Why do decent Americans support trump

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

I honestly cannot wait for this election to be over.  And after Trump loses, perhaps these "decent Americans" will start coming to their senses. 

 

 

Or........ he wins and we can sit back bathe in the warm glow of schadenfreude as he destroys American's reputation around the world.

[connda]

1 hour ago, Mazungu said:

Fascist -- a person who believes in or sympathizes with Fascism. A person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

 

Fascism -- a governmental led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

You mean the current Democrat Administration?

[Jingthing]

Today's world is divided between pro autocracy and pro democracy.

This is not a normal election. 

Bring Trump back to power and the next election will be like what just happened in the country of Georgia.

Authoritarians, fascists, whatever you want to call them, once they gain power no longer allow real electios.

Trying to normalize this election as being about mundane policy issues is completely wrong. 

This is a referendum on whether the USA joins the global nexus of autocracy, or continues to fight on for democracy.

That's why I say maga fascists are not decent Americans BY DEFINITION. 

In fairness, though many Trump voters just plain IGNORANT and don't realize what this election is really about.

 

Put Trump into power and it will be TOO LATE.

 

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

The former president (he HATES being called that BTW) convicted felon/serial sex offender/proven fraudster has no morals, no ethics, no intelligence.  Anyone who supports him is the same.

[watthong]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

I honestly cannot wait for this election to be over.  And after Trump loses, perhaps these "decent Americans" will start coming to their senses. 

 

I cancelled Netflix because I was so busy watching  reruns of Jan6 bodycams/tiktok/congresionnal hearings plus more and more videos/montage unearthed by the week, month, year, And my guilty pleasures are watching the Jan6 felons getting snapped up down the weeks, months, years, the gift that keep on giving. "Let Go of Me!!" is how "these ""decent Americans" will start coming to their senses."

 

 

Edited October 29 by watthong

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, bangadang said:

Oh great, another left rant. Why not throw Hitler into it as well?  

So easy to just call it out as a left rant, huh

 

Takes some effort to do so

Edited October 29 by Hummin

[Digitalbanana]

To answer the op its all confirmation bias, people living inside their own echo chambers unwilling to come out, loyalty and tribalism and a bizarre emotional attachment. 

 

That and they are probably a bit dim. Like who on earth thought it would be OK for a comic to demonize ethnic minorities like Puerto Rica's at the MSG rally on the weekend and brush it off as a stupid racist joke like JDV has subsequently done when many of the swing states have these ethnic minorities, some of whom will be pissed and can swing the vote on a dime.

[Gecko123]

1. Right wing propaganda news outlets which have literally brainwashed people. 

 

2. Income and inheritance tax policy which has increased wealth and income disparity and sharply reduced contact between different socio-economic groups. Upward mobility i.e., the American Dream, has been damaged as a result, and led to frustration. Donald Trump appeals to these grievances, but actually has done next to nothing to improve these problems for lower and middle class families.

 

3. Gerrymandering of election districts have made many geographic areas unattractive if you don't share the same political positions as the majority of people in the district, further dividing people and reducing opportunities for interaction. Unfortunately, in an effort to maintain unfair electoral map advantages that Republicans enjoy, Trump has shown no interest in rectifying any of this.

 

4.Climate change has triggered climate migration, made resources scarcer and more expensive, and generally made the world a more risky place. People are increasingly anxious and unwilling to share diminishing resources with those they see as the "other" and find a candidate who promises relief from this attractive. Unfortunately, Donald Trump's short-sighted solution for lowering inflation is to "drill, baby, drill" (a fossil fuel dependent energy policy,) may lower energy costs in the short run, but over the long run it is only going to aggravate climate change, and aggravate climate migration and climate change related inflation.

 

[bubblegum]

After graduating from an international Swiss boarding school where I befriended lots of Americans I went to University in the States. I was shocked, gobsmacked by the ignorance of the average American high school student. They were completely different from my friends.

The question "where you from" became from The Hague, Netherlands to across that big, big water to the east of America.

 

So to answer your question, they just don't know.

[driver52]

2 hours ago, Mazungu said:

Fascist

trotsky invented that word, a rich jew guy whose gang of Bolsheviks went on to murder over 80 million christians.......makes Hitler look tame lame eh?

nowadays it is clearly used to silence folks who have a brain and refuse to believe what the TV and the Cocaine Import Agency tells em 

Edited October 29 by driver52

[watthong]

 

 

[Mazungu]

1 hour ago, driver52 said:

trotsky invented that word, a rich jew guy whose gang of Bolsheviks went on to murder over 80 million christians.......makes Hitler look tame lame eh?

nowadays it is clearly used to silence folks who have a brain and refuse to believe what the TV and the Cocaine Import Agency tells em 

Au contraire. The term "fascism" was first used in 1915 by members of Mussolini's movement, the Fasces of Revolutionary Action.

 

The word fascism comes from the Latin fasces, which denotes a bundle of wooden rods that typically included a protruding axe blade. In ancient Rome, lictors (attendants to magistrates) would hold the fasces as a symbol of the penal power of their magistrate. The first European fascist, Benito Mussolini, adopted this symbol both to recall the greatness of the Roman Empire and to reinforce his authority as the eventual dictator of Italy. Fascist regimes like his required their citizens to be as unified as the tightly bound fasces.

[Mazungu]

To all Trumpsters crying about Trump being called a Fascist, cry me a river. Are you so uninformed that you don't know Trump has been calling the Dems derogatory names for the last 10 years? Do you not pay any attention? He even loves to call the Dems Fascists. So suck it up. Trump started the name calling and took away all civility in politics. He must reap the whirlwind. 

