BREAKING NEWS Biden lifts restrictions on Ukraine using US weapons to strike deep inside Russia.

[Cryingdick]

6 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/17/russia-targets-ukraines-power-grid-in-biggest-missile-strike-in-months-officials-say

 

The president also insisted that the US under Trump could not force Ukraine into a humiliating or unattractive peace settlement. “We are an independent country,” Zelenskyy said, adding: “The rhetoric of ‘sit down and listen’ does not work with us.”

In response, Elon Musk, a billionaire adviser to Trump, sought to undercut the Ukrainian president. “His sense of humour is amazing,” Musk posted on X. Musk’s Space X company provides Starlink satellite internet services of critical importance to Ukraine for battlefield communications.

[thaibeachlovers]

I think this is more a BS display of grandstanding by the US ( and France/ UK if they are also joining in ), as given the cost of the things I can't see an unlimited supply heading to Ukraine. IMO it's just part of the preparation for negotiations, rather than any attempt to win the war for Ukraine.

With the propaganda reversing from "never stop till Ukraine wins" to "let's negotiate" there are going to be a lot of boys dying to get facts on the ground before the fat lady sings.

[harryviking]

2 hours ago, jasonsamui55 said:

He couldn't win the election. His girl couldn’t win. But he wants to leave his legacy and start WWIII. Insanity.

BS. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, harryviking said:

BS. 

I love your well thought out rebuttal of his post, and the dramatic use of evidence to prove your claim.

Keep 'em coming.

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Correct. If Zelensky sent a missile into the Kremlin, Kiev would cease to exist.

Ukraine drones already hit the Kremlin

[RichardColeman]

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I wonder if the Bidens have gotten any cash from overseas recently.

You can have all the cash in the world, but it cannot help your mental decline. His days of enjoying his bribed cash are well behind him.

 

 

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

You can have all the cash in the world, but it cannot help your mental decline. His days of enjoying his bribed cash are well behind him.

 

 

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

 

[bendejo]

Sounds like Biden saying 'this time it's your turn to clean it up, buddy."

 

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

You can have all the cash in the world, but it cannot help your mental decline. His days of enjoying his bribed cash are well behind him.

 

 

Worst President ever.

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, Tailwagsdog said:

Pummel the Putin Fascist dictatorship into the ground, destroy the dirty dog and finish the war he stated. The world will be so thankful to Ukraine and its allies and including many Russians that want peaceful prosperous lives without their boys & men being sent to slaughter. Make Ukraine strong & remember all those innocent good hearted men & women that died fighting for freedom. 

An ignorant comment. This is a move from a lame duck president war hawk that edges the world closer to WW III and can quite easily be seen as trying to railroad any chance Trump has of finding a peaceful solution. ATACM's will make a difference for sure but their simply won't be enough to stop and reverse Russia's gains. It will push back the Su-34's release point of their glide bombs in some areas which is now in Russian held territory but again there won't be enough of them and will certainly do nothing to stop drone attacks. As it is Russia is winning this protracted attritional war. The use of ATACMs into Russian territory will slow down the advance and will interrupt supply but won't stop it. The war needs to be stopped and this lame duck at the 11th hour of being in office has just thrown fuel onto the fire.

Edited 3 hours ago by dinsdale

[anotherexpat4444]

Biden could have done this a year before .    Trump peace plan is surrendering to  Putin

 

when it comes to Gaza  Hamas is the aggressor

but when it comes to Ukraine   Trump want peace 

Edited 3 hours ago by anotherexpat4444

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, pattayasan said:

Now this story has flushed the Russian trolls out of the woodwork, LOL,

Ridiculous comment. Basically for you anyone who doesn't agree with your progressive left woke view is a Russian troll. Anyone with common sense is a Russian troll. I suggest you shouldn't throw the term "troll" around so liberally. It might rebound.

[Cryingdick]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

An ignorant comment. This is a move from a lame duck president war hawk that edges the world closer to WW III and can quite easily be seen as trying to railroad any chance Trump has of finding a peaceful solution. ATACM's will make a difference for sure but ot enough to stop and reverse Russia's gains. It will push back the Su-34's release point of their glide bombs which is now in Russian held territory but will certainly do nothing to stop drone attacks. As it is Russia is winning this protracted attritional war. The use of ATACMs into Russian territory will slow down the advance and will interrupt supply but won't stop it. The war needs to be stopped and the lame duck at the 11th hour of being in office has just thrown fuel onto the fire.

 

From what I know the ATACM need starlink to guide them. Musk could very easily make a geo-fence.  The missiles won't mean a thing if Trump isn't on board. Because Trump essentially controls their entire communications they will instantly know of any launch. 

