2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

At least you speak your mind, I salute you for that.

 

One thing is clear, if she comes home with a std, it is over, but again, that's noe likely, and not something I gamble on. 

 

 

 

To me, if a girl cheats, STD or not, its over.  Done. Immediately. Pack your bags and get out. Kick in the ass is for free. If she's lucky I'll throw the phone I got her on the street if she leaves and drive her to the bus stop.

 

But if she cheats, the whole foundation of the relationship is destroyed. Plus she showed, in her mind, you are not her top choice.

Just now, Hummin said:

At least you speak your mind, I salute you for that.

 

One thing is clear, if she comes home with a std, it is over, but again, that's noe likely, and not something I gamble on. 

 

 

You have to trust your partner 100% or you will ruin the relationship. The same for her. If you treat them with love, respect, care, communicate well, and don't neglect them, it's on them if they go astray, and usually because they came from a dysfunctional childhood, with either an absent dad or one who didn't treat them well.

35 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's almost necessary to have "insurance" in Thailand, to have 3 or 4 girls in the background, since the chances of her up and running seems so high.

 

Wow.... are you 5 years old?

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

To me, if a girl cheats, STD or not, its over.  Done. Immediately. Pack your bags and get out. Kick in the ass is for free. If she's lucky I'll throw the phone I got her on the street if she leaves and drive her to the bus stop.

 

But if she cheats, the whole foundation of the relationship is destroyed. Plus she showed, in her mind, you are not her top choice.

Again, why go and worry and make your life a living hell for what she might do? If you do not trust her, leave her. That's my opinion.

 

It is nothing I go around worry about. 

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Again, why go and worry and make your life a living hell for what she might do? If you do not trust her, leave her. That's my opinion.

 

It is nothing I go around worry about. 

 

That's nothing compared to the actual hell you would live if she did cheat.

 

It would be naive not to consider this possibility.

21 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's nothing compared to the actual hell you would live if she did cheat.

 

It would be naive not to consider this possibility.

To be true, it would not be the end of my days, if she does, I hope she have good reasons. 

 

It could be kind of kincky to, get a bit jealouse and maybe it gives the dying sexl life a new spirit if she does, who knows. Frankly we still have a healthy sex life, but if we suddenly dropped to once a week, or once a month I would be worried for the future for sure. 

 

You choose what you want to worry about, and some just worry because they have nothing else to worry about. 

 

If she choose to be with another, it is just a new start for me, while for her? who knows

Just now, Hummin said:

To be true, it would not be the end of my days, if she does, I hope she have good reasons. 

 

It could be kind of kincky to, get a bit jealouse and maybe it gives the dying sexl life a new spirit if she does, who knows. Frankly we still have a healthy sex life, but if we suddenly dropped to once a week, or once a month I would be worried for the future for sure. 

 

You choose what you want to worry about, and some just worry because they have nothing else to worry about. 

 

If she choose to be with another, it is just a new start for me, while for her? who knows

 

Who knows? What do you mean?

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

There are absolutely no excuses for either a man or a woman to cheat. If you don't like who you are with, leave. Cheating while you're still together is the most underhanded, low thing a person can do to another. Attraction brings most people together, besides the gold diggers who will have sex with anything for enough cash. A normal woman or man will not cheat. Attraction doesn't keep people together. Some use the excuse of losing financial if they leave so cheat and stay. Still a lowlife. You get with someone, you either stay or leave. If you don't like what they've become or they didn't show the real them in the beginning, you leave. If you want someone to stay, treat them as you did in the beginning, and this goes both ways.

Not sure what the relevance your post is to mine but one thing is certain.

 

Jesus has a place for you in heaven.

Just now, G_Money said:

Not sure what the relevance your post is to mine but one thing is certain.

 

Jesus has a place for you in heaven.

Your post made it look like you thought there are excuses for a woman's cheating. I replied there isn't any excuses for cheating.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Your post made it look like you thought there are excuses for a woman's cheating. I replied there isn't any excuses for cheating.

I disagree.  My post proves why it could happen 

Just now, G_Money said:

I disagree.  My post proves why it could happen 

It can, and does, but there are still no excuses for letting it happen. People make all kinds of excuses for bad behavior, thinking it somehow lets them off the hook. Cheating is the worse thing you can do to someone you're supposed to care for. It's a learned behavior, either by watching someone you loved cheat, or as revenge if someone did it to you. Not a good way to prove a point Like I said, just leave.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

Wow.... are you 5 years old?

