Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh My - How will Trump's Fascist Dictatorship Affect You?

[dinsdale]

12 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Trump did not phone Putin rejected by Putin himself.

Did you not see my above post where I said the WP got it wrong?

[Plan B]

It would be naive to believe that Trump is able to deliver on the promises that made him popular. His grassroots voters and the leaders of rival countries who expect, perhaps, to benefit from his election are doomed to painful rebuttals. As in his first four years, Trump is not going to benefit the working class but his own, upper bourgeois class - already the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, is preparing to take a government post at the behest of Trump with the task of drastically cutting government spending, which will affect social infrastructure and services. In Ukraine, there will be no pacification, but a truce at the very best, that will leave unresolved all the fundamental problems with Russia and will produce the next crises.  Trump may turn out to be even more dangerous than Biden vis-a-vis China and even more committed to Benjamin Netanyahu's Israel, at the expense of the Palestinians and Iran - already the latest speculation about an Iranian assassination attempt does not bode well.

Trump's victory provided the undisputed leader sought by the world's nationalists, the rising forces of the Far Right on an international scale and especially in Europe. We will see the consequences soon.

Edited November 12 by Plan B

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Plan B said:

It would be naive to believe that Trump is able to deliver on the promises that made him popular. His grassroots voters and the leaders of rival countries who expect, perhaps, to benefit from his election are doomed to painful rebuttals. As in his first four years, Trump is not going to benefit the working class but his own, upper bourgeois class - already the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, is preparing to take a government post at the behest of Trump with the task of drastically cutting government spending, which will affect social infrastructure and services. In Ukraine, there will be no pacification, but a truce at the very best, that will leave unresolved all the fundamental problems with Russia and will impregnate the next crises.  Trump may turn out to be even more dangerous than Biden vis-a-vis China and even more committed to Benjamin Netanyahu's Israel, at the expense of the Palestinians and Iran - already the latest speculation about an Iranian assassination attempt does not bode well.

Trump's victory provided the undisputed leader sought by the world's nationalists, the rising forces of the Far Right on an international scale and especially in Europe. We will see the consequences soon.

Complete emotive dribble.

[Dakhar]

I have no crystal ball.

[Dakhar]

I have no crystal ball.

[RetiredNavy71]

On 11/11/2024 at 6:10 AM, connda said:

Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh My - How will Hitler Trump's Fascist Dictatorship Affect You?

Pour out the angst Lefties - Let's hear about exactly how your lives are now ruined for the next four years, and probably forever as this is no doubt the start of a 1000 year Fourth Reich, right?

America has and will continue to be a bastion of democracy for the past 250 years.  There's only so much that your boy Trump will be able to accomplish.  This was a contest and that being said, there are winners and losers..simple as that.  No need to bitch and moan and why cry over spilt milk.  So just know that fascism will be eradicated because of who we are as a people even if it has to be killed like a roach.  A retired Navy veteran 

[sherwood]

21 hours ago, Walker88 said:

 

Perhaps you missed it, but the US under Biden produces more energy than it uses. Also, there are more than 9000 already approved leases that no one has decided to assume and begin drilling. Gas prices nationally average less than $3.

 

As for prices, you'd better hope he has more than a 'concept of a plan'. Inflation has been a worldwide phenomenon since the end of Covid. Biden got it to drop from 9% to 2.8% in the US, and that without causing a Recession. Economic growth in the US, since 2020, has been running 3 times the average of the other G7 nations, and US inflation is lower than other G7 nations.

How in hell do you sleep at night what with carrying the weight of the world on you shoulders and all.

