Popular Post snoop1130 Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 The Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (EGAT) is pushing forward with the development of 14 new floating solar farm projects as part of its strategic efforts to increase renewable energy production. These projects, with a combined capacity of 2,656 megawatts, are set to be constructed on the reservoirs of seven hydroelectric dams under the latest national power development plan (PDP) for 2024. EGAT operates nine dams and has outlined plans for 16 floating solar farm projects, totalling a capacity of 2,725 megawatts, according to the PDP. To date, two of these projects have been completed at two separate dam locations. The PDP serves as the long-term blueprint established by energy officials to guide the development of the country’s power supply. Covering the period from 2024 to 2037, the plan aims to significantly increase the share of energy derived from renewable resources to 51% by the end of the cycle, rising from 20% at the close of 2023. Concurrently, it seeks to decrease reliance on fossil-fuel-based power plants, reducing their contribution to 45% by 2037, down from 70% last year. Thidade Eiamsai, deputy governor of power plant development and renewable energy at EGAT, stated that the organisation is committed to expediting the development of the 14 floating solar farms. These are to be located at Bhumibol, Sirikit, Srinakarin, Vajiralongkorn, Chulabhorn, Bang Lang, and Rajjaprabha dams. EGAT’s inaugural floating solar farm became operational in December 2021 at the Sirindhorn Dam in Ubon Ratchathani, with a capacity of 45 megawatts. A second facility, generating 24 megawatts, was launched at the Ubolratana Dam in Khon Kaen, beginning operations in March 2024. Looking ahead, EGAT plans to commence construction of three additional floating solar farms early next year, with a combined output capacity of 348 megawatts. The most substantial of these projects, boasting a capacity of 158 megawatts, will be developed at Bhumibol Dam. Solar farms Another, with a capacity of 140 megawatts, is slated for Srinakarin Dam, while the third, with a 50 megawatts capacity, will be situated at Vajiralongkorn Dam. The total development cost for these projects is estimated at 13 billion baht (US$374 million), with operations expected to start between 2026 and 2027. Egat is in the process of preparing a proposal for the Energy Ministry’s approval, which will include plans to connect the generated electricity to the national grid. The 2024 PDP maintains the same capacity targets for floating solar farms as were set in the 2018 PDP, comprising a total of 2,725 megawatts from 16 projects across nine dams, reported Bangkok Post. Before the revision of the 2018 PDP, EGAT had envisioned a long-term expansion of its floating solar farm capacity to approximately 5,000 megawatts over the subsequent two decades. However, this ambitious plan did not receive the necessary approval to proceed. By Bright Choomanee Picture courtesy of Bangkok Post Source: The Thaiger -- 2024-11-13 1 6 2 2 1
Popular Post hotchilli Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 Better than those useless wind farms they tried 3 3
jcmj Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Great idea, but very expensive and probably no warranty or maintenance involved. They always come up with great ideas but they just don’t seem to think about the maintenance costs afterwards. 2 2
Popular Post pattayasan Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 Just now, jcmj said: Great idea, but very expensive and probably no warranty or maintenance involved. They always come up with great ideas but they just don’t seem to think about the maintenance costs afterwards. Cheapest energy production method in the world. No real estate cost in a small country with a large population. China, Japan, and South Korea are developing large-scale floating solar farms. 2 1 2 3
Popular Post ravip Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 10 minutes ago, jcmj said: Great idea, but very expensive and probably no warranty or maintenance involved. They always come up with great ideas but they just don’t seem to think about the maintenance costs afterwards. Did you manage to find out all the details about this project? 1 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14 Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, pattayasan said: Cheapest energy production method in the world. No real estate cost in a small country with a large population. China, Japan, and South Korea are developing large-scale floating solar farms. No part of Thailand I spent time in had a reliable wind strong enough to generate a good f**t. I suspect the real reason for wind farms in LOS is to generate lotsacash for the usual suspects. 3 2 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14 Posted November 14 12 minutes ago, jcmj said: Great idea, but very expensive and probably no warranty or maintenance involved. They always come up with great ideas but they just don’t seem to think about the maintenance costs afterwards. I don't think there is a Thai word for "maintenance". 3 1
ElwoodP Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Book advert removed, please contact Forum Support or Admin and get permission before advertising any product on AN. Unauthorized attempts will ultimately result in account closure. @WDSmart
