Kamala Harris supports the Radical Trans and Homosexual Agenda

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

I think it should be made-clear that there is no difference of significance on this issue with Trump.  Look at what Trump supported in 2021, at his annual "Log Cabin Republicans" - Peter Thiel's** group - event at Mar-A-Lago:
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/11/donald-trump-is-now-one-with-the-gop-establishment/

 

Trump has supported this "movement" since well before he ran for President, which has long been a problem with the socially-conservative wing of the party. 

 

It remains to be seen if Peter Thiel's creation, JD Vance, can provide him with that support as well as Mike Pence did - with Pence's "Christian First, Conservative Second, Republican Third - in that order" stump-speeches.

** (long-tangent to Thiel's Palentir 3-letter-agency surveillance-systems skipped - web-search Whitney Webb's reporting on that, if interested.)

Project 2025 is radically anti LGBT.

[daveAustin]

Kamala Harris supports the Radical Trans and Homosexual Agenda

 

😴 Who cares? With the way the western world is going down the pan (largely through the likes of this and other SJ tat), the sooner the rest of society (most people) gets put out of its misery. Asia is where it's at. Accepted and acknowledged, yes, but not tripping over themselves and hamstringing everyone else.

[Rob Browder]

10 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And less than ten percent of the population that mostly wish to be left alone is going to drive what as public policy? Marriage rights? Not being publicly shamed? Access to jobs and housing? What exactly affects your life and is unfair?

 

There is no agenda, there is no grooming, there is no conspiracy.

I suggest you read the book "After the Ball" - written by a couple of Harvard guys in the 1990s, on exactly how they were going to accomplish pushing their "agenda" - which was carried out exactly as they outlined - complete with not including transgenders until the end of the process, as that would be most offensive to the "normals."   

 

One of the authors had written a piece titled "The Gay Agenda," published in a pro-gay magazine, prior.  This is the origin of the "agenda" term.

 

As with "Replacement Immigration," you are an "evil bigot" if you criticize it, even as those carrying out the policy admit, publicly, that this is their intent / goal. 

 

If there was no intent to "groom," then there would be no policy / propaganda targeting children - period.  "Transitioning" is a very PROFITABLE business, as well, so we get all those incentives in the mix.  Let them grow up and go through puberty normally, and only a tiny-fraction will become "customers."

[Rob Browder]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Project 2025 is radically anti LGBT.

Anyone who thinks Trump supports "Project 2025" is kidding themselves.  He even publicly said he does not support it - won't even lie about supporting it, to try to win-over more conservative voters.

 

To spite being able to populate "rallies," many remember his actual actions as president; they will not waste their time voting for a proven liar, who did the opposite of everything they voted for in 2016.

 

Trump's only angle is demonizing Harris as a "communist" - to scare people into voting for the "lesser of evils" - which is the same strategy of Harris in the other direction (just substitute "fascist").  Most Americans do not want either "choice" (sic), whose support for the policies they hate most is shared.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Anyone who thinks Trump supports "Project 2025" is kidding themselves.  He even publicly said he does not support it - won't even lie about supporting it, to try to win-over more conservative voters.

 

To spite being able to populate "rallies," many remember his actual actions as president; they will not waste their time voting for a proven liar, who did the opposite of everything they voted for in 2016.

 

Trump's only angle is demonizing Harris as a "communist" - to scare people into voting for the "lesser of evils" - which is the same strategy of Harris in the other direction (just substitute "fascist").  Most Americans do not want either "choice" (sic), whose support for the policies they hate most is shared.

You are very naive and/or a shameless Trump propagandist.

Trump is lazy.

He's a frail feeble completely insane old man who likes to golf, eat fast food, and is only running to dodge prison. 

If he wins, the Project 2025 people will actually do the work. 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, Rob Browder said:

I suggest you read the book "After the Ball" - written by a couple of Harvard guys in the 1990s, on exactly how they were going to accomplish pushing their "agenda" - which was carried out exactly as they outlined - complete with not including transgenders until the end of the process, as that would be most offensive to the "normals."   

