Foreign man flees after sexually assaulting Thai woman in condo lift - video

[bkk6060]

5 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Wow this is great, so now for the next 6 months, any time we as a male foreigner get into an elevator, and a Thai woman is on her own, she will right away act pathetic and suddenly walk away to not join you in the same elevator...

Good, I much prefer alone in the lift then hearing these girls on their phones or looking at themselves in their camera..

[ChaiyaTH]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

Good, I much prefer alone in the lift then hearing these girls on their phones or looking at themselves in their camera..

How they look at themself, they always wear masks 5555

[ChaiyaTH]

6 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

I understand that nobody has sex there. Are you not aware of the pervert problem that country has?

You are not aware crimes happen everywhere? If they reported locals doing sexual assaults, you had dozens of headlines daily.

Edited yesterday at 02:37 AM by ChaiyaTH

[ujayujay]

Seems to be another lowlife who thinks no means yes in Thailand

[ujayujay]

2 hours ago, Ironmike said:

Another middle Eastern animal coming here because someone ate his goat and he's got nothing to raped,, catch him beat him deport him

The assumption that it could be a man from the Middle East is based on your racism and you accept that as fact😝😝😝

[Jonathan Swift]

13 hours ago, novacova said:

Who witnessed this?

The camera. Why do you ask? Is there a reason to doubt her credibility? There is undoubtedly plenty of video footage - have you seen it? The camera doesn’t lie. In law the credibility of the witness is taken into account by the courts and law enforcement. It is extremely unlikely that anyone would make something like this up and endure the inevitable fallout. The police can usually tell when someone is lying, that comes with the job.When they find him they will question him and hear his version. Then they will decide whether probable cause exists. 

[john donson]

no follow up yet?  weird that all CCTV has like a vaseline film on the camera that seems to blur

[riverhigh]

The condominium management, the security guards and Thai woman have my sympathy. Only a month ago this young gym rat nearly pushed me over from behind inorder to stop the automatic door from closing. Young, impatient, seen him before .... he meant no harm. Daily event people rusing through the automatic door without using their access card to save those precious seconds ... makes life difficult for Condominium security. IMHO lets focus on the sick arrogant pervert stalker. The fact that he did not live there and entered illegally with no valid reason, and then after touching the Thai woman without consent exited the building in secret, is proof enough of his guilt. Hope the information the Thai woman provided the police will be sufficient to apprehend this sick arrogant pervert stalker. 

[FritsSikkink]

14 hours ago, novacova said:

Who witnessed this?

"The victim shared CCTV footage of the incident" 

Nice to blame the victim.

Edited yesterday at 03:02 AM by FritsSikkink

[candide]

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You'll find him on Soi Buakhou with all the other sex pests today. 

 

The sex pests you are mentioning are unlikely to assault anyone as they can easily have cheap sex around there.

[bbbbooboo]

with such. clear photo of the guy, he should be picked up quickly you would think

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

18 minutes ago, candide said:

The sex pests you are mentioning are unlikely to assault anyone as they can easily have cheap sex around there.

Oh, does Bangkok not have the cheap sex you are mentioning? 

 

[Emdog]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

why would someone rape in a country where sex is so readily available everywhere?

 

 

A common enough question here. You need to understand that the excitement, the payoff of rape is in the violent aspect, the taking her against her will. debasing and humiliating. Rape has nothing to do with "normal" sex

[candide]

10 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, does Bangkok not have the cheap sex you are mentioning? 

 

Where did I write It's only in Pattaya?

My point is just that when there is wide access to cheap sex,it is less likely that people feel the need to assault a women. Unless the guy is broke.

Edited yesterday at 03:37 AM by candide

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

My point is just that when there is wide access to cheap sex,it is less likely that people feel the need to assault a women

Did you watch the video? 

 

This creature felt the need to assault. 

 

It seems there's not enough cheap sex 

Edited yesterday at 03:40 AM by SAFETY FIRST

[candide]

4 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Did you watch the video? 

 

This creature felt the need to assault. 

 

It seems there's not enough cheap sex 

He was dumb.

[JimTripper]

15 hours ago, khunJam said:

It’s blurry can’t see appearance. 

