How on earth do you Diet in Thailand ?

[DonniePeverley]

 .... as in trying to lose weight, not maintaining. 

 

Calories aren't a major weapon used here - unless you look to buy heavily processed ready  made meals. 

 

I was eating a single Pad Kaprao a day for a week, and some fruit on the evening. Didn't lose anything. 

 

Went behind the scenes to see how this Pad Kaprao was being made (under the guise of being a good customer). My goodness this isn't some healthy meal, little bit of chicken mixed into some spicy veg and some rice. Hell no. Instead the volume of oil used was enough to burn a building. She then proceeds to add 20 large spoons (i literally lie to you not) of sugar, followed by endless volume of a salt called MGM. So you think that's it ... no there were more. Once finished she began to put some butter into it, a proper massive lump !!!!!

The sheer volume of salt and MSG put into the rice was astonishing.

 

I came away thinking this isn't just some minor small meal. This is a one hell of a calorie laden meal. 

 

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

[stoner]

8 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

 

1. stop shoveling garbage into your gullet.

 

2. stop talking so much garbage. 

 

9 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

She then proceeds to add 20 large spoons (i literally lie to you not) of sugar

 

20 eh. you know how much sugar that really is. she would of been scoping for a good 30 seconds or so. come on fella.  

[mdr224]

Restaurants goal is to have people come back not to look out for your health. Goes without saying in any country you should prepare your own meals

[hotandsticky]

Pad Krappow is my favourite Thai dish...........but I only have one or two a month.

 

How many calories are in pad kra pow?

Energy: 547 calories   (well over 600 calories if you stick on an egg or two,)

Protein37g

Carbs67g

Fat15g

Edited August 21 by hotandsticky

[OneMoreFarang]

27 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

I don't count. And I don't lose. I just enjoy life.

[gamb00ler]

5 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Restaurants goal is to have people come back not to look out for your health. Goes without saying in any country you should prepare your own meals

My Thai wife is very good at befriending the local food vendors and then politely suggesting they reduce the amount of sugar/fat/MSG in the items we order.  She often gets their phone number and calls in the orders for the "special" version that I then go pick up.  If the flavor is not quite balanced to her liking we can adjust the salt or sugar ourselves using fish sauce and stevia.

[Gsxrnz]

If it had four legs, two wings, or could swim, eat only that.

 

Garnish with salt and pepper only. Cook it yourself with minimal olive oil. Absolutely no sugar or carbohydrates of any kind.

 

Eat as much as you want. You'll enter ketosis in 3-4 days and you'll be cinching up your belt within 7 days. All while never feeling hungry.

[fredwiggy]

You'll have to find a restaurant that makes food in a healthy manner. There are many who use old oil, too much sugar and salt. Tell them exactly what you want and don't want. It's your food so letting them know how you'd like it prepared tells them you are concerned with what you are eating. Of course some won't understand nor care. I ask for mi pet all the time, just a little chili, and to some this means throw three in when I mean one. Some understand a foreigner usually isn't eating very hot food so they'll know. Keeping the amount of rice you eat small helps, as this is what they over do a lot here because it's a staple here. If you like chicken , eating it instead of pork saves some calories. Tell them no skin added. You can communicate through your phone if they don't understand English. Stay away from fried rice to save more calories. Of course making your own food is always best but I'm sure you mean eating out.

[Hawaiian]

35 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 .... as in trying to lose weight, not maintaining. 

 

Calories aren't a major weapon used here - unless you look to buy heavily processed ready  made meals. 

 

I was eating a single Pad Kaprao a day for a week, and some fruit on the evening. Didn't lose anything. 

 

Went behind the scenes to see how this Pad Kaprao was being made (under the guise of being a good customer). My goodness this isn't some healthy meal, little bit of chicken mixed into some spicy veg and some rice. Hell no. Instead the volume of oil used was enough to burn a building. She then proceeds to add 20 large spoons (i literally lie to you not) of sugar, followed by endless volume of a salt called MGM. So you think that's it ... no there were more. Once finished she began to put some butter into it, a proper massive lump !!!!!

The sheer volume of salt and MSG put into the rice was astonishing.

 

I came away thinking this isn't just some minor small meal. This is a one hell of a calorie laden meal. 