 

 

[Social Media]

Copy and paste post removed from an unapproved blog @Hakuna Matata

[Tropicalevo]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems we have someone posting that doesn't know that Putin has nukes. While he may not have used them so far, it's irrational to believe that he would not if Russia was losing.

In that event, a lot more Ukrainians will die, and perhaps everyone the poster knows as well as himself.

 

Russia had nukes when it started the war.

Are you suggesting that Ukraine should just roll over because 'Russia has nukes'?

That implies that you prefer that Ukrainians should be prisoners for the rest of their lives rather than fighting for their freedom.

And then when Russia invades another country, and another .......

 

Sorry TBL but that is a sad, frightened response.

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, pattayasan said:

 

The US already knows Putin isn't going to use the nukes. Never.

How does the US know this?

 

And if the US knows this, why did the gloves not come off until now? 

[Yellowtail]

I hope that "Biden's" recent policy change brings a quick end to the war. It might be all that's needed to influence Putin that an agreement is in his best interest. 

 

I hope the issue is resolved before Trump takes office. 

[Walker88]

Let's see....45 2.0 or nuclear holocaust ???????

 

Hobson's Choice, it is.

 

Or as they say in Thailand, "Same same...but different".

[pattayasan]

The decision is limited to the Kursk region anyway, without US authorization. There's 50,000 Russian troops amassed there, together with 10,000 North Korean troops.

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

The decision is limited to the Kursk region anyway, without US authorization. There's 50,000 Russian troops amassed there, together with 10,000 North Korean troops.

Big tactical mistake for Ukraine to go into Kursk. The eastern border is much more important and needs the troops. The Russians are steadily moving west albeit bit by bit.

Edited 29 minutes ago by dinsdale

[pattayasan]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Big tactical mistake for Ukraine to go into Kursk. The eastern border is much more important and needs the troops. The Russians are steadily moving west albeit bit by bit.

 

Do you remember the Maginot Line? You're suggesting that Ukraine should have poured massive defense effort into the most fortified area. Instead, those the Sun Zhou method and went for the weak point. At this stage I'd say the Kursk region is more important to Russia than the Donbas is to Ukraine.

[frank83628]

41 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

Russia had nukes when it started the war.

Are you suggesting that Ukraine should just roll over because 'Russia has nukes'?

That implies that you prefer that Ukrainians should be prisoners for the rest of their lives rather than fighting for their freedom.

And then when Russia invades another country, and another .......

 

Sorry TBL but that is a sad, frightened response.

Russia isnt going to invade another and another.

turn off the western propaganda, 

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Do you remember the Maginot Line? You're suggesting that Ukraine should have poured massive defense effort into the most fortified area. Instead, those the Sun Zhou method and went for the weak point. At this stage I'd say the Kursk region is more important to Russia than the Donbas is to Ukraine.

The most fortified area you speak of is under great pressure from a constant movement west by the Russians. I think you need to go and have a look at some of the war maps. Kursk has no real tactical value. This was a strategic gamble not a tactical move and it takes troops away from the eastern border which is slowly but surely moving west.

Edited 13 minutes ago by dinsdale

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

The most fortified area you speak of is under great pressure from a constant movement west by the Russians. I think you need to go and have a look at some of the war maps. Kursk has no real tactical value. This was a strategic gamble not a tactical move and it takes troops away from the eastern border which is slowly but surely moving west.

 

It's managed to take 50,000 Russian troops away from other regions that weren't there before. That's the reason for the authorization.

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

It's managed to take 50,000 Russian troops away from other regions that weren't there before. That's the reason for the authorization.

I'm fairly sure that Russia has the troops and ammunition to spare. Ukraine doesn't. Apart from this you do not know the reasoning behind the Kursk move so don't make out you do. 

[blazes]

Old Joe, still a Christian at heart, believes his legacy is to be compared with Samson, who brought down the pillars of the Temple and killed both himself and all the Philistines.   (Needless to say, the "Philistines" in the Biden version are either the Russians or the Maga Army - or both - plus all the Dem lefties of the last 4 years who betrayed him into losing to Goliath.)

[pattayasan]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I'm fairly sure that Russia has the troops and ammunition to spare. Ukraine doesn't. Apart from this you do not know the reasoning behind the Kursk move so don't make out you do. 

 

The reason is that the Kursk region is an important buffer zone to secure Russia's East border from incursions which are going to keep happening as long as Russia holds Ukrainian territory. 40k troops plus logistics is not pocket money even for the Russians.