cause; it's quite another to step into the path of a machine gun and be killed, only for the shooter, and his entire chain of command - up to the very top, to carry on as before.  Like a ten ton truck squashing a frog on the road and careering on with no change in speed or direction.  What does that frog in particular, and the frog population in general, gain from it?

 

Until the Thai people are given hope that their protests, and perhaps, ultimate sacrifice, will actually cause change, then nothing will change.

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

 

I agree with your sentiment, but the blood of tyrants has never splashed the streets of Thailand.  They either carry on as they were, or leave the country to return later.  Indeed, one of Thailand's darkest moments, in October 1976, was due to a tyrant (Thanom Kittikachorn, who was Prime Minister during the 1973 uprising), leaving the country for a while before coming back to an open armed welcome by certain figures. The fact that we can't say more than that here shows just how ineffective the protests, and subsequent beatings and massacre, were.  Ironically, given this thread, that same tyrant later became Prime Minister again, and was heavily supported by the US, as a stalwart in their fight against communism.  (As he was during his first term).

 

Then roll forward to 1992 and Black May.  200,000 protestors in Bangkok, resulting in around 100 recognised deaths, 700 badly injured and 175 missing.  And, despite numerous governments since, these missing have never been accounted for or their remains found.  Tyrant deaths? Zero.  Then, four years afterwards, many of the elite side were back in government, and now the corruption continues, the elite continue doing what they like, and votes still count for nothing - unless they're for the "right" people. 

 

It's all too easy for some to come on here (not you), claiming Thais are cowards, their mentality isn't up to it, they don't know their history (quite ironic, since those who write such comments sure don't know Thai history), blah blah blah, but I'd suggest that Thais are all too aware of their history, and have seen multiple protests over the years viciously crushed, with no gains what so ever.  It's one thing to die for your cause; it's quite another to step into the path of a machine gun and be killed, only for the shooter, and his entire chain of command - up to the very top, to carry on as before.  Like a ten ton truck squashing a frog on the road and careering on with no change in speed or direction.  What does that frog in particular, and the frog population in general, gain from it?

 

Until the Thai people are given hope that their protests, and perhaps, ultimate sacrifice, will actually cause change, then nothing will change.

 

 

One of the major problems, as I see it, is once you rise above the level of Isaan farmer, refuse collector, motorbike taxi driver .......being morally bankrupt is not seen as a negative trait, but something to which most aspire.

 

Corruption, nepotism, blackmail, bribery, extortion are not frowned upon..... It is just how things are.

 

From a situation like that you cannot rise above the dross to achieve anything.....hence the demise of the MFP.

 

 

[Bobydog]

From the picture, it looks like PM is partaking in too much local product, that might also explain the decision to dismiss MPF... 

[candide]

7 minutes ago, Bobydog said:

From the picture, it looks like PM is partaking in too much local product, that might also explain the decision to dismiss MPF... 

The Judiciary doesn't get orders from governments, it gets orders from somewhere else.....

[Mavideol]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

He remarked, “We, as a sovereign nation, have our own way of developing our politics and democracy. So, what the US says about us is meaningless.”

says the NON-elected PM "puppet"... Thailand and democracy, 2 words that don't go well together

[Felton Jarvis]

3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

Unfair criticism of Thai people.

History shows that mass protesters end up in gaol (without bail) or shot.

Would you really do as you say?

By Thai reckoning, ALL criticism of Thai people is "unfair". They see themselves as above all criticism. They need to learn to bend the knee to the professional conquerors of the West. They had to buy us off to remain unconquered or else they would be a modern Monarchy in the mold of the UK.

[spidermike007]

6 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

They prepare for a military invention if there are protests in the streets on Bangkok .

They are ready to kill .

TIT .

I will make a most optimistic prediction. There will never be another military coup here. Think about it. The moral authority that backed the coups in the past, is long gone. And the army does not have the guts to wage war against their people, Burmese style. 

 

It won't happen. The Thai families of the soldiers would never tolerate their sons murdering innocent Thais. The moms would say "you murder one Thai, and you are never welcome in our family home again. Listen to me. Do not do this". And you would have massive army defections. Who will fight at that point? Not the cowardly generals? They would flee into exile with their billions, and the army might collapse, or give up, at that point.

 

One of the fundamental differences, is the Thai soldiers are not facing the level of desperation the young Burmese are. The poverty here is not as grinding as it is in Burma. I do not think it could be sustained, if the fools started it. Thailand is a very different culture than Burma, on a dozen significant levels. And the youth now, are very different people than they were during past coups, which were violent. and were supported with a sort of moral authority, which is gone now. 

 

Plus all the cowardly Thai Army has to do is look at what's happening in Burma right now, with the their toxic abs genocidal army getting overrun by resistance fighters, and they would not move forward. 

[trainman34014]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

so sad

 

Wa##KER

 

an educated leader which is exactly what Thailand needs - the people voted for MFP, 14m people, a majority - sorry but i would not be accepting this, 14m people were are you

Give most Thai's, especially Men, a plate of food and a bottle of beer and all else fades in the memory, even if it only happened yesterday !

[NatureFilm]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

His level of insincerity is mind boggling. Srettha. The do nothing PM. 

he scares away foreigners and investors with crazy plans to increase taxes. That would have a huge impact

[PomPolo]

A sensitive bunch 🙂

[BritScot]

Come on America, start taking a very close look at Thailands banks, money laundering,  slavery, copyright, and strategic value (Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore are better value for the $). Thailand and other similar countries simply take for granted the millions given to them Free, just stop giving it.