New Alcohol Control Bill Nearly Finalised; Set for December House Vote

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The Alcoholic Beverage Control Bill is nearing completion and could be put before Thailand's parliament by mid-December. Leading the review, Mr Wisarn Techathirawat, head of the special scrutinising committee, stated the bill is now 80% complete.

Booze control ?

Freely available almost 24/7, when closing times are applicable enough alternative vendors will oblige.

When a public holiday dictates no sale, again certain vendors will oblige.

 

[quake]

3 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Booze control ?

Freely available almost 24/7, when closing times are applicable enough alternative vendors will oblige.

When a public holiday dictates no sale, again certain vendors will oblige.

 

 

Yes,  and a round of applause for the Mar & Par shops of Thailand.  

Good job. 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by quake

[kuzmabruk]

1 hour ago, NemoH said:

The restriction to buy alcohol 11-2pm purportedly to stop drinking during office hour ..is big big joke 🤣🤣🤣

Kid’s lunchtime.  Not work or adult related 

[Cabradelmar]

Alcohol is scourge. But to each their own. I'll never be mad about more control of alcohol (especially to people who lack self-control).

[hotchilli]

7 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Yes,  and a round of applause for the Mar & Par shops of Thailand.  

Good job. 

 

 

Indeed mine is a 2 minute walk from my place... service with a smile every time

[dinsdale]

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its to stop people drinking all day long 

Love your logic. Pity it's total BS. 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Love your logic. Pity it's total BS. 

   

   Why is that law in place then ?

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   

   Why is that law in place then ?

It ain't to stop people drinking all day that's for sure. My local M&P opens around 7 in the morning and closes around 11 in the evening. I can buy alcohol there any time when it's open including the ridiculous Buddhist holiday alcohol sales prohibition. As for the law it was initially brought in (1970s?) to stop politicians getting pissed (I think) but never really enforced until 2004 when Thaksin clamped down on the enforcement of the 00.00-11:00 and 14:00-17:00 prohibition of alcohol sales citing protecting schoolchildren.  

Edited 4 hours ago by dinsdale

[Lee4Life]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I am surprised. After all, drugs are cheaper and easier to obtain.

But hey - let's hit the legal stuff again.

Doesn't "youth" include minors? Doesn't sound legal.

[Nick Carter icp]

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It ain't to stop people drinking all day that's for sure. My local M&P opens around 7 in the morning and closes around 11 in the evening. I can buy alcohol there any time when it's open including the ridiculous Buddhist holiday alcohol sales prohibition. As for the law it was initially brought in (1970s?) to stop politicians getting pissed (I think) but never really enforced until 2004 when Thaksin clamped down on the enforcement of the 00.00-11:00 and 14:00-17:00 prohibition of alcohol sales citing protecting schoolchildren.  

 

  Whether the law is effective or not is one topic , why the law is in place is another topic .

   Its nothing to do with Children because children are in school from 8 AM - 4 PM and its ALREADY illegal to sell alcohol to under 20's whatever time of day it is 

[riverhigh]

2 hours ago, jdstrange said:

Anyone have an idea what the photo represents in the article?

Virtual signaling. It's a photo from the Ministry of Public Health on congratulating themselves for enforcing the Alcoholic Beverage Control Act. I guess in their minds "the eight-month gruelling interegaion review procces" of the Act was like enforcing it. I guess they want their faces out there showing that the are doing something and who needs to be paid off. Just joking. Just joking.

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[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Whether the law is effective or not is one topic , why the law is in place is another topic .

   Its nothing to do with Children because children are in school from 8 AM - 4 PM and its ALREADY illegal to sell alcohol to under 20's whatever time of day it is 

If you say so. I guess you were here as I was in 2004 when one day I could buy a beer at 711 at 16:30 and the next day I couldn't. Illegal to sell to under 20's? Yep tis true but TIT. I've seen e.g. 8 yr old's buying alcohol for the "grown ups" at the local M&P.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

If you say so. I guess you were here as I was in 2004 when one day I could buy a beer at 711 at 16:30 and the next day I couldn't. Illegal to sell to under 20's? Yep tis true but TIT. I've seen e.g. 8 yr old's buying alcohol for the "grown ups" at the local M&P.

 

   I was still buying beer in 7/11's in 2010 past midnight .

That laws affect all of Thailand , just because your local M&P shops sell alcohol to Children , that doesn't mean that Children can buy alcohol all over Thailand .

   School kids dont seem to have any interest in drinking alcohol anyway

[Gottfrid]

2 hours ago, jdstrange said:

Anyone have an idea what the photo represents in the article?

Not to worry. Like don´t get wasted!

[chilli42]

So they think that they can somehow legislate sensible alcohol consumption? This is a fools errand. Alcohol consumption is an individuals choice.  As long as it’s available there will be abusers. It’s about how many there are. The best a government can do is ensure rigorous enforcement of existing laws (eg road safety, DUI etc) and create awareness for the physical and mental cost of alcohol abuse. A tall order I know for a ‘live for today’ society.

