Trump's Fiery Immigration Rhetoric Signals Potential for Turbulent Future

[Social Media]

 

Former President Donald Trump has intensified his immigration rhetoric, warning that the removal of migrants from the United States would be a "bloody story" if he is reelected in the upcoming election. Speaking at a campaign rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin, Trump’s remarks aligned closely with the Republican National Committee’s newly unveiled 2024 platform, which advocates for aggressive immigration enforcement and mass deportations.

 

During the rally, Trump declared, “And ya know getting them out will be a bloody story,” referring to his plans for large-scale removal of undocumented immigrants. He emphasized that these individuals “should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.” His comments, which underscore the hardline stance he intends to take on immigration if reelected, were captured in a video posted on X (formerly Twitter) by the account @KamalaHQ. The video quickly gained traction, amassing over 260,000 views.

 

The Republican National Committee (RNC) formalized its new immigration policy priorities on July 15 during the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. The platform positions the GOP firmly against the “open-border policies” they claim have led to a surge in illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and migrant crime. Among the key points are plans to seal the border, carry out the largest deportation operation in American history, and crack down on foreign drug cartels and gang violence. The platform also promises to reinstate policies from Trump’s previous administration, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, and to complete the border wall.

 

Ohio Senator JD Vance, Trump’s vice-presidential pick, echoed Trump’s sentiments at the convention, emphasizing the necessity of deporting individuals who have violated U.S. laws. Vance’s campaign has been particularly explicit, asserting that “We need to deport every single person who invaded our country illegally.” Trump has claimed that between 15 and 20 million people could be deported under his plan, though official estimates place the number of undocumented migrants in the U.S. at around 11 million.

 

Vance’s aggressive stance on immigration, however, contrasts with his personal life. His wife, Usha, is the daughter of Indian immigrants, whom he has praised for enriching the country. This has sparked some criticism from extremist figures within Trump’s Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement, questioning the authenticity of Vance’s views. Additionally, some Republican lawmakers have raised concerns about the feasibility of mass deportations. Representative Tony Gonzales, a Texas Republican representing the largest stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border, has expressed doubts, stating, “You’re not going to round up 10 million people and deport them. It’s simple—you do not have the infrastructure to do that.”

 

The immigration debate has become increasingly heated as both major political parties present starkly different visions ahead of the 2024 election. While Trump and the RNC advocate for a stringent, enforcement-focused approach, Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, has committed to reviving President Joe Biden’s failed bipartisan border security bill.

 

Recent data from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse indicates that over 620,000 immigration court deportation cases were filed in fiscal year 2023, resulting in approximately 236,000 removals—a figure surpassing the peak of 187,000 removals during Trump’s administration in 2019. Gonzales has also warned that a complete border shutdown would severely impact industries across the country, emphasizing that “There’s not one industry that is not tied to the U.S.-Mexico border.”

 

Credit: Newsweek 2024-09-09

 

 

 

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[Tug]

He’s just bleating to his base Mexico is our #1 trading partner if the border was completely shut down the US economy would tank.Last time I checked it’s still leagle to seek asylum there goes most of his hot air rite there.Why pray tell did the old dotard tank the immigration bill anyway?he doesent care about the border it’s just chum for the base no more no less.

[thaibeachlovers]

Trump's Fiery Immigration Rhetoric Signals Potential for Turbulent Future

 

If it results in the end of people paying criminal gangs to end up dying in the Darien, bring it on.

 

It should never have got to the stage it has. Blame politicians of both parties for that.

[thesetat2013]

I disagree. The undocumented, unchecked and illegal immigration problem is quite real. Depleting resources for the poor and needy who are citizens. Making a high risk for criminal activities. 11 million is quite high for a country to allow to happen. Even if 1% are military from another country waiting to attack the US from within, it is more than enough to take the country if war broke out. Even if .5 % are affiliated with drug activities or other criminal activities it is too much to allow. Yet Biden/Harris does not care what happens except to the big companies that send them millions and got them in their positions to lead the country. Trump at least recognised the problem and began to take steps to prevent it with his wall. He did not reject people applying to enter the US. He simply was trying to stop the illegal entries. Most people do not remember the Cuban and Haitian flotillas with thousands of illegals landing in Miami. Nor do they remember the crime/gangs/killings that came along with it. i was there and saw it all. It was no fun sitting on our rooftop with rifles and handguns trying to protect our home when these illegals decided to riot. At least they were placed in a camp to give immigration time to process each person. Biden/Harris just lets them go so they can be anywhere and unable to find later. What about the boatloads of immigrants going to New York in history. Even with checks upon their arrivals Mafias and criminals managed to enter. It will be a lot worse now with so many entering illegally and being allowed to walk away without any checks at all. 