 

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

Ever heard of starting out your meal with salad greens and a low-calorie dressing?  Yes, I know it's normally not found in a typical Thai restaurant.

[gargamon]

Cut out the rice and noodles and you'll do fine. Larb, ribs, even the curries without rice works well for me.

[msbkk]

One week is too short to really see the effects of your diet. To loose real body weight takes longer than most people expect. First of all the body consists of 60% water which is fluctuating day by day. Secondly there are always food remains in your colon and digestive system. 1 pound of fat is equivalent to approximately over 3,000 calories. The daily intake is usually around 2,000 calories. If you eat less than you normally do 1 pound of fat loss per week is a good target. And as your weight is fluctuating because of the mentioned factors it is difficult to say if you really did not loose any fat weight.

And it is advisable to increase fiber in form of vegetables and salads.

 

Edited August 22 by msbkk
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[marin]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

Went behind the scenes to see how this Pad Kaprao was being made (under the guise of being a good customer). My goodness this isn't some healthy meal, little bit of chicken mixed into some spicy veg and some rice. Hell no. Instead the volume of oil used was enough to burn a building. She then proceeds to add 20 large spoons (i literally lie to you not) of sugar, followed by endless volume of a salt called MGM. So you think that's it ... no there were more. Once finished she began to put some butter into it, a proper massive lump !!!!!

The sheer volume of salt and MSG put into the rice was astonishing.

 

You need to find a new place. 35+ years here and never experienced that. A lump of butter in krapow?  Never heard of that either. 

[pgrahmm]

Keto diet.....

I eat an AM breakfast & a 2:00/1400 dinner & that's usually it for the day - some days maybe a later snack....I weighed 117k when I started & stay at about 95k now.....I wasn't fat as I'm 195cm but I feel better & it's easier on a left knee & hip that have seen too much sports wear and tear - trying to avoid getting them replaced.....

It took me about 6 months to pare down and see/feel the desired results.....

[CharlieH]

Calorie deficit, its the only way.

 

Simply put, your putting in more fuel than your physical activity requires.

Either increase your activity or decrease the intake.

 

 

 

 

 

[steven100]

A peanut butter sandwich and jatz crackers and water and you'll lose weight ....

and walking 5 kms every day . 

[scubascuba3]

If you're struggling to lose weight cook at home.

 

When out, chicken, mixed vegetables with rice is a good healthy meal, egg if need extra

[aussie11950]

Carbs is the problem, not salt or animal oil or lack of fibre.
If you eat less calories, or skip a meal, your body will clamp down and use less energy and make you hungry, so you will always return to your original weight or more.

I lost 17 kilo (37 pounds) on keto in Thailand.

One meal a day. bacon, sausages, eggs, yoghurt and a little apple cider vinegar.

Eat in a 6 hour window, or less, and water fast 1 day a week, so your body's insulin can drop and use your stored fat.

Eat as much fat as you want, it wont make you fat. Its carbohydrate that's converted to sugar that's stored as fat.

Avoid any seed oils (vegetable oil) as the high omega 6 makes LDL sticky and the cause of heart attacks, use butter, coconut oil or olive oil.

Just eat the original food we used to eat 150 years ago, not processed food, margarine, vegetable oil or any snacks.

 

[Photoguy21]

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 .... as in trying to lose weight, not maintaining. 

 

Calories aren't a major weapon used here - unless you look to buy heavily processed ready  made meals. 

 

I was eating a single Pad Kaprao a day for a week, and some fruit on the evening. Didn't lose anything. 

 

Went behind the scenes to see how this Pad Kaprao was being made (under the guise of being a good customer). My goodness this isn't some healthy meal, little bit of chicken mixed into some spicy veg and some rice. Hell no. Instead the volume of oil used was enough to burn a building. She then proceeds to add 20 large spoons (i literally lie to you not) of sugar, followed by endless volume of a salt called MGM. So you think that's it ... no there were more. Once finished she began to put some butter into it, a proper massive lump !!!!!

The sheer volume of salt and MSG put into the rice was astonishing.

 

I came away thinking this isn't just some minor small meal. This is a one hell of a calorie laden meal. 

 

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

Exercise and eat less. Not hard really.

[mfd101]

Sugar (in all its forms) is your enemy.

