Trump's Cabinet of horrors exposes his totalitarian drift

[newnative]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So why not let each congressional district have its own vote?

 

    I prefer popular vote, like all are elected other than the president.  Easy to see which candidate the majority of the voters wanted as president.  In 2016 it was Clinton.  In 2020 it was Biden.  In 2024 it was Trump.   Simple.  

[DD86]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:01 PM, simple1 said:

Totalitarianism seeks dominion over the individual to the point where individuality is erased. That’s what happened to the Republican Party. Individuals have looked the same, talked the same, acted the same and thought the same for a long time. (The men sometimes literally dress the same as Donald Trump, with a blue suit, a long red tie.) After the election, however, Republican behavior has finally been totalized.

 

Totalitarianism also seeks to dominate the individual’s mind by going to war against facts, reason, science and any useful meaning of the word “proof.” In normal times, pre-Trump, we could expect in the Senate a spirited debate over a president-elect’s cabinet nominations, beginning with whether they’re qualified. Such debate is going to be impossible now, because “being qualified” is a meaningless term.

 

Trump's Cabinet of horrors exposes his totalitarian drift | Opinion

It needs a tough cabinet to get the USA back on track. The left might call that totalitarian or even Nazi. No more back stabbers and country depleters. And then again, left is always whining, being in the USA or eg Europe. 

[ifmu]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:08 PM, mokwit said:

This is the opinion of a deluded mind. It is the totalitarianism of the Left with it's identity politics that lost it the election.

this exactly the reason for his comment        useful meaning of the word “proof.”

[0ffshore360]

22 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Actually, I was trying to factually defend my approval, that is why I asked a high IQ leftist: 

1. Which of the cabinet picks do you think is unqualified, and why? 

And: 

2. Which of the Cabinet picks do you approve of? 

 

The high IQ leftist was not able to answer, all he did was sit back smug, so I was not able to defend my approval. You seem like a high IQ leftist, why don't you tell me which of the cabinet picks you think is unqualified, and why you think they are unqualified? Also, which of the Cabinet picks do you approve of? 

 

I am excited about being able to factually defend my approval, and I look forward to your detailed response. 

 

To me it would seem your rising excitement or anticipation of it is obscuring your capacity to comprehend some realities.

I am also a little confused as to the Trump Maga fraternities obsession with the concept of IQ and a sort of paranoid of that concept objection as if it is a weapon that MAGists crave but have none of.

Further to that concept it is my personal consideration that it has little in real terms to do with educational subjugated conformity and more to do with rational capacity to comprehend the realities of self situation.

Across the social/ global spectrum there are those who are or were famous in recognition of their contributions by way of technical or philosophical offerings. Some like Tesla were denied until after death. Some have been lauded and accredited falsely as a genius such as Edison.

Perhaps there is a genre of genius in business acumen which the grandest and perpetuating example of monetary control belongs to the Rothschild's family because it has directed global politics for centuries.

Sadly  for Trump and his sycophants he rates as a non starter in terms of genuine intelligence or wealth.

He does however legitimately  appear to deserve recognition as anyone no person would  welcome into an honest  family  circle IMO.

So in getting back into your request as to questioning Trumps nominated appointed and hopeful annointed I can only comment on two in particular.

Gaetz is and continues to be under scrutiny for sexual misconduct which as a nominee for legal oversight is an obvious disqualification. Never mind some outraged bs about innocent until proven !

JFK Jnr is a renowned anti science  advocate well ahead of a person with any demonstrated attitude of rational caution.

Other appointees will undoubtedly fit the same criteria of retributive destruction Trump desires .

His Chief of Staff seems to have already been relegated to Tea& Coffee Lady.

You asked for detail. Such as it is this is much as I give you because I have a real life to participate in.

Defend all you want if you need do.

Global reactivity even before Trump flexes his wrist signing Executive economic death sentences on the US has already begun.

Creating  conditions for war are more  justifiable in the  aftermath than declaring a war in the minds of the "Genius".

 

 

[mogandave]

26 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

To me it would seem your rising excitement or anticipation of it is obscuring your capacity to comprehend some realities.

I am also a little confused as to the Trump Maga fraternities obsession with the concept of IQ and a sort of paranoid of that concept objection as if it is a weapon that MAGists crave but have none of.

Further to that concept it is my personal consideration that it has little in real terms to do with educational subjugated conformity and more to do with rational capacity to comprehend the realities of self situation.

Across the social/ global spectrum there are those who are or were famous in recognition of their contributions by way of technical or philosophical offerings. Some like Tesla were denied until after death. Some have been lauded and accredited falsely as a genius such as Edison.

Perhaps there is a genre of genius in business acumen which the grandest and perpetuating example of monetary control belongs to the Rothschild's family because it has directed global politics for centuries.