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It should never have got to the stage it has. Blame politicians of both parties for that.

 

shhh you sound like a trump supporter.

[Tug]

41 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

shhh you sound like a trump supporter.

Ahh he is,he’s also a putin water boy loves to throw stones…..

[neeray]

Those subject to deportation shouldn't be losing too much sleep over the issue. The chances of this crazy old dementia-candidate gaining the title of President again become more limited every time he opens his lying, threatening mouth or tweets another incoherent message. The upcoming debate with Harris will just shame him all the more and cost the party that he ruined a few million more votes. The world is watching and laughing.

[Wake Up1]

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

I disagree. The undocumented, unchecked and illegal immigration problem is quite real. Depleting resources for the poor and needy who are citizens. Making a high risk for criminal activities. 11 million is quite high for a country to allow to happen. Even if 1% are military from another country waiting to attack the US from within, it is more than enough to take the country if war broke out. Even if .5 % are affiliated with drug activities or other criminal activities it is too much to allow. Yet Biden/Harris does not care what happens except to the big companies that send them millions and got them in their positions to lead the country. Trump at least recognised the problem and began to take steps to prevent it with his wall. He did not reject people applying to enter the US. He simply was trying to stop the illegal entries. Most people do not remember the Cuban and Haitian flotillas with thousands of illegals landing in Miami. Nor do they remember the crime/gangs/killings that came along with it. i was there and saw it all. It was no fun sitting on our rooftop with rifles and handguns trying to protect our home when these illegals decided to riot. At least they were placed in a camp to give immigration time to process each person. Biden/Harris just lets them go so they can be anywhere and unable to find later. What about the boatloads of immigrants going to New York in history. Even with checks upon their arrivals Mafias and criminals managed to enter. It will be a lot worse now with so many entering illegally and being allowed to walk away without any checks at all. 

Obviously you have never actually seen families of Mexico illegally in Texas working to survive starvation. You also have no clue the risks they take to get here.  Many more just like you and that is why the weird one must lose this election just like he lost the last election. He is a dangerous con man who somehow gets others to believe his lies and cons through attacks on others.  Everyday he lies and everyday he attacks and every day he makes America and the world less great. 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Wake Up1 said:

Obviously you have never actually seen families of Mexico illegally in Texas working to survive starvation. You also have no clue the risks they take to get here.  Many more just like you and that is why the weird one must lose this election just like he lost the last election. He is a dangerous con man who somehow gets others to believe his lies and cons through attacks on others.  Everyday he lies and everyday he attacks and every day he makes America and the world less great. 

Better informed people will know the scaremongering and disproved falsehoods spread by Trump. The fact is that Trump refused to solve the real issue of securing the border by tanking the toughest and fairest boder deal in decades for his own political gain. 

[thesetat2013]

1 hour ago, Wake Up1 said:

Obviously you have never actually seen families of Mexico illegally in Texas working to survive starvation. You also have no clue the risks they take to get here.  Many more just like you and that is why the weird one must lose this election just like he lost the last election. He is a dangerous con man who somehow gets others to believe his lies and cons through attacks on others.  Everyday he lies and everyday he attacks and every day he makes America and the world less great. 

Sounds like Harris also! Everyday lies and flip flopping on what she believes in or wants to do.

 

By the way, the illegals entering from Mexico is roughly half. This is not accurate because so many have never been asked or provided information to immigration as they flee crossing the borders illegally. 

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/US

 

But either way, illegal is illegal. unchecked and undocumented means a great security risk to every American family as well as the country. Your comment about mexican families only goes to show you only see a minority of the problem. You minimize this with a small percentage that could easily apply if to enter and be legal.