 

One of the authors had written a piece titled "The Gay Agenda," published in a pro-gay magazine, prior.  This is the origin of the "agenda" term.

 

As with "Replacement Immigration," you are an "evil bigot" if you criticize it, even as those carrying out the policy admit, publicly, that this is their intent / goal. 

 

If there was no intent to "groom," then there would be no policy / propaganda targeting children - period.  "Transitioning" is a very PROFITABLE business, as well, so we get all those incentives in the mix.  Let them grow up and go through puberty normally, and only a tiny-fraction will become "customers."

And what was the gay agenda that the achieved? Non-discrimination? Marriage equality? How does this affect you? If you do not want a gay marriage, don't get one. nobody is forcing you to do anything.

 

If you accept the replacement theory of immigration you are an evil bigot. It is patently anti-Semitic and racist. It is also nonsense.

 

What policies are targeting children? I have not seen anything that does not start with requests from the children. HRT and SRT are explicitly prohibited for minors.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, Rob Browder said:

Anyone who thinks Trump supports "Project 2025" is kidding themselves.  He even publicly said he does not support it - won't even lie about supporting it, to try to win-over more conservative voters.

 

To spite being able to populate "rallies," many remember his actual actions as president; they will not waste their time voting for a proven liar, who did the opposite of everything they voted for in 2016.

 

Trump's only angle is demonizing Harris as a "communist" - to scare people into voting for the "lesser of evils" - which is the same strategy of Harris in the other direction (just substitute "fascist").  Most Americans do not want either "choice" (sic), whose support for the policies they hate most is shared.

Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation fascist manifesto developed by former Trump staffers. Trump himself does not care about gays or abortion other than that is the price of his fascist minions giving him more power. He will screw over anyone to gain power and avoid prison.

 

If you are willing to trust a convicted felon, sexual predator and thief then you are a fool. Thousands have been stabbed in the back by Trump over the years and the MAGA morons do not yet see that they are being fleeced by a conman. It is not about you or any of his sycophants, it is about lining Trumps pockets and avoiding prison. If he manages to win or steal the election, he will turn over the business to the likes of Stephan Miller and just take a cut of the grift.

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Dog-whistling homophobic sh!t from a troll.

 

Just another feeble attempt to throw mud at Harris, hoping some will stick.

 

Unnecessary with Trump, he's covered in it already. Self-applied.

Another supporter of grooming and genital mutilation I see. Thank god you arent an American

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Project 2025 is radically anti LGBT.

Not that you ever read it, but Im sure that their policy positions dont include genital mutilation of children, something that you clearly favour

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation fascist manifesto developed by former Trump staffers. Trump himself does not care about gays or abortion other than that is the price of his fascist minions giving him more power. He will screw over anyone to gain power and avoid prison.

 

If you are willing to trust a convicted felon, sexual predator and thief then you are a fool. Thousands have been stabbed in the back by Trump over the years and the MAGA morons do not yet see that they are being fleeced by a conman. It is not about you or any of his sycophants, it is about lining Trumps pockets and avoiding prison. If he manages to win or steal the election, he will turn over the business to the likes of Stephan Miller and just take a cut of the grift.

Notice how they start hysterically post about Trumps evil nature, while they encourage your children to "transition" behind your back.

[cjinchiangrai]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Not that you ever read it, but Im sure that their policy positions dont include genital mutilation of children, something that you clearly favour

There is no genital mutilation of minors. It is illegal and always has been. It is a lie spread by right wing bigots to scare people into abusive positions.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

There is no genital mutilation of minors. It is illegal and always has been. It is a lie spread by right wing bigots to scare people into abusive positions.

You sure you want to take that position? 

 

What "abusive" positions by the way? Opposing the imposition of fantasy as law?

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Notice how they start hysterically post about Trumps evil nature, while they encourage your children to "transition" behind your back.

Nobody is encouraging anything. It is a lie promoted by the neofascists.

 

Trump is an adjudicated sexual predator, thief, and conman. He was impeached twice for flagrant crimes and is under felony prosecution in multiple venues. That documents Trumps evil nature enough for me.

