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I wonder if this would actually be bribery under Thai law. If the beauty pageant umpires were counted as state officials then it would be clearcut bribery of an official and a crime. The Thai courts define "official" very widely.

 

Presumably there is a crime of "sporting bribery" but I can't find it after a quick Google search. If this exists then does a beauty pageant count as a sport in that law? My guess is it does.

 

In any event, the cheeky manager seems to have committed fraud. I don't believe it would make any difference to his defence that what he was falsely offering was in fact a crime and so the victim "deserved it" etc etc. 

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3 minutes ago, digbeth said:

if she's a real beauty the organizer would probably asks for other kind of payments

 

That's what wh0re mongers would do. Thanks for admitting what you are

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5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, with beauty comes stupidity! Did not think! Don´t have to think to know such things.

Clearer not always, as in your case.

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3 minutes ago, nakhonandy said:

That's interesting, one financial fraudster suing another financial fraudster!

I seriously doubt that the criminal courts care about this and civil courts would cost them both money. Pointless. 

 

that pretty much sums it up.

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If she was proactive and aggressive enough, she could get all the money back from this fool. She would just need to take action into her own hands, engage in massive public humiliation, and shaming by outing this guy on every level possible, and my guess is he would pay her off just to get his life back.

 

I've used this technique before with great success. 

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11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

A Thai beauty queen demanded justice after a beauty pageant manager deceived her into paying 800,000 baht to secure a crown.

 

The 27 year old beauty queen, Panicha, also known as Lemon,

A lemon... the name seems appropriate

 

6 hours ago, still kicking said:

The word bribery is not in the Thai dictionary.

Borrow sadly is.

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10 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, with beauty comes stupidity! Did not think! Don´t have to think to know such things.

People also ask     What does lemon mean in slang?
foolish !
 
and as far as beauty ?          don't quite tik all the boxes either !
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50 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:
People also ask     What does lemon mean in slang?
foolish !
 
and as far as beauty ?          don't quite tik all the boxes either !

That´s soo true.

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Nice body. To bad they blurred the face. My guess is she could have won the beauty contest with more success to be #1 if she was offering herself to the judges. 

Pretty and sexy surely does not mean intelligent or smart in this instance. 

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6 hours ago, kwilco said:

Clearer not always, as in your case.

And you deem yourself qualified to make such a judgement based only on comments in an online forum?

 

Wonder who is stupid now.

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8 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Nice body. To bad they blurred the face. My guess is she could have won the beauty contest with more success to be #1 if she was offering herself to the judges. 

Pretty and sexy surely does not mean intelligent or smart in this instance. 

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

If she was proactive and aggressive enough, she could get all the money back from this fool. She would just need to take action into her own hands, engage in massive public humiliation, and shaming by outing this guy on every level possible, and my guess is he would pay her off just to get his life back.

 

I've used this technique before with great success. 

Except she would most likely face charges of defamation and end up paying even more or face jail time too.

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15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

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A Thai beauty queen demanded justice after a beauty pageant manager deceived her into paying 800,000 baht to secure a crown.

 

The 27 year old beauty queen, Panicha, also known as Lemon, sought help from non-profit organisation Saimai Survive after she was allegedly duped by the manager of a renowned beauty pageant in the central province of Suphan Buri.

 

Lemon explained that she won numerous beauty pageants in various provinces across Thailand and planned to take a break from her beauty queen journey. However, the manager of this particular contest contacted her on July 13 last year and persuaded her to postpone her break.

 

According to Lemon, the manager urged her to join the pageant, even guaranteeing her the winner’s title if she agreed to pay 200,000 baht. Lemon admitted that she agreed to join the contest and paid the bribe in instalments over three months.

 

Lemon said she was confident in her ability to win without bribery but agreed to pay to ensure her victory. She did not think carefully about the legality of her actions and simply wanted to seize the opportunity for herself.


The beauty pageant took place in March of this year. During the contest, the manager pressured her to pay more to support the contest and find sponsors for the pageant. The manager also borrowed money from her, claiming it would support the event.

 

In total, Lemon paid 800,000 baht to support both the pageant and the manager. However, despite her contributions, she only reached the top five but did not win the pageant as promised.

 

Lemon revealed that she immediately questioned why she had not won, and the manager responded that her body shape and abilities had not been sufficient for the winning position.

 

Lemon believes that she is not the first victim of this manager and has stepped forward to seek justice for herself and other victims. The beauty queen emphasised that she respects the winner of the contest and has no personal issues with her.

 

Saimai Survive has taken up her case and plans to follow up on the matter with the police station where Lemon filed her complaint.

 

By Petch Petpailin

Photo via Matichon

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-10-04

 

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Lemon's a sucker. Dishonest. Serves her right. Maybe politics is her forte?

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3 minutes ago, Celsius said:

She is beautiful.

 

I would like to propose. 

Divorce and domestic violence would most likely be in your future together

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9 hours ago, nakhonandy said:

That's interesting, one financial fraudster suing another financial fraudster!

I seriously doubt that the criminal courts care about this and civil courts would cost them both money. Pointless. 

It's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black

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3 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Divorce and domestic violence would most likely be in your future together

 

The marriage would be a lemon 

Posted
12 hours ago, Gaccha said:

I wonder if this would actually be bribery under Thai law. If the beauty pageant umpires were counted as state officials then it would be clearcut bribery of an official and a crime. The Thai courts define "official" very widely.

 

Presumably there is a crime of "sporting bribery" but I can't find it after a quick Google search. If this exists then does a beauty pageant count as a sport in that law? My guess is it does.

 

In any event, the cheeky manager seems to have committed fraud. I don't believe it would make any difference to his defense that what he was falsely offering was in fact a crime and so the victim "deserved it" etc etc. 

You are actually totally right, when you can´t find anything regarding out of State official affairs regarding bribery, That is because it does not exist. Neither in the Penal Code B.E. 2499 nor in the Organic Act on Anti-Corruption B.E. 2561. The sections that takes up the matter are 128, 144 and 167. They are only regulating briberies regarding State officials, or a person working for an authority spreading knowledge of the authority that was not intended to be public knowledge.

 

To sum it up. The provisions of the Organic Act are again mainly applicable to the public sector, and there is no prohibition or restriction under the Organic Act on the acceptance of any offering in relation to bribery or corruption applicable to the private sector. While the law is applicable only towards the public sector, many private sector entities have also adopted this measure as an internal anti-bribery policy. However, such adoption is not mandatory.

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