On 8/13/2024 at 10:10 AM, placeholder said:

Please. For people who earn little there are automated programs to catch people who either cheat or just make a mistake. In fact, those automated programs can also give refunds to those who make a mistake.

The IRS program with new agents was designed to go where the money is - the wealthy. The IRS budgets have been slashed over the years allowing the rich to get away with massive tax evasion.

Wealth

Tax evasion by millionaires and billionaires tops $150 billion a year, says IRS chief

The nation’s millionaires and billionaires are evading more than $150 billion a year in taxes, according to the head of the Internal Revenue Service.
The IRS, with billions of dollars in new funding from Congress, has launched a sweeping crackdown on wealthy individuals, partnerships and large companies, Commissioner Danny Werfel told CNBC.
“We have to make investments to make sure that whether you’re a complicated filer who can afford to hire an army of lawyers and accountants, or a more simple filer who has one income and takes the standard deduction, the IRS is equally able to determine what’s owed,” he said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/22/tax-evasion-by-wealthiest-americans-tops-150-billion-a-year-irs.html

 

Your point about tips is a good one. Why should tips be exempt from income tax? It makes no sense.

As for eliminating taxes on income earned by SS recipients, it's a little more complicated. Years ago, a provision was made that allowed for income by seniors to be taxed once it reached a certain level. The problem was that the bill didn't provide for inflation adjustments. So the law should be changed to raise the limit to what it would have been were inflation accounted for. 

Yet the IRS under Obama was targeting conservative non-profits. 

 

How many agents and hours have been wasted investigating Trump?

12 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And of course has no influence, got it. 

 

It is interesting that you blame Trump for his tax cuts, but claim Biden does not have the power to cut taxes. Not a STEM major, huh?

Do you understand that we're talking about Kamila Harris, not Joe Biden? Is there any evidence that Biden wanted to exempt tips from taxes? Given your propensity for making obvious errors, you might want to think twice before gratuitously insulting the intellect of others.

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Yet the IRS under Obama was targeting conservative non-profits. 

 

How many agents and hours have been wasted investigating Trump?

Another right wing myth distortion.

 

"Now, in the third audit of how the tax-exempt application process went off the rails, the Treasury Department's inspector general overseeing the IRS has found the agency targeted not just conservatives but also scores of groups with words like "progressive" in their names.

The Treasury inspector general for tax administration, or TIGTA, did the report at the request of a bipartisan group of senators.

"The far right has been beating a drum for years now that there was a partisan attack on them," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., one of the requestors. He said the new report shows "that's just not true."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555975207/as-irs-targeted-tea-party-groups-it-went-after-progressives-too

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Do you understand that we're talking about Kamila Harris, not Joe Biden? Is there any evidence that Biden wanted to exempt tips from taxes? Given your propensity for making obvious errors, you might want to think twice before gratuitously insulting the intellect of others.

And you think Biden is running things? That’s hilarious. 

 

Kamala could go to Nancy today and get a bill through to cut taxes if she wanted. 

 

Maybe they’ll push sleepy joe the rest of the way out and she’ll do it before the election to get a jump on Trump.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Another right wing myth distortion.

 

"Now, in the third audit of how the tax-exempt application process went off the rails, the Treasury Department's inspector general overseeing the IRS has found the agency targeted not just conservatives but also scores of groups with words like "progressive" in their names.

The Treasury inspector general for tax administration, or TIGTA, did the report at the request of a bipartisan group of senators.

"The far right has been beating a drum for years now that there was a partisan attack on them," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., one of the requestors. He said the new report shows "that's just not true."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555975207/as-irs-targeted-tea-party-groups-it-went-after-progressives-too

Fact-checker, got it.

 

Where’s Lois Lerner?

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

And you think Biden is running things? That’s hilarious. 

 

Kamala could go to Nancy today and get a bill through to cut taxes if she wanted. 

 

Maybe they’ll push sleepy joe the rest of the way out and she’ll do it before the election to get a jump on Trump.

Why do you insist on demonstrating your lack of knowledge about the system. Nancy Pelosi is no longer the Speaker of the House. That honor now belongs to Mike Johnson. He's a Republican. And the reason that a Republican holds the speakership is because a majority of the members of the House belong to the Republican Party.

 

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Fact-checker, got it.

 

Where’s Lois Lerner?

"On May 10, 2013, in a conference call with reporters, Lerner apologized that Tea Party groups and other groups had been targeted for audits of their applications for tax-exemption. Both conservative and liberal groups were scrutinized.[1] Only three groups—all branches of the Democratic group Emerge America—had tax exemptions revoked.[2] Lerner resigned over the controversy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner

 

Apparently, she was a persecutor of Democrats.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Why do you insist on demonstrating your lack of knowledge about the system. Nancy Pelosi is no longer the Speaker of the House. That honor now belongs to Mike Johnson. He's a Republican. And the reason that a Republican holds the speakership is because a majority of the members of the House belong to the Republican Party.

And it’s your position that was Nancy to bring a bill cutting taxes, Mike Johnson would stop it, and the press would not go bananas, is that it? 

 

 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

"On May 10, 2013, in a conference call with reporters, Lerner apologized that Tea Party groups and other groups had been targeted for audits of their applications for tax-exemption. Both conservative and liberal groups were scrutinized.[1] Only three groups—all branches of the Democratic group Emerge America—had tax exemptions revoked.[2] Lerner resigned over the controversy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner

 

Apparently, she was a persecutor of Democrats.

Right, she targeted them and then apologized after the election, got it. 

5 hours ago, mogandave said:

And it’s your position that was Nancy to bring a bill cutting taxes, Mike Johnson would stop it, and the press would not go bananas, is that it? 

 

 

Right, she targeted them and then apologized after the election, got it. 

What don't you understand about the fact that Nancy Pelosi is no longer the Speaker of the House? That means she doesn't have the authority to even bring up such a bill for authorization. And what makes your comment even worse is that the VP can't go around the President to advocate for a bill. Even if Pelosi was still the Speaker, the first thing that would be checked was if the President was behind it.  And, of course, no rational VP would even try to pull such a stunt. But an irrational person who clearly not only doesn't understand the American political system, but doesn't understand that they don't understand it, might thin that this was a feasible plan.

 

Lerner did not apologize for personally targeting anybody. And as noted, it wasn't only conservatives who were targeted. It was also progressives. In fact, the only groups  to have their exemptions taken away were progressive groups. So where exactly is the evidence of political persecution.