Popular Post Social Media Posted August 15 Popular Post Posted August 15 A Russian physicist has called on President Vladimir Putin to consider the deployment of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. The proposal aims to accelerate the war’s conclusion and disrupt the supply routes that enable the transfer of aid from Western nations to Kyiv. The call comes in the form of a letter sent by Anatoly Volyntsev, a physicist and professor at Perm State University, to the Russian leader. This letter, a copy of which was obtained by the independent Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, has sparked a heated debate about the ethics and potential consequences of using such extreme measures in the ongoing conflict. The newspaper conducted an in-depth interview with Volyntsev, where he elaborated on the contents of his letter and his reasoning behind the proposal. The war in Ukraine, which has now entered its third year, has seen an escalation in recent days. A surprise incursion by Ukrainian forces into Russia's Kursk region on August 6 resulted in Kyiv seizing nearly as much territory as Moscow has managed to capture in Ukraine since the beginning of the year. According to Ukrainian Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrsky, Kyiv now controls approximately 1,000 square kilometers (386 square miles) of the Kursk region. This significant territorial gain by Ukraine has further intensified the conflict, prompting calls for drastic measures from some quarters in Russia. Efforts to seek comment from Ukraine's Foreign Ministry were made, but no response has been received as of yet. The strained relations between Washington and Moscow have only worsened since Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Russian officials have frequently accused NATO of being complicit in the conflict by providing Kyiv with military aid and weaponry. In his interview with Novaya Gazeta, Volyntsev explained that his suggestion to Putin was rooted in the belief that the use of nuclear weapons could help Russia achieve its goals more swiftly, particularly given the prolonged nature of the conflict. "The situation at the front has become so bogged down and drawn out," he lamented, noting that Moscow has failed to execute any "major breakthrough military actions" since the war began. Despite Russia's apparent military advantage, the physicist observed that "we are moving quite slowly." This sluggish progress, he argued, has left the Russian people questioning when the conflict will finally conclude and whether the initial objectives will be met. Volyntsev expressed frustration over the repeated terrorist attacks on Russian soil, which he claimed were orchestrated by the West using Western weapons and intelligence resources. These attacks, he suggested, have gone unanswered, leading many in Russia to wonder why the nation has not responded more forcefully. "We are a nuclear power," Volyntsev pointed out, questioning why such a powerful tool has not yet been employed to bring about a decisive end to the conflict. One of the key targets Volyntsev proposed for a nuclear strike is Ukraine's Beskydy Tunnel, a crucial rail route located in the Lviv region. This tunnel is reportedly used to transport Western weapons that are crucial to Ukraine's defense efforts. According to Volyntsev, conventional weapons would be insufficient to destroy the tunnel due to its structural resilience, as tunnels are "the most reliable bomb shelters." However, he argued that the destructive power of nuclear weapons would be more than adequate to achieve this goal. Volyntsev suggested the use of "small hydrogen bombs" to carry out what he described as a "gentle nuclear strike" on the tunnel, with the aim of blocking the primary supply routes. While he acknowledged that some radioactivity would be released as a result of the strike, he insisted that this option would not result in significant radioactive contamination of the atmosphere or the soil. "Yes, there will be casualties," he conceded, "but everything can be done with minimal destruction." The physicist characterized the current state of the conflict as "a war of attrition," one that could have ended long ago if not for the sustained assistance from Western nations. "Without Western assistance, everything would have ended long ago," Volyntsev stated. He argued that in order to bring the conflict to a swift conclusion, it is necessary to "block the flow of weapons, other materials, and equipment that allow the Ukrainian regime to exist." Volyntsev's proposals have undoubtedly provoked a range of reactions, both within Russia and internationally. The suggestion of using nuclear weapons, even in a limited capacity, raises significant ethical and geopolitical concerns. The potential for escalation and the broader implications of such an action could have far-reaching consequences, not only for the region but for the entire world. Credit: Newsweek 2024-08-16 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe Cigna offers a variety of health insurance plans designed to meet the minimum requirement for medical treatment coverage, with benefits reaching up to THB 3 million. These plans are tailored to provide comprehensive healthcare solutions for expatriates, ensuring peace of mind and access to quality medical services. To explore the full range of Cigna's expat health insurance options and find a plan that suits your needs, click here for more information. 1 2
NowNow Posted August 16 Posted August 16 Then they will cry when Ukraine does the same to them.... 1 1
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 16 Popular Post Posted August 16 10 hours ago, Social Media said: Volyntsev expressed frustration over the repeated terrorist attacks on Russian soil, Not a funny topic.....but that made me laugh 4 1