[WoodyKenny]

Well CONNDA. When you start of with your Left Liberal Hatered question, how do you think this question will effect people.   NONE of you <deleted>BAGS lived in the US, nor lived in the US Under Trumps Leaderships, yet you think you know everything by watching your far left hatered news media. Your pathetic <deleted>bags wish you had a President, Leader, Ambasador, etc that has the STONES to LEAD a great country like the UNITES STATES. MOst of you <deleted>BAGS here come for your Liberal ass Broke ass Countries like the UK with your FAILED Government system with your Open boarders and Millions of Immagrates have taken over your Country. England, Belgium, Germany, etc.... Your countries are ruin with people you dont want because of your FAILED LIBERAL Leadrships and ways.    Trump hasnt done a <deleted> thing wrong to you. He hasent impact a damn thing in your life yet you choose to display hate and violence.  Your telling me you dont want your counrty to retur to greatness?  To be the best in the world? To have a leader that will stand up and take no <deleted> from China or anyone that tries to take advantage of you?   This is a sign of TRUE LEADERSHIP.  So continue to watch your CNN, MSNBC, ASIA BBC, etc... And you Bloats in Auss land... Keep you <deleted> down under...  Truly amazing how much HATE you all have for one single individual that you have no <deleted> idea who he truly is yet you continue to judge with false fake news.

   Dont come crying for help when your country needs the UNITED STATES as you always do...  PISS OFF ALL YOU HATERS....      God be with The Trump Family....

[Thingamabob]

Living in Thailand/South East Asia, and being very much aware of the growing influence of China throughout the region, I just hope that Trump takes a strong line with Beijing on the future independence of Taiwan, and maintains what has been a close relationship between Thailand and the USA since the end of WW2. 

[josephbloggs]

11 minutes ago, WoodyKenny said:

Well CONNDA. When you start of with your Left Liberal Hatered question, how do you think this question will effect people.   NONE of you <deleted>BAGS lived in the US, nor lived in the US Under Trumps Leaderships, yet you think you know everything by watching your far left hatered news media. Your pathetic <deleted>bags wish you had a President, Leader, Ambasador, etc that has the STONES to LEAD a great country like the UNITES STATES. MOst of you <deleted>BAGS here come for your Liberal ass Broke ass Countries like the UK with your FAILED Government system with your Open boarders and Millions of Immagrates have taken over your Country. England, Belgium, Germany, etc.... Your countries are ruin with people you dont want because of your FAILED LIBERAL Leadrships and ways.    Trump hasnt done a <deleted> thing wrong to you. He hasent impact a damn thing in your life yet you choose to display hate and violence.  Your telling me you dont want your counrty to retur to greatness?  To be the best in the world? To have a leader that will stand up and take no <deleted> from China or anyone that tries to take advantage of you?   This is a sign of TRUE LEADERSHIP.  So continue to watch your CNN, MSNBC, ASIA BBC, etc... And you Bloats in Auss land... Keep you <deleted> down under...  Truly amazing how much HATE you all have for one single individual that you have no <deleted> idea who he truly is yet you continue to judge with false fake news.

   Dont come crying for help when your country needs the UNITED STATES as you always do...  PISS OFF ALL YOU HATERS....      God be with The Trump Family....

Why is that that angry right wingers can never spell or use grammar or punctuation properly? It's a common theme. 

Just curious.

[pattayasan]

Just now, Thingamabob said:

Living in Thailand/South East Asia, and being very much aware of the growing influence of China throughout the region, I just hope that Trump takes a strong line with Beijing on the future independence of Taiwan, and maintains what has been a close relationship between Thailand and the USA since the end of WW2. 

 

Trump has shown little or no desire to protect Taiwan. Does the US spend 10% of its GDP on defense?

 

US president-elect Donald Trump made Taiwan a focal point of his 2024 campaign, advocating increased defence spending by the island and casting a critical eye on its semiconductor dominance.

While some Taiwanese officials have dismissed these statements as campaign rhetoric, Trump’s repeated calls for Taiwan to pay “protection fees” and increase its defence spending to 10 per cent of GDP now signal real pressure.

 

In an October 25 podcast with Joe Rogan, Trump also accused Taiwan of “taking our chip business”, repeating his belief that the island must do more for American support.