You almost never see someone well enough on a camera and are lucky to get more then a shadow. Their primary purpose is to make people feel safer.

[madone]

5 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Foreign man flees after sexually assaulting Thai woman in condo lift. 

 

But the description in the report does not say anything that is deemed sexual assault. he touched her face her hands and some other areas on body. Did he grab her pu--y or a-- or boo--? 

 

Sexual assault Sexual assault happens when someone either touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. It includes unwanted kissing and the touching of someone's genitals, breasts or bottom.

 

Seems perhaps some exaggeration is being made here to make it seem a lot worse than it was. 

 

The man may have been drunk and grabbed her. But was it sexual assault? Perhaps not. 

 

You disgust me. This entire comment and the fact that you feel the need to make the distinction is creepy as fokk. 

 

While it may not have been outright assault it certainly was sexual harassment -- "a type of sexual violence that involves unwanted sexual attention, behavior, or comments that make someone feel unsafe, scared, or humiliated."  

 

then there is the distinction between harassment and assault which puts this back on the assault side of the scales.

"Sexual assault refers to any physical sexual act that occurs without someone's consent while sexual harassment refers to non-physical sexual conduct such as gestures or sexual comments."

The fact that he, a male, intimidated her and touched her without consent makes it assault, so you may watch yourself in future interactions. 

Edited yesterday at 04:00 AM by madone

[madone]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Wow this is great, so now for the next 6 months, any time we as a male foreigner get into an elevator, and a Thai woman is on her own, she will right away act pathetic and suddenly walk away to not join you in the same elevator...

 

If they are not watching your every move to catch you working illegally, or randomly shake you down to check your visa, it is these news events causing all Thais to think we are the devil.

Living here in a way really is like having this sticker on your forehead forever. We always first need to proof our innocence before it changes.

 

speak for yourself, this does not affect me, 

[JimTripper]

I avoid the small elevator in my building if someone else is there. I just take the stairs. It's not worth catching Covid.

[bbi1]

I get sexually assaulted most times I take a walk down Soi 6, girls seem to like to grab my dickk. I also get sexually assaulted many times at the nightclubs with girls playing with my dickk. Should I go and report it to the cops or secure an interview with Channel 8?

[thesetat2013]

6 hours ago, madone said:

 

You disgust me. This entire comment and the fact that you feel the need to make the distinction is creepy as fokk. 

 

While it may not have been outright assault it certainly was sexual harassment -- "a type of sexual violence that involves unwanted sexual attention, behavior, or comments that make someone feel unsafe, scared, or humiliated."  

 

then there is the distinction between harassment and assault which puts this back on the assault side of the scales.

"Sexual assault refers to any physical sexual act that occurs without someone's consent while sexual harassment refers to non-physical sexual conduct such as gestures or sexual comments."

The fact that he, a male, intimidated her and touched her without consent makes it assault, so you may watch yourself in future interactions. 

You disgust me... Taking a story with very little details and making it into a heinous crime. Twisting the words for assault and harassment to suit your needs or beliefs when there is a very big difference especially in punishment to the perp. I hope one day you are in an elevator and a woman enters and you happenstance touch her shoulder or even her back to guide her. And she files a sexual assault charge on you. 

You have no idea what happened in the elevator other than he touched her face and other places and not even sure those other places would constitute an assalt charge. Then you twist it into sexual assault.. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

 

[richard_smith237]

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

You disgust me... Taking a story with very little details and making it into a heinous crime. Twisting the words for assault and harassment to suit your needs or beliefs when there is a very big difference especially in punishment to the perp.

 

The posted video clearly shows unwanted attention and unwanted physical contact.

 

I am not sure how you can possibly defend the male in this interaction. 

 

Harassment and assault are clearly defined terms and this behavior falls firmly within those bounds. This is based on legal context not your 'assumption or interpretation'.

 

The video shoes there was unwanted physical contact - this is both Harassment and an Assault - IF you had watched the video you will see there is no deviation from that behavior.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

I hope one day you are in an elevator and a woman enters and you happenstance touch her shoulder or even her back to guide her. And she files a sexual assault charge on you. 