I think a lot of girls do this.

They may have contacts with men.

Doesn't mean they are sleeping with them, but maybe they are sending them subtle hints that they would be available in case things fail with the man they are with. 

 

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It can, and does, but there are still no excuses for letting it happen. People make all kinds of excuses for bad behavior, thinking it somehow lets them off the hook. Cheating is the worse thing you can do to someone you're supposed to care for. It's a learned behavior, either by watching someone you loved cheat, or as revenge if someone did it to you. Not a good way to prove a point Like I said, just leave.

Have you considered standing the sidewalk in Walking Street preaching your sermon?

 

They’ll listen.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I think a lot of girls do this.

They may have contacts with men.

Doesn't mean they are sleeping with them, but maybe they are sending them subtle hints that they would be available in case things fail with the man they are with. 

 

 

They cannot help but have contact with men online, if their Facebook, Tiktok, Insta etc are open. And of course most Thai girls want it to be open. So if they are exceptionally good looking every photo is commented on by guys, DMs flood in.

 

Temptation is ever present for the attractive young girl. And they do reply, even if they just write inane comments, just to stoke the fire. I have seen it.

Just now, G_Money said:

Have you considered standing the sidewalk in Walking Street preaching your sermon?

 

They’ll listen.

No, they won't. Reason being, evil exists everywhere, and always has, and it is the reason the world has so many problems. Immorality ruins relationships, and the offspring from these relationships are tainted because of it. I'm hardly  a prude. I just respect women, and abhor cheating, as anyone should. No excuses besides disturbed behavior. Comes down through the generations, taught, and is why so many people get angry at others, hurt and sometimes kill. I never said you couldn't date many people. It's actually the best way to weed out undesirables, to find your best match. It doesn't mean you can cheat on anyone you're supposedly in a one on one relationship with.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

They cannot help but have contact with men online, if their Facebook, Tiktok, Insta etc are open. And of course most Thai girls want it to be open. So if they are exceptionally good looking every photo is commented on by guys, DMs flood in.

 

Temptation is ever present for the attractive young girl. And they do reply, even if they just write inane comments, just to stoke the fire. I have seen it.

 

Realistically, dating an 18 year old may not be the best idea.

They mostly lack the maturity to be loyal.

And the attention they get on social media makes it even harder. 

But your age span is 18-32? Huge difference. They shouldn't be in the same category at all. 

In society, adulthood is considered 18, but maybe real adulthood is around 28? Give or take, as different people mature differently.

But that's why the average age people get married is around 28. 

But 18 year olds aren't adults in the sense of understanding loyalty. 

 

16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Realistically, dating an 18 year old may not be the best idea.

They mostly lack the maturity to be loyal.

And the attention they get on social media makes it even harder. 

But your age span is 18-32? Huge difference. They shouldn't be in the same category at all. 

In society, adulthood is considered 18, but maybe real adulthood is around 28? Give or take, as different people mature differently.

But that's why the average age people get married is around 28. 

But 18 year olds aren't adults in the sense of understanding loyalty. 

 

That's true to a point but loyalty is taught at a very early age, by girls watching how their dad, the first role model, treats her mom, and then how other males in her circle treat their women. Young, pretty girls have many options as far as getting men interested in them. The older they get, the less options they have. A person's brain isn't fully developed until their mid twenties at the least. Irrational decisions are made because of this, but again, if a girl sees moral behavior by her father, that's what she'll look for, and watching her mom with that father, how she'll act when she gets older. Of course peer pressure makes a lot of teens have sex with boys who couldn't care less, just because their friends are doing it. Everyone is different and some girls grow up smart quick, and some let hormones ruin their thinking and actions. Your reply dating an 18 year old not being the best idea is spot on. Teens should be dating teens. A girl under 25 is still very immature in her thinking, although she's slowly getting there.

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I still can't get over that story

That was in my early days - I've since learned and I'm sure others will confirm, that its by no means unique.

 

There is a certain 'block' of the Thai female population that 'target' foreigners and I'd suggest that such behaviour is far more prevalent amongst that block.

13 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I have limited experience because I'm not looking for a girlfriend, but the two I've had 19, 21 were very loyal, could tell they really liked me, that's the key. Girls are not interested in other men if they're are happy with you

You think? were you with them 24 hours per day?  I know (knew) a married woman that used to meet a guy during her lunchbreaks from work.

 

When I questioned my ex as to why she needed to play around so much she said she wanted to try others - how would she know she had the best if she never tried 😁.