john donson Posted November 14 Posted November 14 maybe the heat will release lots of micro plastics in the water... we all know how healthy that is, right 1 2
Popular Post Xonax Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 A positive side effect to these floating solar farms is, that the massive solar panels will reduce evaporation of water in the dams. 4 1 5
WDSmart Posted November 14 Posted November 14 There is no such thing as "renewable" or "green" energy. Those are just marketing terms. All technology, especially "energy-creating" technology, pollutes and costs more energy than it ever makes available for human use. No technology "creates" energy; it just harvests existing energy from one source, usually converts it, and then makes it available for human use in another source. Good examples of these are both solar and wind-powered energy technologies. 4 6 1 1
Popular Post pattayasan Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 32 minutes ago, WDSmart said: There is no such thing as "renewable" or "green" energy. Those are just marketing terms. All technology, especially "energy-creating" technology, pollutes and costs more energy than it ever makes available for human use. No technology "creates" energy; it just harvests existing energy from one source, usually converts it, and then makes it available for human use in another source. Good examples of these are both solar and wind-powered energy technologies. Solar, wind, uranium and coal don't create energy, they release it. While it takes energy to produce solar cells and windmills, the ROI must be in favor of the ergs out / ergs in ratio. That's the case for every method of energy "production" ever devised by man. 2 1 1 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 38 minutes ago, WDSmart said: There is no such thing as "renewable" or "green" energy. Those are just marketing terms. All technology, especially "energy-creating" technology, pollutes and costs more energy than it ever makes available for human use. No technology "creates" energy; it just harvests existing energy from one source, usually converts it, and then makes it available for human use in another source. Good examples of these are both solar and wind-powered energy technologies. Renewable energy and green energy are technical terms; not marketing term. It refers to energy from natural source in a way that doesn't harm the environment. 1 1 3
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I don't think there is a Thai word for "maintenance". I didn’t think you can speak Thai. You are just making things up Tugger. 2 1 1
WDSmart Posted November 14 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, pattayasan said: Solar, wind, uranium and coal don't create energy, they release it. While it takes energy to produce solar cells and windmills, the ROI must be in favor of the ergs out / ergs in ratio. That's the case for every method of energy "production" ever devised by man. You're correct, except the ergs out /ergs in always show a net "loss" of ergs. These ergs are called "lost' because they are unusable by humans and are called "pollution." Most of them are egrs in the form of heat. 1 1 1
WDSmart Posted November 14 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Renewable energy and green energy are technical terms; not marketing term. It refers to energy from natural source in a way that doesn't harm the environment. There are no forms of energy that we harvest from any source that does not harm the environment. All technology harms the environment. 3
Popular Post ravip Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 2 hours ago, Xonax said: A positive side effect to these floating solar farms is, that the massive solar panels will reduce evaporation of water in the dams. 2 hours ago, john donson said: maybe the heat will release lots of micro plastics in the water... we all know how healthy that is, right 32 minutes ago, WDSmart said: There are no forms of energy that we harvest from any source that does not harm the environment. All technology harms the environment. Maybe more information is available from these projects - 3 Largest Floating Solar Farms in the United States in 2022 | YSG Solar - they should have enough experience? 3
Eric Loh Posted November 14 Posted November 14 54 minutes ago, WDSmart said: There are no forms of energy that we harvest from any source that does not harm the environment. All technology harms the environment. Let's limit ourselves to the drive towards renewable energies to reduce greenhouse gases from fossil fuels. 1 1
Emdog Posted November 14 Posted November 14 The clever ones will find a way to burn off the stubble from those solar farms. Burning off is a tradition, and they won't let a bit of water stand in the way of choking the population 1 2 1
redwood1 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 6 hours ago, john donson said: maybe the heat will release lots of micro plastics in the water... we all know how healthy that is, right Funny how no one ever talks about this.......As the plastic ages a 100% certainty that mico plastic will end up in the drinking water... Not to mention electricity and water are a very poor mix.. 3
John Drake Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Don't those solar panels contain metal contaminants? What happens if there are accidents and these panels get flushed to the bottom of the dams?