 

You aso seem to minimize the impact on funds available to the poor that are being given away to those people in each city they set up. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/explained-what-can-illegal-immigrants-get-free-united-states

https://lamborn.house.gov/issues/illegal-immigration

 

Biden only did this because these people can now vote for Democrats. Even without documentation they are given rights to help choose what happens in the US. 

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/is-illegal-immigration-really-a-democratic-plot-to-sway-congressional-apportionment

 

Even California is using the amount of illegals in their state to get their problem with housing fixed. Even citizens do not get this help. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/california-undocumented-immigrants-homes-00176253

 

Citizens only get help if they really do not need it. They usually need proof of income or collateral and really good credit. There are a few special programs made to help the poor but even then it is difficult to buy a home. 

 

I suggest... You WAKE UP.. Take off your Biden/Harris/Democrat blinders that leaves you sleepily thinking all is kosher in Denmark. 

 

I do not mean to say Trump is any better. So do not include me in your rhetoric about that. Both are liars. 

[newbee2022]

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Former President Donald Trump has intensified his immigration rhetoric, warning that the removal of migrants from the United States would be a "bloody story" if he is reelected in the upcoming election. Speaking at a campaign rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin, Trump’s remarks aligned closely with the Republican National Committee’s newly unveiled 2024 platform, which advocates for aggressive immigration enforcement and mass deportations.

 

During the rally, Trump declared, “And ya know getting them out will be a bloody story,” referring to his plans for large-scale removal of undocumented immigrants. He emphasized that these individuals “should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.” His comments, which underscore the hardline stance he intends to take on immigration if reelected, were captured in a video posted on X (formerly Twitter) by the account @KamalaHQ. The video quickly gained traction, amassing over 260,000 views.

 

The Republican National Committee (RNC) formalized its new immigration policy priorities on July 15 during the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. The platform positions the GOP firmly against the “open-border policies” they claim have led to a surge in illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and migrant crime. Among the key points are plans to seal the border, carry out the largest deportation operation in American history, and crack down on foreign drug cartels and gang violence. The platform also promises to reinstate policies from Trump’s previous administration, such as the "Remain in Mexico" policy, and to complete the border wall.

 

Ohio Senator JD Vance, Trump’s vice-presidential pick, echoed Trump’s sentiments at the convention, emphasizing the necessity of deporting individuals who have violated U.S. laws. Vance’s campaign has been particularly explicit, asserting that “We need to deport every single person who invaded our country illegally.” Trump has claimed that between 15 and 20 million people could be deported under his plan, though official estimates place the number of undocumented migrants in the U.S. at around 11 million.

 

 

Vance’s aggressive stance on immigration, however, contrasts with his personal life. His wife, Usha, is the daughter of Indian immigrants, whom he has praised for enriching the country. This has sparked some criticism from extremist figures within Trump’s Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement, questioning the authenticity of Vance’s views. Additionally, some Republican lawmakers have raised concerns about the feasibility of mass deportations. Representative Tony Gonzales, a Texas Republican representing the largest stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border, has expressed doubts, stating, “You’re not going to round up 10 million people and deport them. It’s simple—you do not have the infrastructure to do that.”

 

The immigration debate has become increasingly heated as both major political parties present starkly different visions ahead of the 2024 election. While Trump and the RNC advocate for a stringent, enforcement-focused approach, Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, has committed to reviving President Joe Biden’s failed bipartisan border security bill.

 

Recent data from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse indicates that over 620,000 immigration court deportation cases were filed in fiscal year 2023, resulting in approximately 236,000 removals—a figure surpassing the peak of 187,000 removals during Trump’s administration in 2019. Gonzales has also warned that a complete border shutdown would severely impact industries across the country, emphasizing that “There’s not one industry that is not tied to the U.S.-Mexico border.”

 

Credit: Newsweek 2024-09-09

 

 

 

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An old weirdo and his gibberish. It's embarrassing only.🥴

[xylophone]

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

Ah the man who wants to make "America Great Again" sporting a hat made in China!!

