Foreign man flees after sexually assaulting Thai woman in condo lift - video

[JimTripper]

15 hours ago, khunJam said:

It’s blurry can’t see appearance. 

You almost never see someone well enough on a camera and are lucky to get more then a shadow. Their primary purpose is to make people feel safer.

[madone]

5 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Foreign man flees after sexually assaulting Thai woman in condo lift. 

 

But the description in the report does not say anything that is deemed sexual assault. he touched her face her hands and some other areas on body. Did he grab her pu--y or a-- or boo--? 

 

Sexual assault Sexual assault happens when someone either touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. It includes unwanted kissing and the touching of someone's genitals, breasts or bottom.

 

Seems perhaps some exaggeration is being made here to make it seem a lot worse than it was. 

 

The man may have been drunk and grabbed her. But was it sexual assault? Perhaps not. 

 

You disgust me. This entire comment and the fact that you feel the need to make the distinction is creepy as fokk. 

 

While it may not have been outright assault it certainly was sexual harassment -- "a type of sexual violence that involves unwanted sexual attention, behavior, or comments that make someone feel unsafe, scared, or humiliated."  

 

then there is the distinction between harassment and assault which puts this back on the assault side of the scales.

"Sexual assault refers to any physical sexual act that occurs without someone's consent while sexual harassment refers to non-physical sexual conduct such as gestures or sexual comments."

The fact that he, a male, intimidated her and touched her without consent makes it assault, so you may watch yourself in future interactions. 

Edited 8 hours ago by madone

[madone]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Wow this is great, so now for the next 6 months, any time we as a male foreigner get into an elevator, and a Thai woman is on her own, she will right away act pathetic and suddenly walk away to not join you in the same elevator...

 

If they are not watching your every move to catch you working illegally, or randomly shake you down to check your visa, it is these news events causing all Thais to think we are the devil.

Living here in a way really is like having this sticker on your forehead forever. We always first need to proof our innocence before it changes.

 

speak for yourself, this does not affect me, 

[SAFETY FIRST]

15 minutes ago, candide said:

He was dumb.

You are too nice 'dumb' 

 

He's just one of the many filthy, nasty foreigners who are coming to Thailand. 

 

[JimTripper]

I avoid the small elevator in my building if someone else is there. I just take the stairs. It's not worth catching Covid.

[mran66]

Got to wear burkha to be safe from middle eastern men? 

[bbi1]

I get sexually assaulted most times I take a walk down Soi 6, girls seem to like to grab my dickk. I also get sexually assaulted many times at the nightclubs with girls playing with my dickk. Should I go and report it to the cops or secure an interview with Channel 8?

[Ben Zioner]

But she is half naked! What could you expect from a rag head.

[thesetat2013]

6 hours ago, madone said:

 

You disgust me. This entire comment and the fact that you feel the need to make the distinction is creepy as fokk. 

 

While it may not have been outright assault it certainly was sexual harassment -- "a type of sexual violence that involves unwanted sexual attention, behavior, or comments that make someone feel unsafe, scared, or humiliated."  

 

then there is the distinction between harassment and assault which puts this back on the assault side of the scales.

"Sexual assault refers to any physical sexual act that occurs without someone's consent while sexual harassment refers to non-physical sexual conduct such as gestures or sexual comments."

The fact that he, a male, intimidated her and touched her without consent makes it assault, so you may watch yourself in future interactions. 

You disgust me... Taking a story with very little details and making it into a heinous crime. Twisting the words for assault and harassment to suit your needs or beliefs when there is a very big difference especially in punishment to the perp. I hope one day you are in an elevator and a woman enters and you happenstance touch her shoulder or even her back to guide her. And she files a sexual assault charge on you. 

You have no idea what happened in the elevator other than he touched her face and other places and not even sure those other places would constitute an assalt charge. Then you twist it into sexual assault.. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

 

[richard_smith237]

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

You disgust me... Taking a story with very little details and making it into a heinous crime. Twisting the words for assault and harassment to suit your needs or beliefs when there is a very big difference especially in punishment to the perp.

 

The posted video clearly shows unwanted attention and unwanted physical contact.

 

I am not sure how you can possibly defend the male in this interaction. 

 

Harassment and assault are clearly defined terms and this behavior falls firmly within those bounds. This is based on legal context not your 'assumption or interpretation'.

 

The video shoes there was unwanted physical contact - this is both Harassment and an Assault - IF you had watched the video you will see there is no deviation from that behavior.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

I hope one day you are in an elevator and a woman enters and you happenstance touch her shoulder or even her back to guide her. And she files a sexual assault charge on you. 

 

The guy followed the woman into the elevator, followed her out of the elevator, followed her back into the elevator, cornered her in the elevator, touched her in the elevator, she tried to squirm out of the way, the guy cornered her in another corner of the elevator, he toucher her again, she exited the elevator and went to security, the guy fled.    

 

.... Is this something you think you could accidentally do ????

 

The guy didn't live there, he didn't accidentally find himself in a lift with a female, he targeted her.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

You have no idea what happened in the elevator other than he touched her face and other places and not even sure those other places would constitute an assalt charge.

 

Yes we do, there a video !... And yes, the evidence is extremely clear.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Then you twist it into sexual assault.. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

 

The assault was of a sexual nature, its Sexual Assault - you may have been of the assumption that a 'specific area' of the body need to be 'groped' for an assault to be deemed sexual, but this is not the case. 

 

Sexual Assault is quite a broad term and can include: 

- Unwanted physical contact

- Inappropriate proximity

- Coercion or Threats

- Indecent Exposure

- Non-Consensual Sharing of Sexual Content

- Voyeurism

- Sexual Coercion 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by richard_smith237