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

Not sure what the relevance your post is to mine but one thing is certain.

 

Jesus has a place for you in heaven.

Why bring HIM into it? Did his Mum cheat on Joseph with God?

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Realistically, dating an 18 year old may not be the best idea.

They mostly lack the maturity to be loyal.

And the attention they get on social media makes it even harder. 

But your age span is 18-32? Huge difference. They shouldn't be in the same category at all. 

In society, adulthood is considered 18, but maybe real adulthood is around 28? Give or take, as different people mature differently.

But that's why the average age people get married is around 28. 

But 18 year olds aren't adults in the sense of understanding loyalty. 

 

 

When I was confronted with the brutal reality that my Filipina Angel was a serial dating cheating semi prostitute in 2018 it was worse than anything I had experienced in inter-human relationships. I met her when she was 24. One of the constant issues was her Danish ex and her constantly writing behind my back. So after that ended I had thought about things, and I concluded that it would be far preferable to date 18 to 24 year olds who'd had very  few boyfriends. Just so I would not have to deal with the baggage of the ex boyfriends, plus of course women peak at 18 physically. 

 

But unfortunately you may have a point, 18 and 24 year olds do not seem to have the maturity to be loyal, or rather, they want to "explore their options".

 

The reason why people marry around 29 is that it is just one year before the male reaches his maximum earning potential, so women want to lock him in just before.

 

Having said all this, my wife of 20 years whom I met as a 19 year old DID know the value of loyalty. She was always loyal. It was just these three Asian 24 year olds who were not. Maybe it has more to do with Asian girls, than 19 - 24 immaturity.

 

Hard to say. But both girls who brutally cheated on me before were 24 and Asian.

21 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

That was in my early days - I've since learned and I'm sure others will confirm, that its by no means unique.

 

There is a certain 'block' of the Thai female population that 'target' foreigners and I'd suggest that such behaviour is far more prevalent amongst that block.

 

No, it is clearly not unique, and  you do learn, but even with that experience, you are not immune to the female Asian cheater.

 

I completely agree that those Thai girls who have a strong preference for foreigners are by far more likely to cheat.

14 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

When I questioned my ex as to why she needed to play around so much she said she wanted to try others - how would she know she had the best if she never tried 😁.

 

Yes, like my Filipina ex. She thought she'd try a 59 year old American, didn't like him and stayed in a rel with me. Only much later did I find out how she cheated when she confessed it.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

When I was confronted with the brutal reality that my Filipina Angel was a serial dating cheating semi prostitute in 2018 it was worse than anything I had experienced in inter-human relationships. I met her when she was 24. One of the constant issues was her Danish ex and her constantly writing behind my back. So after that ended I had thought about things, and I concluded that it would be far preferable to date 18 to 24 year olds who'd had very  few boyfriends. Just so I would not have to deal with the baggage of the ex boyfriends, plus of course women peak at 18 physically. 

 

But unfortunately you may have a point, 18 and 24 year olds do not seem to have the maturity to be loyal, or rather, they want to "explore their options".

 

The reason why people marry around 29 is that it is just one year before the male reaches his maximum earning potential, so women want to lock him in just before.

 

Having said all this, my wife of 20 years whom I met as a 19 year old DID know the value of loyalty. She was always loyal. It was just these three Asian 24 year olds who were not. Maybe it has more to do with Asian girls, than 19 - 24 immaturity.

 

Hard to say. But both girls who brutally cheated on me before were 24 and Asian.

 

That's an interesting phrase "brutally cheated on me." 

 

I have a mate who I refer to as "Jesus Syndrome." That's the male tendency to do deals with themselves, making plans and mapping the future. 

 

It's a real issue with the utter mugs that actually believe what Thai women tell them - especially the bar girl variety, but not just them. 

 

If it makes any difference, I know Thai men ( including my pal ) who are just as inept as the infamous White Knight brigade. I've seen far too many scandalous and bizarre incidents between Thai women and farangs, but also Thai-on-Thai too. 

 

Here's the bottom line - the brutal truth? 

 

Once she decides you are a mug she'll treat you like a mug. 

33 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

That's an interesting phrase "brutally cheated on me." 

 

I have a mate who I refer to as "Jesus Syndrome." That's the male tendency to do deals with themselves, making plans and mapping the future. 

 

It's a real issue with the utter mugs that actually believe what Thai women tell them - especially the bar girl variety, but not just them. 

