Trump's Claim of Gaza Visit Draws Scrutiny Amid Factual Discrepancies

[candide]

9 minutes ago, rasg said:

Tee hee. John Durham is about to get started. He got the evidence that he needed on the Clinton campaign, the Steele dossier etc.

In your MAGA alternate universe only. 😀

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

We must live in alternate universes then. No one in my universe cares about Trump or Harris. It's just not a topic of conversation.

The exception for me is on here, of course. If it were a decent Dem candidate I wouldn't care either, but IMO Harris is so bad as to put us all in danger if she gets elected. I think she just doesn't have the fiber to be able to do an adequate job. I'm certain that every sensible leader on the planet is privately aghast that she might be the POTUS. I'm also certain that Putin and Xi are hoping she will be the winner.

You live in New Zealand. Of course nobody cares about the US election.

 

But in the USA, it's a big issue.

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, rasg said:

Well Hillary has spent the last week explaining that the Libtards want to change the freedom of speech laws with good old fashioned censorship so there is that for starters. They hate the truth which is why they being hit from every angle at the moment AND it's about to get a lot worse for them.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Hillary Clinton commented on the dangers of commercial social media platforms using propaganda to influence elections. Don't you agree that could be a problem?

[Danderman123]

40 minutes ago, rasg said:

Tee hee. John Durham is about to get started. He got the evidence that he needed on the Clinton campaign, the Steele dossier etc.

The drugs have obviously kicked in.

[rasg]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

And that's the whole point. You have no idea about what is REALLY going on in your own country because you believe everything that Hillary Clinton tells you. You will find out very shortly.

[0ffshore360]

IMHO MAGA followers have repeatedly demonstrated gullibility based in ignorance and primal greed.

Little different or same or are Evangelical morons blindly funding liar grifters to their graves!

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, rasg said:

And that's the whole point. You have no idea about what is REALLY going on in your own country because you believe everything that Hillary Clinton tells you. You will find out very shortly.

You are just spouting nonsense at this point.

 

You need to lay off the whiskey, and get some sleep.

[gamb00ler]

On 10/9/2024 at 11:05 AM, renaissanc said:

Conspiracy theories will continue to abound .....  SNIP

Is there an echo in here?

Edited yesterday at 10:41 AM by gamb00ler

[gamb00ler]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm certain that every sensible leader on the planet is privately aghast that she might be the POTUS. I'm also certain that Putin and Xi are hoping she will be the winner.

Ya just gotta love such "certainty" from those laboring beyond their ken.

[rasg]

25 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Hillary Clinton commented on the dangers of commercial social media platforms using propaganda to influence elections. Don't you agree that could be a problem?

Isn't it funny? You are happy that Mark Zuckerberg, Google, YouTube and others were influencing the election in 2020 because it allowed the Dems to win. Zuckerberg to the tune of $420 million to "fortify" the election in the Dem's favour" and also to censor anti Dem voices. By the way. Fortify the election means cheat.

It's well documented and Zuckerberg has been trying to cover his backside over the last few weeks by apologising for it. Not only for suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story but also for the $420 million Zuckerbucks scam.
 

[candide]

17 minutes ago, rasg said:

Isn't it funny? You are happy that Mark Zuckerberg, Google, YouTube and others were influencing the election in 2020 because it allowed the Dems to win. Zuckerberg to the tune of $420 million to "fortify" the election in the Dem's favour" and also to censor anti Dem voices. By the way. Fortify the election means cheat.

It's well documented and Zuckerberg has been trying to cover his backside over the last few weeks by apologising for it. Not only for suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story but also for the $420 million Zuckerbucks scam.
 

"fortify" the election in the Dem's favour"

Do you have a source for this 'quote' or did just just make it up?

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Inderpland said:

LOL, let's agree to disagree on who's living in an alternative universe.

 

Much of the world is terrified by another Trump presidency. Here’s why

someones opinion..wow, thats proof right there then

[Inderpland]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

someones opinion..wow, thats proof right there then

Yes, I agree the arguments are quite convincing.

[shdmn]

On 10/8/2024 at 8:38 AM, connda said:

Why is the Biden/Harris movement so susceptible to crazy conspiracy theories that MAGA are somehow all conspiracy theorists?  Really - the Left are actually the bull-goose loonies who are completely out of touch with reality.  The Lefties project their own psychosis onto the conservative right and claim they are the crazies when it's the progressive Left who are completely nuts.  Tampons in the boy's bathrooms.  Men can have babies.  Ha ha ha ha ha! 

Change my mind! 

Most of us would rather just point and laugh at you.  Anyone still supporting the convicted felon fraudster is beyond hope.

Edited yesterday at 01:32 PM by shdmn

[spidermike007]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

We must live in alternate universes then. No one in my universe cares about Trump or Harris. It's just not a topic of conversation.

The exception for me is on here, of course. If it were a decent Dem candidate I wouldn't care either, but IMO Harris is so bad as to put us all in danger if she gets elected. I think she just doesn't have the fiber to be able to do an adequate job. I'm certain that every sensible leader on the planet is privately aghast that she might be the POTUS. I'm also certain that Putin and Xi are hoping she will be the winner.

I completely disagree about Putin, Orban, and Kim. Trump is such an easy mark, those guys have Trump in the palm of their hands, Trump is at their beck and call. Same with MBS. Xi does not want Trump. His massive tax hikes (tariffs) will harm China. And America. 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I completely disagree about Putin, Orban, and Kim. Trump is such an easy mark, those guys have Trump in the palm of their hands, Trump is at their beck and call. Same with MBS. Xi does not want Trump. His massive tax hikes (tariffs) will harm China. And America. 