 

 

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

So easy to just call it out as a left rant, huh

 

Takes some effort to do so

If it walks like a duck…

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

After graduating from an international Swiss boarding school where I befriended lots of Americans I went to University in the States. I was shocked, gobsmacked by the ignorance of the average American high school student. They were completely different from my friends.

The question "where you from" became from The Hague, Netherlands to across that big, big water to the east of America.

 

So to answer your question, they just don't know.

The left runs virtually all education in the US.

 

 

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The former president (he HATES being called that BTW) convicted felon/serial sex offender/proven fraudster has no morals, no ethics, no intelligence.  Anyone who supports him is the same.

And here we have the larger issue in a nutshell. Republicans think that Democrats are wrong. Democrats think Republicans are evil.  Lots more emotion/vituperation on the left, which may explain why women are supporting Harris more than Trump.  Less thinking and more feeling.

[driver52]

32 minutes ago, Mazungu said:

Au contraire. The term "fascism" was first used in 1915 by members of Mussolini's movement, the Fasces of Revolutionary Action.

funny how the pact of US/UK/France tried to destroy Germany post WW1 and the 'crazy fascists' came out fighting eh?

'history is a set of lies agreed upon' mon ami Napoleon

france has clearly fallen these days too, along with the rest of europe. how do I know? je parle francais monsieur 

liberty, c'est n'existe pas maintenant 

[Talon]

13 minutes ago, mogandave said:

The left runs virtually all education in the US.

 

 

 

Absolutely true.

Government schools in the US are run by Leftists.

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Bottom line?  I don't get it.  The hyperbole. The angst. The almost violent anger. I simply don't understand it. And the implied violent undertones of the rhetoric on the Left.  I consider it to be off the scales.

Strange that you don't get the "bottom line", because it is simply that, good, honest and intelligent Americans do not want this poor excuse for a human being elected as their president, and the reason is that it says so much about them if he is.

 

There is nasty rhetoric on both sides, but if you want to look at the root cause, look no further than trump's lies and rants against the Democrats and Harris – – truly despicable and not worthy of a presidential candidate but more worthy of a poorly educated (yes, he was not a good/intelligent student) grifter.

 

And I'm not sitting here in a state of angst, more in a state of total disbelief that any normal, educated person would cast a vote for this compulsive liar and despicable human being.......maybe he has cornered the "poorly educated" market, but they will soon find out that he is not their saviour, mainly because he has no idea on how to run an economy and the poorly educated and lower class will be hit hardest by his ignorance, inability and desire to please his rich buddies.

[driver52]

4 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Absolutely true.

Government schools in the US are run by Leftists.

it's the monetization of everything that moves....the UK followed that US model and totally screwed up learning everything too

education has long since about being told to follow the government narrative, not to learn how to think critically....it started in the 70s....the loonies decided to destroy one's health and the traditional family model in the name of being an overweight gobsh!te lefty

RIP UK, I luved u once 

Edited October 29 by driver52

[Danderman123]

Ignorance.

 

Next question?

[driver52]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ignorance.

like your diet I imagine........the American dream is well and truly dead, thanks big corp

enjoy yer microplastics and ultra-processed food brah 

[Danderman123]

Just now, driver52 said:

like your diet I imagine........the American dream is well and truly dead, thanks big corp

enjoy yer microplastics and ultra-processed food brah 

Sorry, it looks like you are drunk posting.

 

Remember that some of us live in Thailand.

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

18 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And here we have the larger issue in a nutshell. Republicans think that Democrats are wrong. Democrats think Republicans are evil.  Lots more emotion/vituperation on the left, which may explain why women are supporting Harris more than Trump.  Less thinking and more feeling.

No, nice try. We bring facts to the table and red hat cultists reply using any or all of the following:

 

(D) eflect

(I) gnore

(L) ie

(D) eny

(O) bfuscate

 

Democrats never stormed the capitol, never attacked poll workers, never called Puerto Ricans garbage island dwellers, etc. etc. etc.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29 by HappyExpat57

[driver52]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Remember that some of us live in Thailand.

sure and you're all still mainly overweight........and still brainwashed by the fat cat owned media 

PS I don't do alcohol since I made the effort to understand what health is 

[Talon]

9 minutes ago, driver52 said:

it's the monetization of everything that moves....the UK followed that US model and totally screwed up learning everything too

education has long since about being told to follow the government narrative, not to learn how to think critically....it started in the 70s....the loonies decided to destroy one's health and the traditional family model in the name of being an overweight gobsh!te lefty

RIP UK, I luved u once 

 

Agree.

Government schools in the US have become training for prison; and home schooling is on a tremendous rise.

[transam]

17 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Absolutely true.

Government schools in the US are run by Leftists.

Oh, really......................

[driver52]

4 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

Democrats never stormed the capitol,

that geezer wearing the hat was an 'inside agent'....one of those brainwashed lefty loonies 

[Talon]

3 minutes ago, driver52 said:

that geezer wearing the hat was an 'inside agent'....one of those brainwashed lefty loonies 

 

 

Democrat brownshirts stormed the Capitol in May 2020.

 

 

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The former president (he HATES being called that BTW) convicted felon/serial sex offender/proven fraudster has no morals, no ethics, no intelligence.  Anyone who supports him is the same.

Its for haters like you that the 2nd Amendment was designed.