Sadly  for Trump and his sycophants he rates as a non starter in terms of genuine intelligence or wealth.

He does however legitimately  appear to deserve recognition as anyone no person would  welcome into an honest  family  circle IMO.

So in getting back into your request as to questioning Trumps nominated appointed and hopeful annointed I can only comment on two in particular.

Gaetz is and continues to be under scrutiny for sexual misconduct which as a nominee for legal oversight is an obvious disqualification. Never mind some outraged bs about innocent until proven !

JFK Jnr is a renowned anti science  advocate well ahead of a person with any demonstrated attitude of rational caution.

Other appointees will undoubtedly fit the same criteria of retributive destruction Trump desires .

His Chief of Staff seems to have already been relegated to Tea& Coffee Lady.

You asked for detail. Such as it is this is much as I give you because I have a real life to participate in.

Defend all you want if you need do.

Global reactivity even before Trump flexes his wrist signing Executive economic death sentences on the US has already begun.

Creating  conditions for war are more  justifiable in the  aftermath than declaring a war in the minds of the "Genius".

 

 

So you have issue with only two. One because of unsubstantiated sexual activity and one that you claim is anti science. 

 

I do not think unsubstantiated claims should be disqualifying, you do. We disagree.

 

What makes the other anti science? 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

5 hours ago, newnative said:

    I prefer popular vote, like all are elected other than the president.  Easy to see which candidate the majority of the voters wanted as president.  In 2016 it was Clinton.  In 2020 it was Biden.  In 2024 it was Trump.   Simple.  

So why don't you move some place that votes like that? 

 

[newnative]

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So why don't you move some place that votes like that? 

 

     Because I am a rational, sane person with a thinking brain.   As such, I have many considerations when I am choosing where to move to as a place to live.  It's a sizeable list of boxes to check off of things I would like to have in the place I select.  While it would be nice if the place I select to move to had majority vote for presidential elections, it would not be on my list of boxes to check off.   Fun fact.  While no place ever checks all the boxes, Pattaya comes closest for me in Thailand.  

[0ffshore360]

13 hours ago, mogandave said:

So you have issue with only two. One because of unsubstantiated sexual activity and one that you claim is anti science. 

 

I do not think unsubstantiated claims should be disqualifying, you do. We disagree.

 

What makes the other anti science? 

 

 

For the "one" accused of sexual improper behavior it is unfortunate that Speaker Johnson finds it necessary to false claims the details of ethics committee investigations are duly invalidated by resignation when no such issue has historically been disputed. But that involved Democrat resignations so different criteria applies?

"The Other" has demonstrated hypocrisy already by willingly subjecting to a photo op showing himself partaking in a poison food fest on Trump's aircraft. That after being ever so disparaging about what Trump eats and what is made available when traveling with .

Hardly a good look to bend the knee before getting the feet under the "Health " desk.

Another contender for doubt is Hegseth with reference to sexual impropriety.

Trump seems to have a predilection for individuals who emulate his own behaviors.

No background checks?

It also will be  interesting to witness if the military will willingly enforce deportations after Trump has confirmed that intent.

 

[simple1]

15 hours ago, DD86 said:

It needs a tough cabinet to get the USA back on track. The left might call that totalitarian or even Nazi. No more back stabbers and country depleters. And then again, left is always whining, being in the USA or eg Europe. 

 

Seems to me the group winning first prize for whining is trump & co.

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

For the "one" accused of sexual improper behavior it is unfortunate that Speaker Johnson finds it necessary to false claims the details of ethics committee investigations are duly invalidated by resignation when no such issue has historically been disputed. But that involved Democrat resignations so different criteria applies?

I have no idea what you are saying. 

 

Events happened six years ago, there was a DOJ investigation, no charges were brought.

 

 

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

"The Other" has demonstrated hypocrisy already by willingly subjecting to a photo op showing himself partaking in a poison food fest on Trump's aircraft. That after being ever so disparaging about what Trump eats and what is made available when traveling with .

Hardly a good look to bend the knee before getting the feet under the "Health " desk.

You claimed he was anti science, and to support your claim, you show a picture of him holding a McDonald’s burger. That seems a bit thin.

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Another contender for doubt is Hegseth with reference to sexual impropriety.

Trump seems to have a predilection for individuals who emulate his own behaviors.

No background checks?

It also will be  interesting to witness if the military will willingly enforce deportations after Trump has confirmed that intent.

 

No charges much less convictions of Hegseth. 

 

So that’s it? 

[0ffshore360]

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

I have no idea what you are saying. 

 

Events happened six years ago, there was a DOJ investigation, no charges were brought.

 

 

You claimed he was anti science, and to support your claim, you show a picture of him holding a McDonald’s burger. That seems a bit thin.

No charges much less convictions of Hegseth. 

