Why I left Thailand

[Confuscious]

5 minutes ago, Ste78 said:

hello,

 

you please explain this ?

"As an EU citizen, I am entitled to the EU health insurance which repatriate me in case of an accident.
If I have an accident or need hosptal care, but can not be transported, the EU healthcare will sponsor my hospital bill."

 

normal EU heathcare support during your stay in Thailand?!

 

so all turists from EU pay travel insurance for nothing?

EU health Support is only valable in Thailand if your stay is a vacation.

EU healthcare insurance doesn't pay if your stay is not a vacation.

Kaw Yai?

[Purdey]

You can live well in Thailand until your health suffers. It isn't the occasional doctor visits, medicines or even some surgery that costs too much, it is the constant return visits for dialysis or something really chronic. Getting health insurance is really expensive.

I can understand why Spain might be good if the same health requirements are free or cheap.

[Confuscious]

5 minutes ago, Purdey said:

You can live well in Thailand until your health suffers. It isn't the occasional doctor visits, medicines or even some surgery that costs too much, it is the constant return visits for dialysis or something really chronic. Getting health insurance is really expensive.

I can understand why Spain might be good if the same health requirements are free or cheap.

Getting health insurance is not only expensive but it is useless when you are suffering from these diseases already.

Thanks

 

[FritsSikkink]

41 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

And many lawyers, and Thai immigration police who were involved in this case didn't know Thai laws as well. Lucky that the Here Frits Seaking is a specialist on Thai laws 

What a plonker Here Frits is.

Thai immigration police has nothing to do with tax law.

Lawyers specialize in separate parts of the law, this could be criminal, estate, tax, divorce, ...... So it completely depends on what sort of lawyer you ask the question.

I do actually know something about Thai law because of my work.

You are the idiot here.

Edited 7 hours ago by FritsSikkink

[Confuscious]

22 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Thai immigration police has nothing to do with tax law.

Hilarious 

Herr Frits refutes a thread about getting an iD card for my daughter and all of the sudden the thread has changed to tax laws.

Go back to kindergarten and amuse some little kids there.

[FritsSikkink]

3 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Hilarious 

Herr Frits refutes a thread about getting an iD card for my daughter and all of the sudden the thread has changed to tax laws.

Go back to kindergarten and amuse some little kids there.

It is sad that you can't remember what you talked about in the OP:

 

"3. The oncoming changes and requirements for foreigners who were staying more than 180 days in Thailand was a "NO" for me. New taxation rules, taxation on my foreign income and a message of my bank in Belgium warning me that they had send the documents about my "Wealth" that were asked by Thailand was the "Final Straw" for me."

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

And many lawyers, and Thai immigration police who were involved in this case didn't know Thai laws as well. Lucky that the Here Frits Seaking is a specialist on Thai laws 

What a plonker Here Frits is.

He's more on the button than you appear to be. Sounds more like you've been led on by a scorned ex wife.

[Confuscious]

Just now, FritsSikkink said:

It is sad that you can't remember what you talked about in the OP:

 

"3. The oncoming changes and requirements for foreigners who were staying more than 180 days in Thailand was a "NO" for me. New taxation rules, taxation on my foreign income and a message of my bank in Belgium warning me that they had send the documents about my "Wealth" that were asked by Thailand was the "Final Straw" for me."

And where do you read in that quote anything about the immigration police.

You are a sad loser Her Frits

[FritsSikkink]

Just now, Confuscious said:

And where do you read in that quote anything about the immigration police.

You are a sad loser Her Frits

You said that I came up with tax, WRONG.

No you are blabbering about immigration police. You have lost the plot.

[Celsius]

To be fair, if your health was still good you would have stayed in Thailand despite the rest of your post citing corruption and inconveniences. 

 

I don't actually disagree with you. I am starting to get knee problems which came out of nowhere and I am only 51. I can only imagine what hell Thailand will become once I need a serious medical treatment. 

 

I have always said it.... you should come to Thailand when you are young. This place is not for old Western men,

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

And many lawyers, and Thai immigration police who were involved in this case didn't know Thai laws as well. Lucky that the Here Frits Seaking is a specialist on Thai laws 

What a plonker Here Frits is.

Forgotten that you started talking about immigration police too.

Better stop posting as you don't make any sense.

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Yes.

"If you need just litre of milk twice a month why to keep a cow?"

 

As you get elderly a lady can look after you, a cow can't 

[fotofinish]

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

On your own though? One of the reasons people like Thailand is female company

what female company?

[Confuscious]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

You said that I came up with tax, WRONG.

No you are blabbering about immigration police. You have lost the plot.

Yes, HERR FRITZ
And now get lost!!!!

[GypsyT]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

As you get elderly a lady can look after you, a cow can't 

Joking aside - I agree 100%.

No luck yet but I don't give up easily. 

I find failing is fun too. As long as she's thin & pretty.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by GypsyT

[JackGats]

On 11/6/2024 at 8:49 PM, Confuscious said:

...
3. The oncoming changes and requirements for foreigners who were staying more than 180 days in Thailand was a "NO" for me. New taxation rules, taxation on my foreign income and a message of my bank in Belgium warning me that they had send the documents about my "Wealth" that were asked by Thailand was the "Final Straw" for me.
...

Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean the Belgian bank sent the CRS report to Thailand? Normally this is done automatically if the Belgian bank has you down as residing in Thailand and if you provided the Belgian bank with your Thai TIN. It is automatic with no need for Thailand to "ask" for it.

 

[JackGats]

On 11/6/2024 at 8:49 PM, Confuscious said:

 

 

The editor tricked me again into duplicating my post. Well done editor!

Edited 4 hours ago by JackGats

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

This place is not for old Western men,

It can be but you need a decent health insurance.

[Confuscious]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

As you get elderly a lady can look after you, a cow can't 

Can a lady do a Kidney Dialyse?
No hospital visit needed?

[georgegeorgia]

56 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Can a lady do a Kidney Dialyse?
No hospital visit needed?

Oh stop complaining and buy a kidney !!

 

[still kicking]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

And the Australian taxpayer is paying for your government housing and free medical 

Aren't you lucky you made the decision all those years ago to emigrate from Germany to the lucky country of Australia 

"Don't mention the War now " 

Dont mention the War !

You just don't get it do you? I paid taxes all my life (43 years) had my own business for 25 years but a mopper from Redfern would not know , 

[JimTripper]

 

23 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Irish vlogger, has been in Thailand 12 years, married and has a son in Thailand. He's getting tired of the visa bureaucracy. And sounds like if he had known he would have gone to Spain instead. If I had an EU passport, I would also prefer southern Europe. 

 

I watch this guy too. He would likely be gone except for his duty to family here. His video's are very honest.

[Negita43]

On 11/7/2024 at 4:46 AM, Sydebolle said:

this country is in total overdrive 

Almost every country in the world (read the news) unless you want to go to Russia or China

[Negita43]

On 11/7/2024 at 5:55 AM, Guderian said:

Lucky you. A warm, sunny climate is very important to me, but returning home is definitely not an attractive option... lol

Look on the bright side - you think you can get away with this in the UK or Europe (and many other things that are acceptable here that aren't in the UK or Europe - you pays your money and takes your choice

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Negita43
typo

[Negita43]

5 hours ago, Purdey said:

You can live well in Thailand until your health suffers. It isn't the occasional doctor visits, medicines or even some surgery that costs too much, it is the constant return visits for dialysis or something really chronic. Getting health insurance is really expensive.

I can understand why Spain might be good if the same health requirements are free or cheap.

Returning to your home country because as you get older for medical reasons is an extremely complex decision.

Some of us have long term relationships and for me I would rather die with my partner in Thailand than in some lonely place in the UK or Europe - Medical care, at least in the UK, is not that simple either - I need new knees - NHS around 3 years wait (after you pass the consultants "pain" test - private around 14K per knee - Thailand about 8K - For me I'll stay and if things get really bad I'll book a flight to Switzerland.

[Confuscious]

31 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

Returning to your home country because as you get older for medical reasons is an extremely complex decision.

Some of us have long term relationships and for me I would rather die with my partner in Thailand than in some lonely place in the UK or Europe - Medical care, at least in the UK, is not that simple either - I need new knees - NHS around 3 years wait (after you pass the consultants "pain" test - private around 14K per knee - Thailand about 8K - For me I'll stay and if things get really bad I'll book a flight to Switzerland.

It's up to everybody to make their own decisions.
I have no partner/relation in Thailand and I don't have the intension to look for a Thai partner neither.

So, that point does not count for me.

I felt more lonely in Thailand than in Spain.

 

I don't know the UK and which rules ate hold by the UK.
But I know Belgium and I have returned back to Belgium several times for healthcare.
In 2018, I was diagnosed with an impending Aorta rupture and the surgery in Thailand was out of my budget.
I went to Belgium and had the surgery done about 3 weeks later.
I went to Belgium for a replacement of my PM and surgery was performed a day after my arrival.
Spain has similar laws as Belgium (EU country) and in the worst case, a flight from Spain to Belgium is only a few hours.

A knee replacement, or any other suregery in Thailand may look cheaper as your country.
But what if the surgery goes awry?
Suppose you go to a hospital for an eye surgery and you lose your vision?
In Belgium/Spain the hospital/doctors will be sued by the healthcare and you will be entitled to benefits as a visual impared patient.
In Thailand you will have nothing, or maybe a way and a basket of health drinks.

A lot of people made the decision to leave Thailand, with their partner, and none of them regret to have taken that decision.

A friend of mine, who was teaching Engarish in an International school was fed-up with his life in Thailand and returned to the USA 5 years ago with his Thai wife and his Thai children.
He has now a house in Florida, 2 SUV's and a good employement at a school.
The house and the cars are all paid off.
His wife has her own Facebook page and sell's at the market and online Thai food/sweets and is very succesful in this.

 

Again, everyone has to make his own decision ...

[Negita43]

21 hours ago, Confuscious said:

I had yesterday for dinner a Fish and Chips at a beach resto with Music

Best place in Spain for English Fish n Chips - Cuidad Quesada  (Alicante Region)

[Negita43]

57 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Again, everyone has to make his own decision

I think that was the point I was making by using the words "for me"

I actually lived and worked in Spain for 10 years and I like Spain more than the UK (I have Spanish friends there who I visited in September) but living there permanently after Brexit means long term living in Spain with my Thai partner is not viable.

I have to say your response to my post seems like you are trying to justify your decision to yourself as - you say everyone has to make their own decisons - I don't question yours merely say that such decisions are often complex for each individual.