New Alcohol Control Bill Nearly Finalised; Set for December House Vote

[proton]

27 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

"And the imported wine are extreme expensive because of the import tax and that for low quality of wines."

 

It must be nearly a year now that we were told that the import duty on imported wines and alcohol was going to be reduced by 50% - and taxes reduced as well! What happened? It would appear - NOTHING! 

 

Temporary measure to boost tourism which never altered any prices on the shelf

[saintdomingo]

3 hours ago, OldmanJ said:

If people can't get drunk and have a good time by 2.00am there is something really wrong with them.Make it a law that every and any place selling alcohol after 2.00am gets a 25,000 baht fine and if again face serious jail time and close the business down.

As quake has said many people don't  finish work till 2.00 am. Pre covid there was a bar in my soi in Pattaya that filled up after 2.00 am with staff from other bars. No noise or nuisance either. Sometimes the Thai way makes sense.

[sambum]

19 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Temporary measure to boost tourism which never altered any prices on the shelf

 

You mean another promise to do something and in reality, do nothing?

 

The "tourism" should have said - "OK you're going to reduce import tax on wine and spirits by 50%. When you have done that, and the shelf prices go down by a similar amount, I will extend my holiday by 50% to match it!" 

Maybe it's a case of "here comes the new boss - same as the old boss" By which I mean that the promise was made by a previous PM/Party, so the current one will say "Nothing to do with me!" (We're enduring that in the UK just now!) 

 

Just as a matter of interest, I wonder if any reference will be made to taxation and import duty in the new "Alcohol Control Bill"! 🙂 I somehow doubt it as the main point of the exercise seems to be:- 

".......... the authority to determine zoning areas and establish tailored regulations."

And,  "alcohol prevention among youth remains a focal point."

 

You never know, they might decide to scrap the ban on purachasing alcohol at Tesco or Macro between 2pm and 5pm in my neck of the woods as it is a tourist area and they want to look after us , don't they? 😉

 

Edited yesterday at 09:04 AM by sambum

[Andycoops]

4 hours ago, NemoH said:

The restriction to buy alcohol 11-2pm purportedly to stop drinking during office hour ..is big big joke 🤣🤣🤣

You've got it wrong you can buy between 11 and 2pm if you can read the English signs in Lotus, BigC etc

[Andycoops]

Devolving responsibility to local Muppets is a huge error of judgement, these people weald enough power as it is with vote rigging, corruption etc.

 

They need less control of the local population not more, a fricking disaster 

[Mayhem11]

Oh dear the booze Nazis are out in force.

[connda]

So essentially, nothing will change.

[newbee2022]

Only interesting for all the booze artists here on AN.😂. 

[quake]

21 minutes ago, Mayhem11 said:

Oh dear the booze Nazis are out in force.

 

Yes,

But I don't mind the odd glass of Fuhrerwein,  now and again. 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by quake

[quake]

14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Only interesting for all the booze artists here on AN.😂. 

 

But here you are. 

[Surasak]

6 hours ago, OldmanJ said:

If people can't get drunk and have a good time by 2.00am there is something really wrong with them.Make it a law that every and any place selling alcohol after 2.00am gets a 25,000 baht fine and if again face serious jail time and close the business down.

Control Central has spoken!

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, quake said:

 

But here you are. 

And your point is?????😳

[saintdomingo]

39 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

And your point is?????😳

Well to simplify it as much as possible, you are calling people posting on here booze artists yet you are doing the same yourself. 

[phetphet]

7 hours ago, jdstrange said:

Anyone have an idea what the photo represents in the article?

+1

[KCPhuket]

6 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Totally agree,

 

If a guy wants to drink beer in the morning, it's his choice.

 

I've not drank for three months, but my waistline isn't saying the same.

Something else is taking the drinks place, keeping.your belt in the same notch. Work on it!

[Spamhead]

5 hours ago, quake said:

 

That's true but most Thais will do anything for money.

Probably as a reaction to the increasing obesity in school children. This way they can ensure kids are 

active by completing a walk of at least 600m each day.   

[ericthai]

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   

   Why is that law in place then ?

I was told decades ago it was to keep school kids from buying alcohol, which makes no sense as they aren't old enough anyway. 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, ericthai said:

I was told decades ago it was to keep school kids from buying alcohol, which makes no sense as they aren't old enough anyway. 