[ignore it]

Easy peasy

 

The free "myfitnesspal" app,

a small kitchen scale, no carbs (bread, pasta, rice, fried potatoes) willpower and self control,

[Will B Good]

 

 

Cereal for breakfast, fruit and yoghurt for lunch, salad in the evening.

 

Dropped from 89 kg to 74 kg over a year.

[Presnock]

Actually it is rather easy.  Just read the two best sellers from Dr. William Li, a famous heart surgeon, scientist, best selling author of two books on DIET and Healthy foods.   I thought I was eating healthy anyway and had already adopted some of his recommendations but after reading the books I realized how many healthy foods are available here in Thailand!  I have been able to find places that do fix healthy meals based on his recommendations, and as for fruits, berries, nuts, grains, etc, there are numerous places selling all of those plus just in the regular markets are plenty of healthy veggies, fruits, etc and one of the big problems locally is cooking oils - easy to learn where one can eat healthy or where to avoid.  Of course fo r those readers that live in rural areas with limited shopping I might have misled you.  I am talking about CM and Bangkok because I do have plenty of experience in those two locations on shopping for healthy foods.  Healthy bodies isn't 100% food, but also taking care by exercising regularly, good hygiene practices, avoiding unhealthy drinks or drugs.  But I do hope the best for all, especially looking at health statistics for developed nations which should be better than here but is scary to say the least.

[newbee2022]

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

My question is to you all ... how on earth do you count calories here and lose weight ?

Well, not counting calories but eating only half.

That's definitely not rocket science. No need for any pharmaceuticals. 👍

[msbkk]

37 minutes ago, aussie11950 said:

Carbs is the problem, not salt or animal oil or lack of fibre.
If you eat less calories, or skip a meal, your body will clamp down and use less energy and make you hungry, so you will always return to your original weight or more.

I lost 17 kilo (37 pounds) on keto in Thailand.

One meal a day. bacon, sausages, eggs, yoghurt and a little apple cider vinegar.

Eat in a 6 hour window, or less, and water fast 1 day a week, so your body's insulin can drop and use your stored fat.

Eat as much fat as you want, it wont make you fat. Its carbohydrate that's converted to sugar that's stored as fat.

Avoid any seed oils (vegetable oil) as the high omega 6 makes LDL sticky and the cause of heart attacks, use butter, coconut oil or olive oil.

Just eat the original food we used to eat 150 years ago, not processed food, margarine, vegetable oil or any snacks.

 

How is your lipid profile? And you will miss out on vitamins and minerals and other nutricients.  This kind of extreme diet works but is not really healthy. And who in his right mind wants to eat only bacon, sausages and eggs?

Edited August 22 by msbkk

[maesariang]

I think the whole weight loss thing is a scam. Warren Buffet is fat and 93. Just eat enough vitamins and minerals.

[ChrisKC]

This is not much to do with Thailand - it is easy to eat nutritionally poorly anywhere in the world.

 

It is what you choose yourself that matters.

 

I am surprised that you think that ANY diet (good or bad) would show meaningful results in one week!

48 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I think the whole weight loss thing is a scam. Warren Buffet is fat and 93. Just eat enough vitamins and minerals.

Pad Kha Prao however "bad" it is, is not bad as long it isn't part of your regular diet.

 

I have been here 20 years to discover that in restaurants and outside eating, will provide little in the way of long term nutritional needs.

 

90% of my diet, I prepare myself, with boring (for some) vegetables, eat lots of fruit, no added sugar in anything , added to plenty of daily exercise that culminates to my 100% health both physically and mentally.

[ChrisKC]

49 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I think the whole weight loss thing is a scam. Warren Buffet is fat and 93. Just eat enough vitamins and minerals.

That sounds like something hopelessly silly your hero Trump would say!

 

Good role model for you, I know!

 

 

[maesariang]

5 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

That sounds like something hopelessly silly your hero Trump would say!

 

Good role model for you, I know!

 

 

My hero is Eastwood. Trump would be ranked top 100m.

[maesariang]

6 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Good role model for you, I know!

 

Nice red suit.

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, maesariang said:

I think the whole weight loss thing is a scam. Warren Buffet is fat and 93. Just eat enough vitamins and minerals.

A simpleton's analysis that leaves out dozens of important factors.