 

If it makes any difference, I know Thai men ( including my pal ) who are just as inept as the infamous White Knight brigade. I've seen far too many scandalous and bizarre incidents between Thai women and farangs, but also Thai-on-Thai too. 

 

Here's the bottom line - the brutal truth? 

 

Once she decides you are a mug she'll treat you like a mug. 

 

What I meant by that was that 2 weeks after we met and she declared her undying love she went on a fornication holiday with another man, that was months in the planning. Her confession too was not full, but rather brutal in scope, then it when became fuller still it was almost unbearable. I could not work, I was not functional for 2 weeks or so. It was basically like finding out the person you thought existed does not exist, like the present and past do not exist, nor the future. You give a person your trust and they lie and cheat, it is by far the worst emotional experience you could make.

 

There is a reason why in Dante's Inferno Infidelity and treachery are in the 9th circle of hell, the lowest one. The ninth circle of hell is where Satan resides. By committing adultery a woman destroys the very foundation of human interaction, trust.

 

I have always stayed away from bar girls. And nevertheless, the women I met, who were "normal"  women, may as well have been bar girls by the  diabolical nature of their behaviour, it is hard to imagine that bar girls could be worse.

 

Of course, it is a learning processs, and Thai men are not immune to this. 

 

I was not easily deceived by any of the women who cheated on me. Each time, they had to go through elaborate schemes of lies and deception to effect their cheating. Bear in mind the first woman who cheated on me, the Filipina, had planned her trip with another man 2 weeks after meeting me for months, ie months BEFORE meeting me. The thing is there will always be cheaters. You can legislate against it, but it does not matter, those inclined to cheat will always find a way to do so. They lie and you have no way of knowing it is a lie. Only later does the truth come out. I'll give you an example. The Filipina had told me she'd had 2 boyfriends. In fact she'd had 6 and cheated on every single one. There is no way you can know what is a lie and what is truth sometimes. You're not a "mug", you're a victim of lies.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What I meant by that was that 2 weeks after we met and she declared her undying love she went on a fornication holiday with another man, that was months in the planning. Her confession too was not full, but rather brutal in scope, then it when became fuller still it was almost unbearable. I could not work, I was not functional for 2 weeks or so. It was basically like finding out the person you thought existed does not exist, like the present and past do not exist, nor the future. You give a person your trust and they lie and cheat, it is by far the worst emotional experience you could make.

 

There is a reason why in Dante's Inferon Infidelity and treachery are in the 9th circle of hell, the lowest one. The ninth circle of hell is where Satan resides. By committing adultery a woman destroys the very foundation of human interaction, trust.

 

I have always stayed away from bar girls. And nevertheless, the women I met, who were "normal"  women, may as well have been bar girls by the  diabolical nature of their behaviour, it is hard to imagine that bar girls could be worse.

 

Of course, it is a learning processs, and Thai men are not immune to this. 

 

I was not easily deceived by any of the women who cheated on me. Each time, they had to go through elaborate schemes of lies and deception to effect their cheating. Bear in mind the first woman who cheated on me, the Filipina, had planned her trip with another man 2 weeks after meeting me for months, ie months BEFORE meeting me. The thing is there will always be cheaters. You can legislate against it, but it does not matter, those inclined to cheat will always find a way to do so. They lie and you have no way of knowing it is a lie. Only later does the truth come out.

 

Another good line. 

 

"finding out the person you thought existed does not exist"

 

 

Ah! cruel if thou canst from pity keep

At the bare thought of what my heart foreknew;

And if thou weep’st not, what could make thee weep?

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Who knows? What do you mean?

As a privileged man, I can restart, how easy is it for a woman soon 40 years old to restart with a new man, or risk our marriage for a fling? 

 

I must be a retard and a very bad husband if she choose to leave me, or choosed me based on the wrong premises.

 

I want her to be happy, with me or without me, since I really do not want a miserable unhappy wife.

 

A vise man said once Happy wife, happy life 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I have always stayed away from bar girls. And nevertheless, the women I met, who were "normal"  women, may as well have been bar girls by the  diabolical nature of their behaviour, it is hard to imagine that bar girls could be worse

So what you're actually saying is that the problem is you, not the Thai women, or the Filipina's.

 

You people should get over yourselves. It's only sex/money. Your 1950s morality has no place here.

6 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Another good line. 

 

"finding out the person you thought existed does not exist"

 

 

Thats a hard lesson after two weeks knowing a person, and loosing your respect and trust for all women in the world because they might be unfaithful one day.