I don't know what you are disagreeing with. I'm no fan of any of them.

 

I'm sure they want her instead of him as she is so predictable, unlike Trump who no one can predict or even understand, which makes him dangerous to America's enemies.

 

You even agree with me about Xi wanting her, from what you wrote in your post.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, shdmn said:

Most of us would rather just point and laugh at you.  Anyone still supporting the convicted felon fraudster is beyond hope.

That would include the millions of Americans that will vote for him. I guess you agree with HRC then, LOL.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Ya just gotta love such "certainty" from those laboring beyond their ken.

Pot kettle black.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, rasg said:

And that's the whole point. You have no idea about what is REALLY going on in your own country because you believe everything that Hillary Clinton tells you. You will find out very shortly.

Not forgetting the man behind the curtain pulling the strings.

[Captain Flack]

A post which is against forum rules and refers to an imaginary disease has been removed.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know what you are disagreeing with. I'm no fan of any of them.

 

I'm sure they want her instead of him as she is so predictable, unlike Trump who no one can predict or even understand, which makes him dangerous to America's enemies.

 

You even agree with me about Xi wanting her, from what you wrote in your post.

Absolutely. I don't think a Harris administration would be ignorant enough to impose massive tariffs, like the ones Trump is proposing. The consumer ends up footing the bill, making it a huge tax hike. Xi has to be afraid of these proposals. Though, he likely enjoys the idea of the tariffs making America's economy weaker and raising inflation. 

Edited 19 hours ago by spidermike007

[simple1]

On 10/8/2024 at 3:47 PM, Inderpland said:

MTG, here we go again.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene Is Now Adding Lasers to Her Hurricane Helene Conspiracy

 

I think the answer to the question is that the MAGA movement is a cult. As such, it's a faith based movement where facts are only used in the few cases where it seems to support whatever narrative they push.

Most of the time facts are just ignored and they just make up s***, like these hairbrained conspiracy theories. Beggars belief.

 

IMO Constitution needs to be amended to remove representatives repeatedly pushing conspiracy and proven outright lies. In other words not complying to their Oath of Office as happened during the impeachment process against trump

[mdr224]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Absolutely. I don't think a Harris administration would be ignorant enough to impose massive tariffs, like the ones Trump is proposing. The consumer ends up footing the bill, making it a huge tax hike. Xi has to be afraid of these proposals. Though, he likely enjoys the idea of the tariffs making America's economy weaker and raising inflation. 

Still ignorant to the fact biden kept trumps tariffs as they are

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Absolutely. I don't think a Harris administration would be ignorant enough to impose massive tariffs, like the ones Trump is proposing. The consumer ends up footing the bill, making it a huge tax hike. Xi has to be afraid of these proposals. Though, he likely enjoys the idea of the tariffs making America's economy weaker and raising inflation. 

IMO Trump wants to make America stronger. It's not strong when everything is made in China, as China is in the seat of power in a relationship like that. If Trump makes it economical to return manufacturing to the US, that a win for America as it stops China getting money to build it's military and it makes America stronger, as it's not dependant on an enemy state for it's goods.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Trump wants to make America stronger. It's not strong when everything is made in China, as China is in the seat of power in a relationship like that. If Trump makes it economical to return manufacturing to the US, that a win for America as it stops China getting money to build it's military and it makes America stronger, as it's not dependant on an enemy state for it's goods.

US companies off shored manufacturing to PRC to increase profitability and competitiveness and increase shareholder value. Still do so with countries such as Vietnam and India who are being used as a political alternative to PRC. Should PRC cases manufacturing components for US to put pressure on USA it would create a massive negative impact on USA along with trump wishing to deport millions of people, though I suspect deportation at that level is impossible.  trump's tariffs cost the US economy billions of dollars and did not decrease the trade gap, actually increased the trade gap. trump companies are still using PRC as a supplier e.g. trump bibles. Somewhat past due for trump supporters to comprehend the stupidity of trump's so called trade polices and his blatant hypocrisy.

[impulse]

14 hours ago, candide said:

"fortify" the election in the Dem's favour"

Do you have a source for this 'quote' or did just just make it up?

 

“The participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream — a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information,” 

 

https://wibc.com/103360/time-magazine-bombshell-the-shadow-campaign-that-saved-the-2020-election/

 

The original TIME article is blocked here, but maybe you can link it?

 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

“The participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream — a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information,” 

 

https://wibc.com/103360/time-magazine-bombshell-the-shadow-campaign-that-saved-the-2020-election/

 

The original TIME article is blocked here, but maybe you can link it?

 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

Thanks for the cherry picked quote:

 For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

[impulse]

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for the cherry picked quote:

 For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

Yeah.  Nothing says democracy like a cabal of powerful people, mostly from the left, changing the laws and controlling the flow of information to keep one candidate from getting elected. 

 

And the TIME article is them bragging about it.

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

“The participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream — a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information,” 

 

https://wibc.com/103360/time-magazine-bombshell-the-shadow-campaign-that-saved-the-2020-election/

 

The original TIME article is blocked here, but maybe you can link it?

 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

So where is the quote "fortify" the election in the Dem's favour"?

[rasg]

11 hours ago, candide said:

So where is the quote "fortify" the election in the Dem's favour"?

In the paragraph just above "The Architect".

I can see that this article will be used against the left in any court cases of voter fraud over the coming months. If you actually read the article you will see that many laws were broken.