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3286227/why-donald-trumps-win-could-mean-defence-budget-nightmare-taiwan

[herfiehandbag]

20 minutes ago, WoodyKenny said:

Well CONNDA. When you start of with your Left Liberal Hatered question, how do you think this question will effect people.   NONE of you <deleted>BAGS lived in the US, nor lived in the US Under Trumps Leaderships, yet you think you know everything by watching your far left hatered news media. Your pathetic <deleted>bags wish you had a President, Leader, Ambasador, etc that has the STONES to LEAD a great country like the UNITES STATES. MOst of you <deleted>BAGS here come for your Liberal ass Broke ass Countries like the UK with your FAILED Government system with your Open boarders and Millions of Immagrates have taken over your Country. England, Belgium, Germany, etc.... Your countries are ruin with people you dont want because of your FAILED LIBERAL Leadrships and ways.    Trump hasnt done a <deleted> thing wrong to you. He hasent impact a damn thing in your life yet you choose to display hate and violence.  Your telling me you dont want your counrty to retur to greatness?  To be the best in the world? To have a leader that will stand up and take no <deleted> from China or anyone that tries to take advantage of you?   This is a sign of TRUE LEADERSHIP.  So continue to watch your CNN, MSNBC, ASIA BBC, etc... And you Bloats in Auss land... Keep you <deleted> down under...  Truly amazing how much HATE you all have for one single individual that you have no <deleted> idea who he truly is yet you continue to judge with false fake news.

   Dont come crying for help when your country needs the UNITED STATES as you always do...  PISS OFF ALL YOU HATERS....      God be with The Trump Family....

Coherent, concise and so clearly expressed.

I think we can be in no doubt where this fellow stands.

[nauseus]

22 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The effect his 2nd term will have will vary according to the characteristics of individual people, both American and otherwise. In a nutshell, here's what I expect. Members of the cult are free to disagree, but in 1-2 years, I suspect even the cult will be disillusioned.

 

Ukrainians: His victory is bad for you. All US aid will be halted, NATO will begin to disintegrate, Putin will be given the green light to turn Ukraine into an abattoir, and Ukrainians will eventually be fighting as Einstein once said about WW IV..."with sticks and rocks".

 

Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians: You're next. NATO will collapse and Putin will rebuild the empire of his historical heroes, from the various Nicholases to Stalin and the dictators who followed.

 

Hispanics (and maybe Asians) in the US: I'm talking legal ones, maybe even 2nd and 3rd generations....his mass deportation scheme will be used to let the racist views of his goobers erupt in action. There will be a huge increase in what the law defines as 'hate crimes', as members of his cult will go after legal folks who look Hispanic. His deportation scheme and its focus on those of Hispanic descent will turn out to the greatest recruiting tool ever for MS-13. Recall there was a huge jump in attacks against Asians, when as 45, he began calling Covid the "Chinese Flu". History repeats, so Hispanics will be the new target. Asians might be tossed in as a bonus, since they ‘look different’.

 

Muslim Americans: Ironic that many voted for him when he will do for Netanyahu what he will do for Putin: Green Light whatever they want. Palestinians have had it tough enough under Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, and Hezbollah, but now they will suffer even greater at the hands of the IDF. Resentment will grow against anyone even remotely responsible for their suffering, so whole new generations of terrorists will be born.

 

Iranians: The US will ally with Israel to attack Iran. Mr "No War" is just another lie he foisted on his cult. Had he not abrogated the incredibly effective JCPOA, the leadership of the mullahs in Iran might already have ended. The JCPOA had taken Iran completely out of the nuke game, and the mullahs---not facing the possible wrath of Israel or other nations---would have had nothing to unite their own citizens, people increasingly ready for change and with a desire to join the community of nations for a better life and economic prosperity. The JCPOA could have been used as a stepping stone---as was its secondary intent---to get Iran to change even more of its behavior. Instead, with the abrogation of JCPOA, Iran started up its enrichment program, rebuilt smashed high-speed centrifuges, and gained the cooperation of folks willing to share the secrets of nuclear technology (e.g., Pakistan, China).