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, Yagoda said:

You sure you want to take that position? 

 

What "abusive" positions by the way? Opposing the imposition of fantasy as law?

Absolutely, I actually know trans people. You obviously don't.

 

Laws and regulations that discriminate against the rights of LGBTQ persons. Project 2025 has plenty of them.

[Yagoda]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

Nobody is encouraging anything. It is a lie promoted by the neofascists.

 

Trump is an adjudicated sexual predator, thief, and conman. He was impeached twice for flagrant crimes and is under felony prosecution in multiple venues. That documents Trumps evil nature enough for me.

There ya go. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3020460/judge-allows-lawsuit-to-proceed-against-doctors-who-recommended-teenage-girl-transition-to-a-boy/

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/female-detransitioner-sues-american-academy-of-pediatrics-for-pushing-youth-gender-transition/

 

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/03/07/legal-action-may-change-transgender-care-in-america

 

Maybe Kamala will push for immunity for Drs.

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Absolutely, I actually know trans people. You obviously don't.

 

Laws and regulations that discriminate against the rights of LGBTQ persons. Project 2025 has plenty of them.

Well I know mentally ill folks and I dont talk to their demons, so whats your point? Trans are nice people? Im sure. So was Ted Bundy, talking the analogy to an absurd, yet telling point.

 

You cant name one thing out of Project 2025 that "discriminates against the rights" of folks with abnormal sexuality

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Well I know mentally ill folks and I dont talk to their demons, so whats your point? Trans are nice people? Im sure. So was Ted Bundy, talking the analogy to an absurd, yoet telling point.

 

You cant name one thing out of Project 2025 that "discriminates against the rights" of folks with abnormal sexuality

That would be incorrect on too many levels.

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

That would be incorrect on too many levels.

Translation: I cant cite anything from Project 2025 because I never read it

[MicroB]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I dont know how you equate objections to the societal normalization of personal mental illness to the detriment of women and children to "stalking and assault", but fine, no sense arguing, clearly, you support the trans agenda and are perfectly fine with teenage girls being forced to change in locker rooms with men pretending to be women, among other things.

 

This is how a Strawman argument works. Accuse people of holding a position no one has actually stated.

 

It goes the other way. It could be said that those who have a general objection to homosexuality are obviously in favour of pink triangle badges, work camps, and, eventually, extreme methods.

 

 

But I realise the US can be a bit strange. Its not uncommon in the US to find a public toilet, the gents, where there are no doors on the stalls, presumably because Americans like watching each other take a dump.

 

Walmart toilet. At least its clean

 

 

How do you lot manage it?

 

Of course, given your obsession with the toilet and girl's changing rooms, this could be just the thing to civilise public facilties, where we are forced to watch disgustingly fat old people waddle around starkers, or be super awkward at the trough with the bloke who is clearly knocking one out. In much of Continental Europe, you don't have a stall, you have a proper floor to ceiling room, with your own sink. At the public swimming baths, you can struggle into your cossie in the privacy of your own room. Governments will finally spend some money on the ghastly facilities many schools here; many will recall the stone cold khazis, where you stared up at the sky, coz there was no roof.

 

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

This is how a Strawman argument works. Accuse people of holding a position no one has actually stated.

 

It goes the other way. It could be said that those who have a general objection to homosexuality are obviously in favour of pink triangle badges, work camps, and, eventually, extreme methods.

 

 

But I realise the US can be a bit strange. Its not uncommon in the US to find a public toilet, the gents, where there are no doors on the stalls, presumably because Americans like watching each other take a dump.

 

Walmart toilet. At least its clean

 

 

How do you lot manage it?

 

Of course, given your obsession with the toilet and girl's changing rooms, this could be just the thing to civilise public facilties, where we are forced to watch disgustingly fat old people waddle around starkers, or be super awkward at the trough with the bloke who is clearly knocking one out. In much of Continental Europe, you don't have a stall, you have a proper floor to ceiling room, with your own sink. At the public swimming baths, you can struggle into your cossie in the privacy of your own room. Governments will finally spend some money on the ghastly facilities many schools here; many will recall the stone cold khazis, where you stared up at the sky, coz there was no roof.