 

Edited September 9 by xylophone

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Wake Up1 said:

Obviously you have never actually seen families of Mexico illegally in Texas working to survive starvation. You also have no clue the risks they take to get here.  Many more just like you and that is why the weird one must lose this election just like he lost the last election. He is a dangerous con man who somehow gets others to believe his lies and cons through attacks on others.  Everyday he lies and everyday he attacks and every day he makes America and the world less great. 

By that logic a poor person that is hard off can go rob your house and get away with it because they had a hard life or such like. I don't think that is how it works.

 

If people in Mexico are hard done by, fix Mexico. The US isn't a charity for poor Mexicans.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

An old weirdo and his gibberish. It's embarrassing only.🥴

Only embarrassing to you and your ilk. I find Harris nauseating, but I don't think that applies to everyone.

[newbee2022]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only embarrassing to you and your ilk. I find Harris nauseating, but I don't think that applies to everyone.

Do you want honestly to have this criminal cheat as President? Disoriented, stuttering, weird? In 4 years he needs his pampers with 82. You would be proud to listen to this dement old fart? Better to lock him in a nursing home with a big fence🤗

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Sounds like Harris also! Everyday lies and flip flopping on what she believes in or wants to do.

 

By the way, the illegals entering from Mexico is roughly half. This is not accurate because so many have never been asked or provided information to immigration as they flee crossing the borders illegally. 

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/US

 

But either way, illegal is illegal. unchecked and undocumented means a great security risk to every American family as well as the country. Your comment about mexican families only goes to show you only see a minority of the problem. You minimize this with a small percentage that could easily apply if to enter and be legal.

 

You aso seem to minimize the impact on funds available to the poor that are being given away to those people in each city they set up. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/explained-what-can-illegal-immigrants-get-free-united-states

https://lamborn.house.gov/issues/illegal-immigration

 

Biden only did this because these people can now vote for Democrats. Even without documentation they are given rights to help choose what happens in the US. 

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/is-illegal-immigration-really-a-democratic-plot-to-sway-congressional-apportionment

 

Even California is using the amount of illegals in their state to get their problem with housing fixed. Even citizens do not get this help. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/california-undocumented-immigrants-homes-00176253

 

Citizens only get help if they really do not need it. They usually need proof of income or collateral and really good credit. There are a few special programs made to help the poor but even then it is difficult to buy a home. 

 

I suggest... You WAKE UP.. Take off your Biden/Harris/Democrat blinders that leaves you sleepily thinking all is kosher in Denmark. 

 

I do not mean to say Trump is any better. So do not include me in your rhetoric about that. Both are liars. 

You made some significant inaccurate statements in your post and it appears you didn't really read the links you posted or didn't understand what you read

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

You made some significant inaccurate statements in your post and it appears you didn't really read the links you posted or didn't understand what you read

I actually gain some knowledge from the links. Majority of unauthorized immigrants are employed and 28% owned house. They pay taxes and can't vote. 

[Dan O]

20 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I actually gain some knowledge from the links. Majority of unauthorized immigrants are employed and 28% owned house. They pay taxes and can't vote. 

I didn't say the information wasn't useful because it is. I just said the poster isn't presenting it accurately with his statements. When you read the content the information doesn't match his claims.

Edited September 9 by Dan O

[John Drake]

5 hours ago, Wake Up1 said:

Obviously you have never actually seen families of Mexico illegally in Texas working to survive starvation. You also have no clue the risks they take to get here.  Many more just like you and that is why the weird one must lose this election just like he lost the last election. He is a dangerous con man who somehow gets others to believe his lies and cons through attacks on others.  Everyday he lies and everyday he attacks and every day he makes America and the world less great. 

 

This post misrepresents Mexico in particular. Mexico is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. In fact, here in this list it's number 15, above Switzerland, Brazil, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Belgium, Singapore, Austria, Norway, and Denmark. It's 16 places higher than Thailand.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth

You also must not travel to Mexico very often. For over the past two decades, the country has modernized drastically. Mexican port facilities, telecommunications, railway transportation, and urban mass transit are not only the equal of the US but arguably better in many instances. Mexico has the advantage of an appealing and comfortable geography, huge oil, gold, and silver reserves, along with other minerals. It also enjoys a favorable location next to the world's largest economy. To picture Mexicans as uneducated, impoverished peons is a picture from 50 years ago. In fact it wasn't true 25 years ago, when I taught Mexican exchange students in my graduate classes at the University of Texas at Dallas. This post reflects a severe misunderstanding of illegal immigration, which is largely fueled by people from central and south america, Asia, and the caribbean. The fact is Mexican and US immigration patterns have largely stabilized over the past two decades.