 

Americans: Americans will feel the effects of 47 in many ways....economically, in violence, and ideologically. 47 is incompetent. His business record is proof. He will bring that incompetence to the White House again, but this time he won't have people like Gary Cohn to get in his way. Tariffs are going to cause serious inflation. His other ideas---or are they still just 'concepts of a plan'?---will explode the deficit and lead to a funding crisis. Foreigners still fund a sizeable part of the US' yearly deficit, and it's likely many will turn elsewhere, leaving the US to try to fund itself. 47 might try to do the Fed's job re interest rates, but the market eventually decides what rates will be, either by jacking them up to Volcker Era levels, or by collapsing the USD. So we'll see inflation from tariffs and inflation from rates or USD moves. I'm sure 47 will try to blame Biden, or Pelosi or maybe even Hugo Chavez, but the carnage will be his fault alone.

 

Americans will also suffer from acts of terror. Lots of new terrorists are going to be created by what 47 allows his "allies" like Putin and Netanyahu to do. Not all of those terrorists are going to be Muslim. I suspect some will be Ukrainians, angry at what 47 allowed and encouraged. The US has been quite lucky since 2001 in that domestic acts of terror by Muslims have been minimal. In fact, even the FBI and Homeland Security under 45 noted more than 70% of all domestic terror incidents since 2001 were carried out by white supremacists and other far right groups.

 

Personally, I know a number of Muslim-driven terror attacks that were stopped because of good intelligence. That, too, is going to lessen, and that for two reasons. First is that the foreign intel services with whom US intel cooperates do not trust 47, so they will withhold intel, fearing exposure of their own 'sources and methods', just as 45's big mouth (in the Oval Office with FM Lavrov and Amb Kislyak) led to the outing and death of an Israeli penetration of ISIS. The stolen documents incident further discourages anyone---whether foreign liaison or potential clandestine assets---from risking exposure due to the reckless actions of 47. Finally, true patriots who work in US intel are going to leave, because they know enough about autocrats to see what 47 intends to be, and since serving under such an Administration goes against the oath we all took, they will leave. Like most organizations, US Intel operates under the Pareto Principle, where 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people. The good ones are going to leave, and the bad ones cannot do the job effectively. I know from experience it is not easy---but it is dangerous---to try to get close to terror organizations or even the inner circle of hostile nations such as Russia. The dregs left behind will be incapable of doing the job. The overall security of the US will be increasingly under threat, and the US is likely to experience another major terror attack. Terror groups are always aiming toward something bigger and 'greater', such as a dirty bomb or a bioterror weapon, and groups such as al Qaeda have spent years having their own best and brightest trained in the world's top universities.  Also, Americans abroad will become targets of terror and retribution, and that might even be in Thailand, as Thailand remains an important base of Islamic terrorists. It did not end with the capture of Hambali, nor the slight change in the customer demographic of a certain (unnamed) Bangkok hotel.

 

Freedom and liberty inside the US is also going to be impacted by 47. He has stated on many occasions his intent to go after anyone and anything that upsets his fragile ego, even if no crime was committed. His comments about such things as 'military tribunal for Liz Cheney' to taking away the broadcast licenses of networks ABC and CBS are clear indications about what he really thinks of freedom, liberty and in particular the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution. I'll remind again the words of Maya Angelou: "When a person shows you what they are, believe them".

 

Under 47 and an (R) govt, expect other freedoms to go by the wayside, such as a woman's right to control her own body. All of his cultists had better hope their wives or girlfriends or daughters do not get raped, because abortion will be outlawed---despite ballot measures in individual States last week---so the cult best get ready to offer 'love and support' to lots of zygotes that get carried to birth.

 

I believe we can also expect there to be some alteration of the 'separation of church and State', so that a fanatical form of Born Again Christianity becomes at least semi-official. Such (R) stalwarts as Lauren Boebert have said the US should be governed by the Christian Bible, not the US Constitution. Gee, why didn't Jefferson or Madison think of that?

 

Recall also that not only did 47 release a Chinese-printed autographed Christian Bible to grift off his goobers, he also had law enforcement violently break up a 1st Amendment-allowed peaceful protest in Lafayette Park just so he could do a photo op in front of a church holding a Bible upside down. Those actions show two intents: to lessen the separation of church and State plus change the 1st Amendment to put conditions on peaceful protest, such as 'don't get in the way of performance art'.