 

Reductio ad Hitlerum.

 

One could argue that the Nazi was a homosexual movement but other than your feeble attempt to equate adherence to biology and American norms with Nazism, that argument isnt relevant here.

 

Nor is your sample of a Walmart restroom meaningful.

 

In fact your whole post is pointless.

[bubblegum]

Why is everything always "radical" whenever you don't agree. 

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Why is everything always "radical" whenever you don't agree. 

Do you agree with troubled teenage girls being manipulated into mastectomies? 

[cjinchiangrai]

Keep in mind that this is a Thai forum, not American. Everyone in Thailand knows some trans people and have no desire to remove their personal freedoms. This argument will get you and your Russian masters nowhere.

[Rob Browder]

13 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And what was the gay agenda that the achieved? Non-discrimination? Marriage equality? How does this affect you? If you do not want a gay marriage, don't get one. nobody is forcing you to do anything.

 

If you accept the replacement theory of immigration you are an evil bigot. It is patently anti-Semitic and racist. It is also nonsense.

 

What policies are targeting children? I have not seen anything that does not start with requests from the children. HRT and SRT are explicitly prohibited for minors.

So, I should just ignore all those saying they ARE replacing us in our homelands, and it is a "good thing" to do so?   Is "gentrification" of a neighborhood bad?  But doing the same thing to entire nations is not, somehow? 

 

Why are some people's cultures and traditions to be revered and respected, while others are to be derided and destroyed, even where the culture/traditions being attacked are of the indigenous people? 

 

Why are some people encouraged to celebrate having a homeland for their people, and others are condemned for the same? 

 

And, why is being CONSISTENT on this - supporting homelands + preservation of Culture and Traditions for ALL peoples - a "bad thing" - vs the Hypocritical position?

 

And, what does being Lebanese, Palestinian, or Israeli (= Semite) have to do with it?  What an ODD thing to say.  I doubt all of those which this comment ostensibly "defends" would want this association directed at them as a group.

On the "Gay Agenda" thing - are you really saying school districts did not include this propaganda in their official "curriculum" - rather than leave it to parents to discuss such matters with their children when THEY feel it is appropriate?   Have you missed the school board meetings where parents tried to read from the books in their school libraries, and were shut down for it being too pornographic?   Gay or Straight, that is INAPPROPRIATE for children - up to 18 years old.       

 

Once again, I have the CONSISTENT position - opposing ANY sexual-content directed at children.  Yet those who support pushing "gay" porn on kids will call that "bigoted." 

As bad as all that is, taking away a child's hope of EVER being a parent in a marriage with their own biological children, with castrating-drugs (which Trump supported in 2021) or surgical removal of parts of their bodies, is much, much worse.

[Rob Browder]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You are very naive and/or a shameless Trump propagandist.

Trump is lazy.

He's a frail feeble completely insane old man who likes to golf, eat fast food, and is only running to dodge prison. 

If he wins, the Project 2025 people will actually do the work. 

I despise Trump, because he is a liar and con-man, who betrayed ALL the pro-middle-class policies he promised in 2016.  He flipped on all of it, instead.  That will be his legacy.

 

Prison?   LOL!!!  You mean the "trials" psy-op used to get him through the Republican primary without EVER addressing policy?    Any conviction will get flipped on appeal.  He won't be doing any "hard time," is for sure.

 

Like Russiagate, this is yet another trick to con people into thinking Trump is their guy, after he did everything which those they claim to hate wanted for 4 years as president.  When did Trump EVER stand-up to those the Trump-fans hate?  He hired them to run every agency, and backed their every play.  He even kept backing their policies AFTER leaving the WH.  Have you seen the idiotic "4D-Chess" excuses they still make for all this?

 

The same people will "do the work" in a next Trump administration who did it the last time.  They are around him right now in his campaign.  This time, he doesn't even have someone like Bannon talking populism, who he would then throw under the bus, after using them to get votes.  Trump will support Big-Pharma, the MIC / Neocons, "socially progressive" policies - the same as the last time - the opposite of what his supporters want on every policy. 