[Eric Loh]

35 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I didn't say the information wasn't useful because it is. I just said the poster isn't presenting it accurately with his statements. When you read the content the information doesn't match his claims.

I was indirectly addressing the distorted claims by the poster with sarcastic jab.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Do you want honestly to have this criminal cheat as President? Disoriented, stuttering, weird? In 4 years he needs his pampers with 82. You would be proud to listen to this dement old fart? Better to lock him in a nursing home with a big fence🤗

IMO he's way better than Harris. I'd rather have neither running but gotta go with the lesser of two evils.

Edited September 10 by thaibeachlovers

[anotherexpat4444]

19 hours ago, xylophone said:

Ah the man who wants to make "America Great Again" sporting a hat made in China!!

 

these maga hats are selling so good that  lot of people are making money ordering from China . 

[shdmn]

[newbee2022]

52 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO he's way better than Harris. I'd rather have neither running but gotta go with the lesser of two evils.

Amazing. I would be ashamed to have a proven, convicted criminal as President. And with this "reputation" to meet his colleagues around the world. Who would accept him? 

[cjinchiangrai]

Stephen Miller is itching to take up his post to lead the final solution. Forget about those pesky due process rules.

[herfiehandbag]

On 9/9/2024 at 5:32 AM, thesetat2013 said:

What about the boatloads of immigrants going to New York in history. Even with checks upon their arrivals Mafias and criminals managed to enter. 

 

Have you considered that without that massive immigration (of which Mafia and criminals were a miniscule proportion) the population of the USA would be largely Native American ( brown skinned), Hispanics (brown skinned) and African Americans (brown skinned). The horror!

 

America is entirely built on immigration - with a strong tradition of displacing, oppressing and in many cases slaughtering minority communities. The MAGA enterprise is quite simply an early 21st Century manifestation of those "traditional values", which let us not beat about the bush, are largely racially driven.

Edited September 10 by herfiehandbag

[thesetat2013]

30 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

America is entirely built on immigration -

Yes immigration. But not illegal immigration.. You are MAGA paranoid. To instill most of what you do not like it would take voters and senates and many other official government entities. Yet, you act like the Prez can just say I want this. Make it law. Even Trump could not change laws that goes against the majority. But MAGA crazy and Democrat blindness makes you use any rhetoric as an excuse. 

[Tug]

15 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Yes immigration. But not illegal immigration.. You are MAGA paranoid. To instill most of what you do not like it would take voters and senates and many other official government entities. Yet, you act like the Prez can just say I want this. Make it law. Even Trump could not change laws that goes against the majority. But MAGA crazy and Democrat blindness makes you use any rhetoric as an excuse. 

Yes comrade……

[Eric Loh]

46 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Yes immigration. But not illegal immigration.. You are MAGA paranoid. To instill most of what you do not like it would take voters and senates and many other official government entities. Yet, you act like the Prez can just say I want this. Make it law. Even Trump could not change laws that goes against the majority. But MAGA crazy and Democrat blindness makes you use any rhetoric as an excuse. 

Most illegal immigrants didn't enter the country across the border. Most of them came to US legally and then don't leave. Those who sneaked were able to do so because the border agencies and technologies are overwhelmed. The bipartisan bill that Trump ripped off contained funds to address those deficiencies. You need to be better informed. 

[xylophone]

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

IMO he's way better than Harris. I'd rather have neither running but gotta go with the lesser of two evils.

How on earth you can come to that conclusion with all that trump has done over the past few years, and I'm sure you don't want me to list all of his crimes and misdemeanours here, but if you do, I will gladly do so, and perhaps you will see the error of your ways......but then again, there's none so blind as those that will not see!