 

We also know that 47 intends to relax or eliminate posse comitatus laws and use the US Military domestically. 47 has also said he plans to allow a kind of day of reaping, where law enforcement will be given a free hand to ignore various Constitutional amendments or Miranda Rights "in order to get crime under control", despite the fact it fell considerably under Biden. That reeks of Duterte in the Philippines, and goes against everything the USA was intended to be. 47 additionally has said he plans to rid govt agencies of 'disloyal' people, meaning those loyal first and foremost to the US Constitution, rather than him. That smacks of autocracy.

 

I would put the odds of a breaking up of the 50 US States at maybe 20%. Neither the west coast nor the northeast has any good reason to remain part of the 50. Most of those States not only have strong economies, but they are also net contributors to the Federal Government. I can see an India-like post-WWII Partition (West and East Pakistan) where CA, OR, WA and HI secede, as well as NY, NJ, New England and western PA secede. Poor Illinois, stuck in the middle of mediocrity!

 

I believe some, maybe even all of these things happen under 47. Cult members are free to laugh, but let's come back and revisit this in two years to see who gets the last laugh. I planned for this possibility, and am using this transition period to try to immunize myself as much as possible from the carnage I believe will come. The stock market rally will allow me to liquidate assets (always fade the initial reaction to major news), and I've already secured a range of international properties to where I can bug out. I’ll also be legging out of the USD, as I expect it to collapse before 2028. Unlike some folks who threaten, I absolutely have no intention of being in the US during 47's term, which maybe never ends (and is just passed down to his surrogates).

 

I’ll end with a quote I like to read every once in a while, from H.L. Mencken in the 1920s:

 

“On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

 

 

 

 

 

Love your quote, Biden to a tee.

[Red Forever]

24 minutes ago, WoodyKenny said:

Well CONNDA. When you start of with your Left Liberal Hatered question, how do you think this question will effect people.   NONE of you <deleted>BAGS lived in the US, nor lived in the US Under Trumps Leaderships, yet you think you know everything by watching your far left hatered news media. Your pathetic <deleted>bags wish you had a President, Leader, Ambasador, etc that has the STONES to LEAD a great country like the UNITES STATES. MOst of you <deleted>BAGS here come for your Liberal ass Broke ass Countries like the UK with your FAILED Government system with your Open boarders and Millions of Immagrates have taken over your Country. England, Belgium, Germany, etc.... Your countries are ruin with people you dont want because of your FAILED LIBERAL Leadrships and ways.    Trump hasnt done a <deleted> thing wrong to you. He hasent impact a damn thing in your life yet you choose to display hate and violence.  Your telling me you dont want your counrty to retur to greatness?  To be the best in the world? To have a leader that will stand up and take no <deleted> from China or anyone that tries to take advantage of you?   This is a sign of TRUE LEADERSHIP.  So continue to watch your CNN, MSNBC, ASIA BBC, etc... And you Bloats in Auss land... Keep you <deleted> down under...  Truly amazing how much HATE you all have for one single individual that you have no <deleted> idea who he truly is yet you continue to judge with false fake news.

   Dont come crying for help when your country needs the UNITED STATES as you always do...  PISS OFF ALL YOU HATERS....      God be with The Trump Family....

Why are a lot of you far right religious zealots so full of hate?

[Old Croc]

22 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Why are a lot of you far right religious zealots so full of hate?

Most religions stopped the whole "Love thy Neighbor, Good Samaritan " thing decades ago. It's now all about, "be the same as me or die and go to hell". Forgiveness is about turning a blind eye to the criminal excesses of their own people.

Their version of inclusion and graciousness in victory, is over-the-top gloating and a vicious need to extract violent revenge on those from the other side by inventing high crimes and meting out harsh punishment, including execution, for the free speech and the opposition to their criminal leader, whom they have elevated to God like status.

They desire a military dictatorship in the "land of the free" to control those who don't fit into their version of self.