Zenyu kanari Posted August 28 Posted August 28 On 8/15/2024 at 3:38 PM, Social Media said: Volyntsev expressed frustration over the repeated terrorist attacks on Russian soil I've heard he also complained about the fact that the west doesn't sanction Ukraine because it attacked Russia. What a joke.. 1
Popular Post JimHuaHin Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Zenyu kanari said: I've heard he also complained about the fact that the west doesn't sanction Ukraine because it attacked Russia. What a joke.. And Putin complained that the West was supplying Ukraine with weapons, but he made no comment about China, India, North Korea, Syria, etc. supplying weapons to Russia. 1 2
KhunLA Posted August 29 Posted August 29 19 minutes ago, frank83628 said: you lot believe anything put in front of you. Yea ... amazing anyone would ever put that in print. Putin's going to launch, we need more nukes ... more taxes ... 1 1
orang37 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 This Russian physicist's nuclear proposal is madness! It's a recipe for disaster, and the potential consequences are terrifying. 1
Will B Good Posted August 29 Posted August 29 On 8/16/2024 at 3:38 AM, Social Media said: Volyntsev suggested the use of "small hydrogen bombs" to carry out what he described as a "gentle nuclear strike" Well if anyone was in any doubt about his state of mind........ 1 1
Will B Good Posted August 29 Posted August 29 6 hours ago, frank83628 said: you lot believe anything put in front of you. How do you mean? The whole thing has been faked by.....X (not Musk)......for the purposes of......? It is old news....I read this over a week ago. 2
Popular Post Cameroni Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 On 8/15/2024 at 10:38 PM, Social Media said: "Without Western assistance, everything would have ended long ago," Volyntsev stated. Very true. Of course the West, ie America and it's vassal states, have a vested interest in weakening Russia and dragging out the war as long as possible, regardless of whether the Ukraine can win or not. If Russia does use a nuclear device, it will again be because of actions by the West forcing Russia to go down this route. 2 7 1
cjinchiangrai Posted August 29 Posted August 29 There is no such thing as limited nuclear war. Putin will not use tactical nukes alone, because he knows that if he does a few thousand strategic nukes will be inbound. 1 1
cjinchiangrai Posted August 29 Posted August 29 32 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Very true. Of course the West, ie America and it's vassal states, have a vested interest in weakening Russia and dragging out the war as long as possible, regardless of whether the Ukraine can win or not. If Russia does use a nuclear device, it will again be because of actions by the West forcing Russia to go down this route. Thank you comrade but not true. 1 1
Cameroni Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said: There is no such thing as limited nuclear war. Putin will not use tactical nukes alone, because he knows that if he does a few thousand strategic nukes will be inbound. Total nonsense. If Russia uses nukes in Ukraine the West could never respond. Because they know a nuclear confrontation with Russia could mean annihilation. Why would America et al be so careful not to put troops on the ground? Because they want to avoid a war with Russia. Edited August 29 by Cameroni 1 1 1
cjinchiangrai Posted August 29 Posted August 29 1 minute ago, Cameroni said: Total nonsense. If Russia uses nukes in Ukraine the West could never respond. Because they know a nuclear confrontation with Russia could mean annihilation. Why would America et al be so careful not to put troops on the ground? Because they want to avoid a war with Russia. Not just the US, and try it. Putin is not that stupid. 1
Popular Post Cameroni Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said: Not just the US, and try it. Putin is not that stupid. Nobody wants a nuclear with Russia, which has over 5000 regularly serviced nuclear weapons. That is why the US, Britain and France are pussyfooting about and not sending troops into Ukraine. The fact that Macron even talked about it shows that he's dangerously insane and should be removed from power as soon as possible. Putin is definitely not stupid, which is why he and his advisors know that they could drop nukes on Ukraine and the West could never respond. Lest they risk nuclear war with Russia, which is equal to suicide. Edited August 29 by Cameroni 1 2 1 1
Popular Post NativeBob Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 Well, that is pure example of fake news. somebody from some siberian jungle wrote "open" letter to El Presidente and it was published in street tabloid Please, gimme a break! 1 1 1
Popular Post Will B Good Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Nobody wants a nuclear with Russia, which has over 5000 regularly serviced nuclear weapons. That is why the US, Britain and France are pussyfooting about and not sending troops into Ukraine. The fact that Macron even talked about it shows that he's dangerously insane and should be removed from power as soon as possible. Putin is definitely not stupid, which is why he and his advisors know that they could drop nukes on Ukraine and the West could never respond. Lest they risk nuclear war with Russia, which is equal to suicide. Which begs the question....why don't they?....Game over. 2 1
Cameroni Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Which begs the question....why don't they?....Game over. Indeed it does. I think there are 2 reasons. Firstly, Russia is still convinced it can win by conventional means, it will just take longer. After all their economy is 10 times the size of Ukraine, and doing incredibly well right now. Whereas Ukraine, well..., their economy is pretty much destroyed and there are already signs the Western nations are reconsidering their funding bonanza for Ukraine. Secondly, and this one is more important, Russia sees itself as a highly cultured nation, and does not want to be seen as the nation that proliferated nuclear war. Russians actually care what others think, despite acting as if they don't. I don't think Putin wants his legacy to be that he unleashed nuclear war either. He would only use nukes in extremely dangerous circumstances. And currently Russia is not seriously endangered. Edited August 29 by Cameroni 2 1 1