[Guitar God]

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I am surprised. After all, drugs are cheaper and easier to obtain.

But hey - let's hit the legal stuff again.

Yeah, the “legal” stuff that’s responsible for the majority of most fatal vehicle accidents and chronic disease. The “legal” stuff that has an LD50,  that people actually die from if they consume too much. 
The original date rape drug. The drug responsible for most domestic violence. 
 

If you’re taking about cannabis, it’s now legal too and it doesn’t have all the negatives that alcohol does. 
In every place that’s (re)legalized cannabis, both opiate and alcohol use decreased as did automobile accidents, violence and other crimes and social problems. 

[Srikcir]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

empowering provincial committees with localised authority

Unless these committees are democratically elected, they'll be unaccountable political hacks.

[jcmj]

Until they give high fines for DUI and worse if they don’t have a license nothing will change. They occasionally set up checkpoints but need a police force out all of the time to catch and stop those they believe are under the influence. Laws mean absolutely nothing here because they are never enforced. 

[Bert got kinky]

1 hour ago, quake said:

 

3 bottles of beer and you come out with that, sorry on number 4 now. 

Please stop,  your making yourself look very silly.

 

 

 

Haters gonna hate.  🤣

 

[proton]

Why is it illegal for stores to sell booze within 300 meters of a school, when it's illegal to sell to kids anyway?

[quake]

6 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Haters gonna hate.  🤣

 

 Was that it.

Move along,  nothing to see here.  

[quake]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

Why is it illegal for stores to sell booze within 300 meters of a school, when it's illegal to sell to kids anyway?

 

That's true but most Thais will do anything for money.

[proton]

2 hours ago, quake said:

 

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well the beer in cheaper thare than Glasgee

 

 

[quake]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

well the beer in cheaper thare than Glasgee

 

 

 

Loved it back in the day. 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

11 minutes ago, proton said:

Why is it illegal for stores to sell booze within 300 meters of a school, when it's illegal to sell to kids anyway?

 

   I don't know , Why is it illegal for stores to sell booze within 300 meters of a school, when it's illegal to sell to kids anyway?

[sambum]

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Make the local alcohol drinks more expensive... Ridiculous that a  a few bottles of beer are more expensive than a whole bottle of Thai whiskey.... And the imported wine are extreme expensive because of the import tax and that for low quality of wines.. And besides that make bar owners or bartenders be responsible for the amount of alcohol someone drinks as in many countries they do.... They must be able to say enough is enough now, your drunk already.... but here in Thailand only money counts that is why the entertainment venue is open till 4.am ... why not close at 1 am  surely on weekdays.... rules rules rules in Thailand will never be followed and there are a lot of them.. no alcohol sales on Buddhists holidays and or election days, but you can buy and drink if you want except for the big shops..  is just an example

 

"And the imported wine are extreme expensive because of the import tax and that for low quality of wines."

 

It must be nearly a year now that we were told that the import duty on imported wines and alcohol was going to be reduced by 50% - and taxes reduced as well! What happened? It would appear - NOTHING! 

[norsurin]

Some time ago i had a party with some ladies at my apartment.At about 3 am the booze was empty.

I went outside and stopped a taxi.I speak thai well and i asked if he know where i could get liquor to buy at that time.He made some phonecalls and he took me to the big building where the company distribution alcohol to 7/11 and other shops.The manager took me inside and i could buy whatever i wanted to a fair price.So i did.

The taxi brought me back and everybody get happy.I allways have some liquor and beers in my apartment but i doesn't mean i drink everyday.

 

[Burma Bill]

3 hours ago, ronster said:

So maybe some people will realise that stopping tourists drinking or buying booze between certain times makes no difference to how thais behave or what people think of the country.

They might even realise stopping thais buying alcohol on voting days , Buddhist days also does nothing as they just buy it all the day before to drink the next day ! 😄

 

Also on the day itself - certainly out in the sticks from Mom & Pop stores as I can recall.

[Purdey]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

One of the bill's principal aims is to tackle Thailand’s increasing trend in alcohol consumption, especially among women.

Misogyny. 

[black tabby12345]

No proposal of Increasing Sin(Alcohol) Tax included?

It is absolutely the Golden Opportunity for Pheu Thai to take advantage of, for creating another source of Easy Billion for the 0.1% of the kingdom though.

(Just like the idea of more levy on salt and cooking oil as reported recently)

 

 

If is goes without it, really surprises me.

 

I am a 100% Non-Drinker.

But still, quite cynical about this kind of move.

 

As the legislation based upon  Empty Public Stance often fails.

Without proper health awareness education at school, eating/drinking habits won't any change at present or in any future.

 

Restriction or Ban simply pushing aside the problem out of law makers' sight.

Good example of the Alibi Legislation.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by black tabby12345