 

Trump fans will support him as he betrays us, just as Harris fans will support her, as she betrays us with many of the very same policies.  There is no real choice on the ballot.

[Rob Browder]

14 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation fascist manifesto developed by former Trump staffers. Trump himself does not care about gays or abortion other than that is the price of his fascist minions giving him more power. He will screw over anyone to gain power and avoid prison.

 

If you are willing to trust a convicted felon, sexual predator and thief then you are a fool. Thousands have been stabbed in the back by Trump over the years and the MAGA morons do not yet see that they are being fleeced by a conman. It is not about you or any of his sycophants, it is about lining Trumps pockets and avoiding prison. If he manages to win or steal the election, he will turn over the business to the likes of Stephan Miller and just take a cut of the grift.

Agree on the 1st part - Trump has no honor, principles, etc - is just a con-man. 

 

But the "felon" bit - LOL!!  Those silly show-trials to make him look like the enemy of the big evil deep-state?   Never mind he did everything they wanted as president, without exception, the last time.

 

I am always surprised how Trump fans and haters will both buy the same propaganda-moves, simply taking opposite sides on the same thing.  

 

I just stick to policy - not personalities and the psy-ops run to build "energy" around them.  Either the candidate supports the policies I support, or they don't.  Neither Harris or Trump remotely support anything good for average Americans, so why would I support either? 

[cjinchiangrai]

44 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

So, I should just ignore all those saying they ARE replacing us in our homelands, and it is a "good thing" to do so?   Is "gentrification" of a neighborhood bad?  But doing the same thing to entire nations is not, somehow? 

 

Why are some people's cultures and traditions to be revered and respected, while others are to be derided and destroyed, even where the culture/traditions being attacked are of the indigenous people? 

 

Why are some people encouraged to celebrate having a homeland for their people, and others are condemned for the same? 

 

And, why is being CONSISTENT on this - supporting homelands + preservation of Culture and Traditions for ALL peoples - a "bad thing" - vs the Hypocritical position?

 

And, what does being Lebanese, Palestinian, or Israeli (= Semite) have to do with it?  What an ODD thing to say.  I doubt all of those which this comment ostensibly "defends" would want this association directed at them as a group.

On the "Gay Agenda" thing - are you really saying school districts did not include this propaganda in their official "curriculum" - rather than leave it to parents to discuss such matters with their children when THEY feel it is appropriate?   Have you missed the school board meetings where parents tried to read from the books in their school libraries, and were shut down for it being too pornographic?   Gay or Straight, that is INAPPROPRIATE for children - up to 18 years old.       

 

Once again, I have the CONSISTENT position - opposing ANY sexual-content directed at children.  Yet those who support pushing "gay" porn on kids will call that "bigoted." 

As bad as all that is, taking away a child's hope of EVER being a parent in a marriage with their own biological children, with castrating-drugs (which Trump supported in 2021) or surgical removal of parts of their bodies, is much, much worse.

All nonsense. Fascist lies echoed from Stephen Miller, AKA Reinhard Heydrich 2.0.

[Yagoda]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

All nonsense. Fascist lies echoed from Stephen Miller, AKA Reinhard Heydrich 2.0.

How can it be a lie if that's the goal of your lot?

 

By the way if Steven Miller is Reinhard heydrich, then Kamala Harris is Ilsa Koch

[Yellowtail]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Project 2025 is radically anti LGBT.

How is Project 2025 radically anti LGBT? 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Keep in mind that this is a Thai forum, not American. Everyone in Thailand knows some trans people and have no desire to remove their personal freedoms. This argument will get you and your Russian masters nowhere.

Keep in mind that this forum is in English and has a section for people to discuss world politics. This topic has nothing to do with Thailand, if their country likes and encourages sex changes it should be respected.  similarly  the rules of countries where gays are executed for perversion should also be respected, right?

 

I don't know how the Russians got involved but that's a typical trip of the morally and intellectually bankrupt, blame the Russians for everything.