 

So that’s it? 

For me it is enough to generate doubt over "appropriate" appointments versus retaliatory rewards for "loyalty" to MAGA.

I am not unsympathetic to some of the "concepts of plans" touted but I genuinely believe Trump has only a personal vengeance agenda he desires to achieve and the remainder of his POTUS status mk2 will be enabling sycophantic like minded social recidivists and/or psychopathic individuals to displace any semblance of cohesive Government.

Why is it that the initial euphoria over Born Again Trump has degenerated into a global stampede in terms of trade and politics and derision from fair weather allies and more?

A sudden and radical demarcation from historically established geopolitical guidelines is a recipe for global descent into wildfire expansions of military conflict.

I sincerely doubt Trump actually cares because such an outcome would satisfy his ego if he could comprehend the initiation but ignore the destruction.

I do not  doubt he would attribute any negative accusation in such an event on one of his chosen sycophantic  despicables.

I have no doubt Trump will be the catalyst for change to at least some degree.

If not inhibited by the GOP majority it will be a disaster  for the USA.

If moderated by the bi partisan application of the Constitution it will be limited to MAGA cultism.

It is sobering to consider the fact that the advocates or late comer adulators of Trump will probably be the last to comprehend and  defend against the negative impact of his desired temporary induced seduction to delusional cult based self perceptions.

 

 

[TedG]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:01 AM, simple1 said:

Totalitarianism seeks dominion over the individual to the point where individuality is erased. That’s what happened to the Republican Party. Individuals have looked the same, talked the same, acted the same and thought the same for a long time. (The men sometimes literally dress the same as Donald Trump, with a blue suit, a long red tie.) After the election, however, Republican behavior has finally been totalized.

 

Totalitarianism also seeks to dominate the individual’s mind by going to war against facts, reason, science and any useful meaning of the word “proof.” In normal times, pre-Trump, we could expect in the Senate a spirited debate over a president-elect’s cabinet nominations, beginning with whether they’re qualified. Such debate is going to be impossible now, because “being qualified” is a meaningless term.

 

Trump's Cabinet of horrors exposes his totalitarian drift | Opinion

 

Your post made me LOL.   Can you people stop acting like drama queens and try to engage in rational discussion.  

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

For me it is enough to generate doubt over "appropriate" appointments versus retaliatory rewards for "loyalty" to MAGA.

I am not unsympathetic to some of the "concepts of plans" touted but I genuinely believe Trump has only a personal vengeance agenda he desires to achieve and the remainder of his POTUS status mk2 will be enabling sycophantic like minded social recidivists and/or psychopathic individuals to displace any semblance of cohesive Government.

Why is it that the initial euphoria over Born Again Trump has degenerated into a global stampede in terms of trade and politics and derision from fair weather allies and more?

A sudden and radical demarcation from historically established geopolitical guidelines is a recipe for global descent into wildfire expansions of military conflict.

I sincerely doubt Trump actually cares because such an outcome would satisfy his ego if he could comprehend the initiation but ignore the destruction.

I do not  doubt he would attribute any negative accusation in such an event on one of his chosen sycophantic  despicables.

I have no doubt Trump will be the catalyst for change to at least some degree.

If not inhibited by the GOP majority it will be a disaster  for the USA.

If moderated by the bi partisan application of the Constitution it will be limited to MAGA cultism.

It is sobering to consider the fact that the advocates or late comer adulators of Trump will probably be the last to comprehend and  defend against the negative impact of his desired temporary induced seduction to delusional cult based self perceptions.

 

 

Yeah, I don’t see it that way. 

[tai4de2]

Watching the left melt down over this is great fun.

 

And this from the people who literally invited thieving ladyboys into the government! O, the delicious irony!

[tai4de2]

On 11/16/2024 at 11:16 PM, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Another left winger traumatised by a democratic vote 

 

We know by now that the left only has two definitions of "democratic":

 

(1) When leftist candidates win

(2) Communist, as in "Democratic People's Republic of..."

 

Come to think of it, those two things are pretty strongly related! But neither is actually correct.

Edited November 19 by tai4de2

[Yagoda]

Anybody that thinks the MAGA movement and Trump are "authoritarian" are politically ignorant.

 

The Leftist cadre will not quit, because their movement is built on racism, lies, hate and violence. Their entire philosophy is one of hate.

 

An accusation from the Left is an admission they do it themselves.

 

If the Left opposes a policy, that policy is generally good for America. If they support a policy, its good for them and bad for America.

[simple1]

11 hours ago, TedG said:

 

Your post made me LOL.   Can you people stop acting like drama queens and try to engage in rational discussion.  

 

take up your complaint with the author. Got to say I don't recall MAGA referencing a rational argument

[MRMOUSE]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:16 PM, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Another left winger traumatised by a democratic vote 

Why shouldn't they be?