 

  Comforting for the older guys who cannot get a beer at 10 AM,,,,,,,,,,",its not me, its done for the school kids to stop them drinking all day, not me" 

[CallumWK]

11 minutes ago, ericthai said:

I was told decades ago it was to keep school kids from buying alcohol, which makes no sense as they aren't old enough anyway. 

 

Of course the law makes no sense, but it was brought in force by Thaksin.

 

Look who's back

[ModdaPunk]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

One of the bill's principal aims is to tackle Thailand’s increasing trend in alcohol consumption, especially among women.

 

This is where feminism leads...

 

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

Well to simplify it as much as possible, you are calling people posting on here booze artists yet you are doing the same yourself. 

It might surprise you...... I'm not doing the same

[Baht Simpson]

11 minutes ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

This is where feminism leads...

 

Women need safe spaces where they can drunkenly twirl toilet seats around their heads. 🙂 

[Mannekenpis]

10 hours ago, RabCNesbitt said:

I recently had 2 guys (not Thais) come in to my bar in Chiang Mai asking for beers at 3:00pm. I told them that we are not allowed to serve alcoholic beverages between 2:00pm and 5:00pm - they laughed, then said that they live in Phuket and have never heard of such a law!

My point is that if it is going to come down to the 'local authorities empowerment' then this ridiculous law will continue to be enforced in some places and not in others.

Oh, it does exist in Phuket. They rarely check restaurants or bars though but I know a bar in Rawai that got busted about 2 years ago 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

 

"The camel is a horse designed by a committee":

The "Middle Path" of amalgamating five differing views will undoubtedly end up with a bill that serves no one.

Localizing control could increase corruption and might cause local feuds to rise while the "No To Booze" brigade offering will no doubt be bad for tourism.

The problem is without the help of a very rare commodity in Thailand, common sense, it is unlikely we will see anything change except higher taxation to pay off that PTP 10,000 baht election bribe.

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by George FmplesdaCosteedback
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[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

8 hours ago, Surasak said:

Control Central has spoken!

What about all the staff who have just finished work at 2am?

When you finish a shift at 5pm don't you like a drink and a bite to eat?

🤢

[AhFarangJa]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

Central to the new legislation is the devolution of power to local provincial alcohol control committees. This move aims to empower these bodies with the authority to determine zoning areas and establish tailored regulations.

Shift any and all responsibility from the central Government to the provinces, thereby making politicians unnacountable.

[Surasak]

5 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

What about all the staff who have just finished work at 2am?

When you finish a shift at 5pm don't you like a drink and a bite to eat?

🤢

As I don't work, it doesn't apply. And for Y I, it never has.

[JimboB4]

Ban that stuff good. 😊 

 

💨 💨 💨 💨 💨 

[kingstonkid]

On 11/19/2024 at 11:55 AM, RabCNesbitt said:

I recently had 2 guys (not Thais) come in to my bar in Chiang Mai asking for beers at 3:00pm. I told them that we are not allowed to serve alcoholic beverages between 2:00pm and 5:00pm - they laughed, then said that they live in Phuket and have never heard of such a law!

My point is that if it is going to come down to the 'local authorities empowerment' then this ridiculous law will continue to be enforced in some places and not in others.

The challenge for a lot of people is that the law seems to be 2 separate laws

 

There is the Thai law and then there is the we want tourism law.

 

Thai law is established in areas with predominantly Thai people. Patpong is in the SalaDeng Silom area, so it is deemed to be a Thai working area.

 

Yes, I know there are many businesses around Suk, but it is predominantly a tourist-rich area, and businesses there are more dependent on tourists than Thais.

 

Even in NANA, you have to take into consideration when and what the tourists want. Hence you have a lot of the bars on the street open early, but the Plaxa itself, due to the clientele, is not open until after 5 at the earliest.

 

Cowboy, the bars are open earlier, but the actual girls and goings-on are not until later.

 

The challenge outside the city is that most Thais drive or ride to the bar to drink. That is where the issue arises.  

I actually think that the hours work,  In a strange way because if youwant a beer there are places that are selling or you just have to go to 7/11 Lotus or tops when it is legal buy your poison and go home and drink it.

 

What throws me for a loop is watching people in the middle of the day walking along the street with a big bottle of CHANG in their hands.  

Someone, please tell me a country where this is legal.