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Rise of the Science Sleuths: The Growing Movement Uncovering Flaws in Research Integrity

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3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

While you only refer to ‘the whole of the left’.

 

 

Wrong. I have not referred the “whole of the left”. 

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1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Wrong. I have not referred the “whole of the left”. 

Oh:

 

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Anyone that disagrees with the left hears a lot of that.

 

’the left’?

 

 

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh:

 

 

’the left’?

 

 

Exactly. Not the whole left, like yiu falsely claimed. 

Just now, mogandave said:

Exactly. Not the whole left, like yiu falsely claimed. 

 

yiu?

15 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Exactly. Not the whole left, like yiu falsely claimed. 

Oh so when you said ‘The Left’ you were not referring to ‘The Left’ you were referring to some unidentified part of ‘The Left’.

 

Gotchya.

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh so when you said ‘The Left’ you were not referring to ‘The Left’ you were referring to some unidentified part of ‘The Left’.

 

Gotchya.

As i understand it, the left means the left generally, not the whole left. 

 

The whole left would include everyone on the left. 

 

Is that more clear?

8 hours ago, mogandave said:

As i understand it, the left means the left generally, not the whole left. 

 

The whole left would include everyone on the left. 

 

Is that more clear?

Could not me clearer, thank you:

 

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/in-general#:~:text=You use in general to,More Synonyms of in general

20 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It must difficult for you being the only person knowing the truth and with no need for science, evidence or proofs.

 

I don't know were that crazy conspiracy theory came from..I've never claimed to know "the truth"  I just ask questions of those who claim they do

asking questions should be encouraged don't you agree ?....

5 minutes ago, johng said:

 

I don't know were that crazy conspiracy theory came from..I've never claimed to know "the truth"  I just ask questions of those who claim they do

asking questions should be encouraged don't you agree ?....

I suggest you look up the meaning of ‘conspiracy theory’ and then ask yourself if you used the term correctly.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you look up the meaning of ‘conspiracy theory’ and then ask yourself if you used the term correctly.

I'll use the term as I did thanks..care to address the points I raised...

asking questions should be encouraged ??  no didn't think so.

8 minutes ago, johng said:

I'll use the term as I did thanks..care to address the points I raised...

asking questions should be encouraged ??  no didn't think so.


Genuine questioning should always encouraged.

 

Loaded questions are a different t matter.

 

And waiting for answer is a good idea too.

 

no didn't think so.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And waiting for answer is a good idea too.

 

no didn't think so.

So asking questions is good as long as it is "a genuine" question

whatever the hell that means...I'll await your "genuine answer"

as to what is a "genuine question"

“no didn't think so.”  that I'll we'll get an answer to that one.

Just now, johng said:

So asking questions is good as long as it is "a genuine" question

whatever the hell that means...I'll await your "genuine answer"

as to what is a "genuine question"

“no didn't think so.”  that I'll we'll get an answer to that one.


I see you truncated my post. 
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The classic example of a loaded question  is ‘when did you stop beating your wife?

 

So let’s quit with the pretense that all questions are valid.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see you truncated my post. 

 so what ?  I truncated for brevity and whatever else up to me.

 

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The classic example of a loaded question  is ‘when did you stop beating your wife?

 

So when did you stop beating yours  ??

I'll tell you straight out that I never beat mine.

 

So stop with the pretense that asking questions is a "bad thing" it never is a bad thing especially of those who think /espouse that they have all the "authoritative" answers..they above everyone else should be be questioned relentlessly and also held accountable when/if they are proved wrong.

For those who may interested to have a look, here's the main website where so-called science sleuths usually post their critical comments.

https://pubpeer.com/

On 10/29/2024 at 11:34 AM, CallumWK said:

 

I'm not your personal assistant. The link is on AN in the world news forum

I'm not yours either. Put up or shut up or your argument is not credible.

On 10/29/2024 at 1:38 PM, john donson said:

this is something I know for a decade

 

most science is fake, bought and paid by big pharma

 

vioxx and many other cover ups... the opioid crisis that killed ....???

 

safe and effective.... woehahaha... did not protect you or loved one's but most fell for it...

 

and for mr and mrs critial... some references...

 

  • Opioid crisis
    In 2022, Cardinal Health, McKesson, AmerisourceBergen, and Johnson & Johnson settled for $26 billion to address the opioid crisis. This settlement included $23.9 billion to fund efforts to stem the crisis. In 2023, more than a dozen companies paid out about $1.5 billion in settlement funds to state and local governments. 
     
     
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    GlaxoSmithKline
    In 2012, GlaxoSmithKline paid $3 billion to settle a lawsuit for promoting drugs for unapproved uses and failing to report safety data. 
     
     
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    Pfizer
    In 2009, Pfizer paid $2.3 billion to settle a lawsuit for falsely promoting drugs like Bextra, Geodon, Lyrica, and Zyvox. 
     
     
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    Johnson & Johnson
    In 2013, Johnson & Johnson pleaded guilty to misbranding the antipsychotic drug Risperdal. 
     
     
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    Abbott
    In 2012, Abbott pleaded guilty to unlawfully promoting Depakote for uses not approved by the FDA. 
     
     
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    Eli Lilly
    Eli Lilly paid $1.42 billion to settle a lawsuit for promoting Zyprexa for uses outside the FDA's approval. 
     
     
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    Bayer and Johnson & Johnson
    In 2019, Bayer and Johnson & Johnson paid $775 million to settle a lawsuit for downplaying the risks associated with their anticoagulant drug, Xarelto. 
     
     
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    Endo, Teva, and Teikoku Seiyaku
    In 2018, Endo, Teva, and Teikoku Seiyaku paid over $270 million to settle a lawsuit alleging illegal deals to delay cheaper Lidoderm generics. 

 

 

 

 

 

These are claims by the businesses not the scientists whose work is often misrepresented or suppressed. You clearly dont understand the drug approval process when you confuse science with business 

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