[harryviking]

Just look at the Trumps cabinet! A gang of incompetent people that will just lick Trumps ass for whatever he choses to do! I am afraid the American voters must be some of the dumbest on earth! Trump is incompetent and an imbecile! What could ever go wrong??? Well, lets us just cross fingers and toes and await the results! I wish we could be surprized....but then again.....I am a dreamer at times... 

[Screaming]

I cannot wait for Trump to use his new conservative cabinet to clean house after four years of left wing anarchy. Trump has a mandate from the American voters to undo years of abuse by old sleepy Joe. It should be fun to watch.

[alex8912]

14 minutes ago, harryviking said:

Just look at the Trumps cabinet! A gang of incompetent people that will just lick Trumps ass for whatever he choses to do! I am afraid the American voters must be some of the dumbest on earth! Trump is incompetent and an imbecile! What could ever go wrong??? Well, lets us just cross fingers and toes and await the results! I wish we could be surprized....but then again.....I am a dreamer at times... 

You sound more like a dramatic nightmare! Oi! 

[udontomi]

It's his choice to make and, on the surface, it seems like he's chosen those who agree with him.  That also is what EVERY President does.  Again, on the surface, it seems that some of his choices may not have the qualifications that Washington insiders want.  But the voters have chosen this maverick (Trump) knowing that he will do this.  I just wish he would not make in-recess appointments so that Congress (biased) has the opportunity to question them.  Just look what "qualified" and "experienced" has gotten us in the past!  Corruption and Washington "elites" making the same self-serving decisions!

[johng]

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4996013-robert-redfield-robert-f-kennedy-vaccines/

 

Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) under the first Trump administration, gave a vote of confidence to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as potential head of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

 

 

“Kennedy is not antivaccine. What Kennedy is about is transparency about vaccines, honest discussion about vaccines, asking for the data to show that these vaccines are safe and they’re efficacious.”

 

 

[Snackbar]

Great to be a Nazi, sexist, racist 

 

Not so much much for the NPC Democrats 

Edited November 20 by Snackbar

[JoeRan]

On 11/17/2024 at 5:34 PM, G_Money said:

Woke Gotta go!  Yes!

 

It’s what We The People voted for!

 

Democracy at its finest moment.

We The People have shown just how much the USA is a joke to what the rest of the world already knew. I feel sorry for you all. This is not a left or right, nor a Democrat, nor Republican statement, it is only my personal opinion that is shared by probably 75% of the world. The USA is no longer what it used to be and will only get worse. I have no idea what the answer is, but what you have now is certainly not working.

[Srikcir]

 

"Trump's Cabinet of horrors exposes his totalitarian drift"

No.

Trump's Cabinet of horrors confirms his totalitarian intent.

[spidermike007]

Any sort of individuality and any of your own opinions are not welcome within the maga movement. You have to subscribe to the policies of the master and if you disobey, if you disagree you are thrown under the train, or you are considered to be disloyal.

 

Questioning his policy is going to be a bit like questioning Israeli policy, we are going to be labeled traitors, anti-American, America haters and all kinds of other ridiculous mumbo jumbo by the paint by the numbers crowd. 

[G_Money]

46 minutes ago, JoeRan said:

We The People have shown just how much the USA is a joke to what the rest of the world already knew. I feel sorry for you all. This is not a left or right, nor a Democrat, nor Republican statement, it is only my personal opinion that is shared by probably 75% of the world. The USA is no longer what it used to be and will only get worse. I have no idea what the answer is, but what you have now is certainly not working.

Not to worry weed hopper.

 

Trump and his dream team are about to change it all for the better.

Wait and see.  

The world will sleep better.

 

Happy days are here again!

[WDSmart]

Yes, but apparently, a plurality of voters (49.9% the last I saw) either didn't think about that, didn't care, or actually support that. 

[tai4de2]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Any sort of individuality and any of your own opinions are not welcome within the maga movement. You have to subscribe to the policies of the master and if you disobey, if you disagree you are thrown under the train, or you are considered to be disloyal.

 

Questioning his policy is going to be a bit like questioning Israeli policy, we are going to be labeled traitors, anti-American, America haters and all kinds of other ridiculous mumbo jumbo by the paint by the numbers crowd. 

 

What you are describing is *exactly* how "progressives" operate; I think applying it to the (R) side is just projection because the big story in the 2024 election cycle is how the (R) side morphed into a "big tent" movement. As such there's actually quite a bit of variation in our thinking -- for example, there definitely is not uniform consensus about abortion, previously a pretty monolithic issue within the (R) party.

 

At his inauguration, I could imagine Trump repeating (from 2016) that he would like to be the president for *all* of the USA, not just his true believers. And -- unlike the disingenuous (D) slate being replaced -- he'll actually mean it.