Tm47 online submission "rejected"

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, cliveshep said:

Had they actually let me know with their acceptance of my application at the time I could have posted it as I used to do.

Given your mobility issue along with awareness of mail option, bit surprised you moved away from mail 90 report option as in my experience bullet proof.

My online reporting has not been successful for some time.

Also now they seem to be trying to sync TM30 with online reporting esp after international travel. 

Hopeless system despite some folks having zero issue. 

Thai use Atari 64

[cliveshep]

2 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Beware, this may only apply to CW, or even be a mistake.

My own IO report there are no changes, it's still within 15 days before up to the due date.
Others have also reported successfully filing in the remaining 7 days of the window.

 

What was the reason given for your refusal?

They apparently never explain themselves or give reasons and they didn't this time. The guidance manual does say top right it is a CW document but they are the main one anyway aren't they? As the document clearly shows only a 7 day window and I submitted one day outside that I assume that is the reason for the rejection.

[cliveshep]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Given your mobility issue along with awareness of mail option, bit surprised you moved away from mail 90 report option as in my experience bullet proof.

My online reporting has not been successful for some time.

Also now they seem to be trying to sync TM30 with online reporting esp after international travel. 

Hopeless system despite some folks having zero issue. 

Thai use Atari 64

Atari 64? Oh dear, do wonder I'm in the doo-doo then.

[cliveshep]

Given the comment about syncing TM 30 - I assume THAT doesn't expire does it? Not done one of those for a few years and as never been away from home overnight don't need to since the 1st one when we bought current home and stopped renting. 

Edited October 10 by cliveshep

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, cliveshep said:

Given the comment about syncing TM 30 - I assume THAT doesn't expire does it? Not done one of those for a few years and as never been away from home overnight don't need to since the 1st one when we bought current home and stopped renting. 

Only seems to be directed to reentry from international trip.

The change in rules June 2020 did away with TM30 requirement for out of provience and international travel..

TM30 became change of address.

Perhaps mail option is good fit for you

 

 

 

 

 

[Liquorice]

3 hours ago, cliveshep said:

They apparently never explain themselves or give reasons and they didn't this time.

The reason is usually stated on the email rejecting the report.

My recent rejections were for the details submitted not matching their database details, and the last simply to report in person to the office.

[josephbloggs]

At CW you have only a seven day window otherwise you will be rejected. I suspect many people don't know this (I didn't until I was rejected, went to CW to do it in person and saw this sign).

[walailak]

Just a quick update on this,

On the 16h today I had to be stamped so I also had made an a appointment for the 90 days report 

 

All good for the non O Extension Thai wife stamp good to go until Oct 31 2025.

 

I asked the immigration officer why was my online 90 days report submission got rejected three times and she basically said two words "reset system", whatever that means. 

 

Arrived at 1pm got the non O stamp then walked over to counter 66 for the 90 days appointment at 13.10, out by 13.15......

 

Hope this helps others ✌️

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, walailak said:

Just a quick update on this,

On the 16h today I had to be stamped so I also had made an a appointment for the 90 days report 

 

All good for the non O Extension Thai wife stamp good to go until Oct 31 2025.

 

I asked the immigration officer why was my online 90 days report submission got rejected three times and she basically said two words "reset system", whatever that means. 

 

Arrived at 1pm got the non O stamp then walked over to counter 66 for the 90 days appointment at 13.10, out by 13.15......

 

Hope this helps others ✌️

Which office?

[walailak]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Which office?

Changwatanna Bkk

[cliveshep]

Update - went to CM and because of age and bad legs got a priority ticket and taken into a booth. One other guy getting chemo in hospital was also there. So showed the IO the paper and said WHY was I rejected. She said you got to apply BEFORE 15 days. So I said but but but in your own CM manual it clearly gives a 7 day window from 15 days to 7 days before expiry. No she says, must be in the few days before the 15 day before expiry. After 15 days it will be rejected.

 

Then looks at my TM30 in my passport.  Says this has expired. Rubbish I say, it is not a licence or a limited period item, your laws say if I spend one night away from home in a hotel the hotel must fill in a TM 30 and when I get home my wife must also fill in a TM 30 BUT I say I have not been away from home since the date of the one in the passport. No says entitled I.O - its expired and you need new one. But I am not the one to fill the form in, so poor wife has to get sundry papers to prove who she is and where she lives and fill in forms whereupon I get a little slip stapled into my passport.

 

Need to do it again in one year says I.O as it expires. Gives me TM47 receipt after filling in another TM47 form. It is a stupid system, fill in application for TM67, they acknowledge receipt of details so I have complied with the law in telling them where I live. They then refuse to accept that until they issue a receipt or as we have seen reject it yet law has been complied with - they have been notified, just turn an official blind eye to the notification if it suits them. Clearly also the I.O's don't even read their own manual which according to a note on the top of the paper says it is issued by CM. So really no excuse for insisting on different date and time

rules. 

 

If the system refuses me again in 90 days less 15 - 17 days I'll post another one straight away. F***k struggling through traffic to CM and being unable to park because of the eternal roadworks just because of a moronic system where even the I.O's. ignore their own system and make up their own rules.

 

Pressed all my angry and frustrated buttons this fiasco has, totally unnecessary. If I was criminally minded I would not bother to fill in any of their forms and just live quietly under the radar and chances are they'd never find out until I died. I'm trapped because I am law-abiding trying to live under constantly changing rules and entitled I.O's.