Religions thrive within low educated, low IQ communities when increasing hordes of people are unable to think logically for themselves, and are in need of a strong personality to tell them what they should believe in.  Ludacris conspiracy theories take root in feeble minds. Any thinking adult can't believe exactly how ridiculous these beliefs are. Some cultists in America actually think teachers are performing penectomy on children in school between classes.

As an outside observer, I have trouble believing much of what is happening in the USA in the name of religion. As a child in the 50s and 60s America was considered a nirvana. Great things emanated from there like cocoa cola, hamburgers, rock music, radio, space travel, next level electrical appliances, and much more. 

Now with the emergence of religious zealotism and its leading role in the judicial and political systems of the country, I just see the US as another version of Pakistan.

[XB12X]

Poor identitarian lefties. Haha!

[newbee2022]

It's a 4 year's tragedy ahead. 

An old man, almost dement, leading the main western country.

I hope he will have good advisers.

Maybe on first sight some things will be better in daily life.

However, is this man be able to look at a world map.?

To see the "iron triangle", formed by China, Russia and Iran? Will he see the expansion of BRICS? Russia, China, Iran, South Africa, Brazil? Will he acknowledge the West lost this race? Game over? Will he realize to respect this mighty block and try to make arrangements? 

And will he acknowledge climate' change and distribute his part for reduction of CO2? 

Dark 4 years I'm afraid.

 

[Hotpepper53]

Enough… Enough… Enough… on the leftist bullsh*t… You are obviously out numbered… or is it that you can’t give up because you’re afraid to realize everything you been told is a lie…

 

[itsari]

On 11/11/2024 at 8:01 PM, dinsdale said:

It's going to be terrible. Wars might finish, prices might go down, food might get healthier, science might go back to doing what science does, censorship of free speech might be eliminated, men might no longer be allowed to play in women's sports, EV mandates might disappear even before they started,  ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's going to be horrible. The orange man dictator is going to make things so much worse. I'm glad I don't live in the US. Imagine no illegal immigrants flooding across the border, no vicious gangs, murderers and rapists coming in, no sanctuary cities, a reduction in crime. OMG. A pure apocalypse of tyranny in anyone's terms. 

You forgot to mention that dogs and cats will be saved from the pot.

[itsari]

On a selfish point of view I expect a great deal of humour from Trump in the next four years.

Affected by a fascist dictatorship? A lot of nonesense 

Pull Russia  into line is something I hope for and giving them a face saving withdrawal from Ukraine agreement.

Make the Nato countries pay more for there defence 

 

[edwardflory]

"""Perhaps you missed it, but the US under Biden produces ....."'""

 

If your statement IS true, why are the stragic oil reserves NOT overflowing? They are extremely low at this time.

[Eric Loh]

Half the country don't want him and he can't beat his frailty of old age next 4 years. 

[edwardflory]

"""Biden got it to drop from 9% to 2.8% in the US, and that without causing a Recession"""

 

When Biden took office it was under 2%, it mushroomed to over 9% ( thankfully during social security payment adjustment time ) and then headed downward.

 

If the economy IS so good, WHY have so many MAJOR stores / businesses filed for bankruptcy.

 

Inflation total over the past almost 4 years is 20+%

[sherwood]

Nevermind, Australia will help save the Planet.

The PM came out with his new plan yesterday by saying that the Defense Force will become Zero carbon emissions if he re-elected next year.

Oh and base load electricity will be fully supplied by renewables.

You reckon the US is in trouble.

Struth

[pattayasan]

3 minutes ago, edwardflory said:

"""Biden got it to drop from 9% to 2.8% in the US, and that without causing a Recession"""

 

When Biden took office it was under 2%, it mushroomed to over 9% ( thankfully during social security payment adjustment time ) and then headed downward.

 

If the economy IS so good, WHY have so many MAJOR stores / businesses filed for bankruptcy.

 

Inflation total over the past almost 4 years is 20+%

 

Biden did falsely complain about the inflation being 9% when he took office. In fact it was much lower. The problem, largely, but not entirely outside of both their hands was that an initial slowdown in inflation was caused by a consumption drop due to fear and people staying home. Inflation then surged when the stimmy checks hit a market with already low interest rates. Changes in interest rates take time to manifest after the event that caused the change.