Popular Post 0ffshore360 Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 3 hours ago, redwood1 said: Funny how no one ever talks about this.......As the plastic ages a 100% certainty that mico plastic will end up in the drinking water... Not to mention electricity and water are a very poor mix.. Yes of course hydro /electric generation has been a historical disaster ! Not ! Micro plastics are already an element of pollution due to the proliferation of environmental disrespect of the human populace in dumping simple waste packaging but resin encased items capable of assisting energy supply is suddenly more toxic than the unnecessary garbage generated by food packaging alone? A floating solar power farm is worthy of critical comment while the two skanky tomatoes exessively cling wrapped onto a styrene tray at your favored slopermarket makes you feel food safe? 1 1 3
kickstart Posted November 14 Posted November 14 5 hours ago, redwood1 said: Funny how no one ever talks about this.......As the plastic ages a 100% certainty that mico plastic will end up in the drinking water... Not to mention electricity and water are a very poor mix.. Water from Thai dams is not used for drinking water, most of Thai drinking water comes from underground aqua's. Or some might end up on farmers' fields, as water is pumped out for irrigation. As for water and electicity mixing, look up the world's largest floating solar farm. 1
pattayasan Posted November 14 Posted November 14 37 minutes ago, kickstart said: Water from Thai dams is not used for drinking water, most of Thai drinking water comes from underground aqua's. Or some might end up on farmers' fields, as water is pumped out for irrigation. As for water and electicity mixing, look up the world's largest floating solar farm. Where did you get this ridiculous idea from?
NoDisplayName Posted November 14 Posted November 14 On 11/13/2024 at 4:28 PM, snoop1130 said: the development of the 14 floating solar farms Poor quality materials will corrode after a year or so, but then TAT can repurpose them like the famous wind farm island. These will make excellent night market tourist attractions! But something tells me the local sellers won't wait for the official decommissioning. 1
dinsdale Posted November 14 Posted November 14 (edited) I look at these sort of things and wonder about the carbon footprint it made to make this. Bit of cost benefit analyses. Bit like EV's. I wonder how many of the faithful think about the coal they're burning whilst sipping on their latte which has been made by burning coal whilst being good environmentally aware people whilst charging their car at a station from electricity produced by coal. It would be a good study to break down EV ownership across the voting public in the US election. What do you reckon Dems or Republicans for the highest % for EV ownership? Edited November 14 by dinsdale 4
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 8 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said: Poor quality materials will corrode after a year or so, but then TAT can repurpose them like the famous wind farm island. These will make excellent night market tourist attractions! But something tells me the local sellers won't wait for the official decommissioning. Yawn. You do realise Thailand already has the world's largest floating solar farm (45 MW) and it has been running smoothly since 2020-1. It hasn't corroded (glass doesn't corrode, neither does the HDPE that the moorings are made from) . It is made from very high quality materials and is well maintained. Locals haven't stolen it. This story is a continuation of the long term plan to expand it to another 15 or so reservoirs. Seriously take your jaded nonsense and just go away. I can't stand these constant negative, anti Thai posts on almost every topic, it is boring. Watch this and maybe learn something. 1 3 2
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted November 14 Popular Post Posted November 14 6 minutes ago, dinsdale said: I look at these sort of things and wonder about the carbon footprint it made to make this. Bit of cost benefit analyses. Bit like EV's. I wonder how many of the faithful think about the coal they're burning whilst sipping on their latte which has been made by burning coal whilst being good environmentally aware people charging their car at a station. Yes, things cost energy to make. Better do nothing then, just carry on burning coals and fossil fuels until they run out. Plenty of studies on the carbon footprint of EVs over their lifecycle, all of them supporting the fact that even if they got ALL their electricity from coal fired power stations they would still pollute less than an ICE vehicle. But you can look at it and wonder, knock yourself out. 2 1 1
NoDisplayName Posted November 14 Posted November 14 17 minutes ago, josephbloggs said: Yawn. You do realise Thailand already has the world's largest floating solar farm (45 MW) and it has been running smoothly since 2020-1. It hasn't corroded (glass doesn't corrode, neither does the HDPE that the moorings are made from) . It is made from very high quality materials and is well maintained. Locals haven't stolen it. This story is a continuation of the long term plan to expand it to another 15 or so reservoirs. Seriously take your jaded nonsense and just go away. I can't stand these constant negative, anti Thai posts on almost every topic, it is boring. Watch this and maybe learn something. Sorry to piss in your fish sauce, pal. There's an ignore button. I invite you to use it. 1 1
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