Popular Post jvs Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 8 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Indeed it does. I think there are 2 reasons. Firstly, Russia is still convinced it can win by conventional means, it will just take longer. After all their economy is 10 times the size of Ukraine, and doing incredibly well right now. Whereas Ukraine, well..., their economy is pretty much destroyed and there are already signs the Western nations are reconsidering their funding bonanza for Ukraine. Secondly, and this one is more important, Russia sees itself as a highly cultured nation, and does not want to be seen as the nation that proliferated nuclear war. Russians actually care what others think, despite acting as if they don't. I don't think Putin wants his legacy to be that he unleashed nuclear war either. He would only use nukes in extremely dangerous circumstances. And currently Russia is not seriously endangered. Russian economy doing well? carry on comrad.555 2 1 1
Popular Post Cameroni Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, jvs said: Russian economy doing well? carry on comrad.555 The Russian economy is doing fantastically well at the moment. Well, at least according to the BBC, the International Monetary Fund and the Economist. But I'm sure you have better information, just share it. Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF An influential global body has forecast Russia's economy will grow faster than all of the world's advanced economies, including the US, this year. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expects Russia to grow 3.2% this year, significantly more than the UK, France and Germany. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399 1 3
connda Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) An academic making a proposal and the Russian government making the proposal an actionable item are birds of different feathers. Putin is getting unsolicited proposals left, right, and center from the public, the media, those in his government, and his military advisors. This article is about as daft as some nuclear physicist from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory urging Biden to put nukes in Western Ukraine. Russia sits on Ukraine's border. There is no need to "put nukes in Ukraine." A tactical nuke in Russia could hit Ukraine from Russia in a few minutes. 🙄 Well, this did make "The Dictator Putin Is Hitler" crowd surface to feed. Edited August 29 by connda 1 1 1
Popular Post connda Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 6 minutes ago, jvs said: Russian economy doing well? carry on comrad.555 Absolutely. The ruble is rubble, the Russian economy is in the trash bin, the Ukraine military is winning, Russia is bombing its own nuclear reactors, and Russia is using computer chips out of washing machines to make their missiles. I know! I listen to CNN! I see you do too! 🇺🇦 1 2 1
Popular Post connda Posted August 29 Popular Post Posted August 29 6 minutes ago, Cameroni said: The Russian economy is doing fantastically well at the moment. Well, at least according to the BBC, the International Monetary Fund and the Economist. But I'm sure you have better information, just share it. Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF An influential global body has forecast Russia's economy will grow faster than all of the world's advanced economies, including the US, this year. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expects Russia to grow 3.2% this year, significantly more than the UK, France and Germany. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399 OMG! The commie Rooskie and Putin lovers have taken over BBC and are now publishing <gasp> misinformation!!! Egads! The IMF too!!! 🇺🇦 Russia woman staring at shelves in a Moscow supermarket and wishing she lived in London or Berlin 2 1
Cameroni Posted August 29 Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, connda said: OMG! The commie Rooskie and Putin lovers have taken over BBC and are now publishing <gasp> misinformation!!! Egads! The IMF too!!! 🇺🇦 Russia woman staring at shelves in a Moscow supermarket and wishing she lived in London or Berlin Posts like this make this site worth the visit. New fan here. 1
connda Posted August 29 Posted August 29 13 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Posts like this make this site worth the visit. New fan here.
connda Posted August 29 Posted August 29 29 minutes ago, connda said: Russia is using computer chips out of washing machines to make their missiles. Putin's Commie Russian 9K720 Iskander missile being readied for firing at the Kursk NPP. 1
Bkk Brian Posted August 29 Posted August 29 On 8/16/2024 at 3:38 AM, Social Media said: Russian physicist has called on President Vladimir Putin to consider the deployment of nuclear weapons in Ukraine The old Russian apologist nuclear rhetoric trick that's been used for over 2 years already... Hilarious that some are still using it right here on the forum 1 1
Celsius Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) If Russia ever attempts to do this, China will nuke Russia themselves. Edited August 29 by Celsius 1
brianthainess Posted August 29 Posted August 29 This war will go nowhere IMO, Putin may win the war, but he will never win the hearts of the Ukraine's any Russians there will have to constantly watch their backs. 1
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