[Patong2021]

34 minutes ago, sherwood said:

Nevermind, Australia will help save the Planet.

The PM came out with his new plan yesterday by saying that the Defense Force will become Zero carbon emissions if he re-elected next year.

Oh and 

You reckon the US is in trouble.

Struth

 

Nothing wrong in what the PM said.

Defence is committed to Australia’s emissions targets of a 43 per cent reduction in emissions by 2030 and net zero by 2050, reinforcing the country’s commitment to the Paris Agreement and global climate leadership.

 

It is a TARGET, not a demand. The underlying  reasoning is rational and responsible.

Climate change is a national security issue that will increase challenges for Australia, Defence and our region. The challenges arising from climate change are recognised in the National Defence Strategy and Defence is taking action. Action on climate change is part of the Defence mission to defend Australia and its national interests. Effective action will advance Australia’s security and prosperity. The Australian Defence Force will work to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions and to mitigate the impacts of climate change. Defence will take a sensible and practical approach to adopting renewable energy for use in its deployable capabilities.

 

Nothing wrong in being  energy independent.

The average share of renewables in Australia’s main grid is around 40 per cent.

In Western Australia, which is an isolated grid not connected to another state, the peak share of wind and solar was 84 per cent. And in South Australia, when the state was electrically isolated from the rest of the grid, the peak share of wind and solar was 91.5 per cent, which shows that energy independence is viable.

It is unlikely Australia will ever be independent of gas fired or coal fired electricity generation, but it can certainly reduce the  dependence upon these polluters especially  the dirty coal.

 

[Patong2021]

48 minutes ago, edwardflory said:

"""Biden got it to drop from 9% to 2.8% in the US, and that without causing a Recession"""

 

When Biden took office it was under 2%, it mushroomed to over 9% ( thankfully during social security payment adjustment time ) and then headed downward.

 

If the economy IS so good, WHY have so many MAJOR stores / businesses filed for bankruptcy.

 

Inflation total over the past almost 4 years is 20+%

 

The retail sector  has been undergoing change long before Biden or Trump or Obama were in office. Covid simply hastened the change. It is called online shopping and Big Box stores.  Many retailers have switched to online retailing. 

Amazon worldwide annual revenue for 2023 was US $574.785B, a 11.83% increase from 2022. It has a 38% share of the US retail market. It's next largest competitor in the USA is Walmart at 6%. 

AliBaba, Lazada and Shopee have  decimated the retail sector in Asia. All of these retailers grew by  taking over retail space previously occupied by bricks and mortar shops. AS the retailers leave the malls, the malls empty out and fail. They are then redeveloped into housing or other types of commercial space like sports facilities. 

[blazes]

2 hours ago, Old Croc said:

As a child in the 50s and 60s America was considered a nirvana. Great things emanated from there like cocoa cola, hamburgers, rock music, radio, space travel, next level electrical appliances, and much more. 

 

and Thalidomide?

 

[blazes]

2 hours ago, Old Croc said:

Ludacris conspiracy theories take root in feeble minds.

 

Ludacris???  there are conspiracy theories about "ludacris"?  is this some new vaccine against Luddite Christianity

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, edwardflory said:

"""Perhaps you missed it, but the US under Biden produces ....."'""

 

If your statement IS true, why are the stragic oil reserves NOT overflowing? They are extremely low at this time.

 

What is extremely low? The current inventory is 388.8 MMbl and the trend since April 2023 has been a steady increase in the inventory. The historic high inventories occurred in a time when the USA did not have alternative energy sources such as wind or solar and was more dependent upon imports and inefficient power generation plants. The USA today has a more diverse energy supply.  70% of the US oil production now comes from  its Shale fields. 15 years ago Shale oil was  still a dream. The need for a large Strategic Oil Reserve is not as pressing as it was 20 years ago.

 

As per the International Energy Agency requirement  there is a  90 days of import protection (both public and private stocks) and the USA  exceeds this amount. The USA currently has a reserve that exceeds a 2 year demand.