 

The guy followed the woman into the elevator, followed her out of the elevator, followed her back into the elevator, cornered her in the elevator, touched her in the elevator, she tried to squirm out of the way, the guy cornered her in another corner of the elevator, he toucher her again, she exited the elevator and went to security, the guy fled.    

 

.... Is this something you think you could accidentally do ????

 

The guy didn't live there, he didn't accidentally find himself in a lift with a female, he targeted her.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

You have no idea what happened in the elevator other than he touched her face and other places and not even sure those other places would constitute an assalt charge.

 

Yes we do, there a video !... And yes, the evidence is extremely clear.

 

26 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Then you twist it into sexual assault.. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

 

The assault was of a sexual nature, its Sexual Assault - you may have been of the assumption that a 'specific area' of the body need to be 'groped' for an assault to be deemed sexual, but this is not the case. 

 

Sexual Assault is quite a broad term and can include: 

- Unwanted physical contact

- Inappropriate proximity

- Coercion or Threats

- Indecent Exposure

- Non-Consensual Sharing of Sexual Content

- Voyeurism

- Sexual Coercion 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:36 AM by richard_smith237

[thesetat2013]

 

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The video shoes there was unwanted physical contact - this is both Harassment and an Assault - IF you had watched the video you will see there is no deviation from that behavior.

 

I never said it was not assault or harassment...  You twisted it into sexual assault which is clearly defined as touching certain parts of the body.. Then you have the gall to say i am defending this creep? When clearly i was outlining that it was perhaps not sexual assault... 

Clearly you make it into sex assault without understanding the implications.. I saw the video.. He touched her face and should and waist.... nothing shown in video more than that... 

By the way... you can put your own spin on what is sexual assault... but the definition and the laws are clear about it.. Touching the face or shoulders or waist is not sexual. 

Sexual assault happens when someone either touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. It includes unwanted kissing and the touching of someone's genitals, breasts or bottom.

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

Egyptian Tourist Arrested for Sexual Assault in Luxury Condo Lift

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1344147-egyptian-tourist-arrested-for-sexual-assault-in-luxury-condo-lift/

[lordgrinz]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

UPDATE:

 

Egyptian Tourist Arrested for Sexual Assault in Luxury Condo Lift

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1344147-egyptian-tourist-arrested-for-sexual-assault-in-luxury-condo-lift/

 

Good, I hope he gets locked up for many months, then deported, and blacklisted for life.

[kimamey]

On 11/20/2024 at 8:43 AM, lordgrinz said:

 

Yeah, until it's your own wife or daughter, then the tune usually changes. Lets nip this in the bud right away, my solution is a effective deterrent, and there will be no recidivism.

I see your point but in law there is usually a necessary sense of proportion. Would you suggest the same punishment for speeding, driving under the influence of drink or drugs ect. What about the Thai government  for allowing people to drive without proper testing or policing. Then there's the police themselves for allowing the obvious danger. You could also target a large part of the Thai population for their lack of responsibility on the issue.  And that's just driving, never mind all the other dangers that are deliberately allowed to continue.

I wouldn't want to understate this woman's experience but I think you need to be sensible.

[kimamey]

I don't see any mention of the police,  but maybe I've missed it. 

 

Just had another look and I can see a mention of the police now.  The story seems to focus on TikTok and TV interviews. 

Edited 13 hours ago by kimamey

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

I never said it was not assault or harassment...  You twisted it into sexual assault which is clearly defined as touching certain parts of the body..

 

Look up the definitions of sexual assault - your understanding is incomplete.  

Going by the legal definition this was 'sexual assault'.

 

You are under the wrong 'assumption' IF you think sexual assault means only 'groping' of a region you consider sexual. 

 

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Then you have the gall to say i am defending this creep? When clearly i was outlining that it was perhaps not sexual assault... 

 

OK - apologies for that... It just read that way as you argued this was not a sexual assault, it appeared you were attempting to diminish the severity of this behavior, particularly when you wrote... "Did he grab her pu--y or a-- or boo--? "

 

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Clearly you make it into sex assault without understanding the implications.. I saw the video.. He touched her face and should and waist.... nothing shown in video more than that... 

 

Its still sexual assault.... It doesn't need to be 'more than that' to be considered Sexual Assault - it seems you are attempting to diminish the severity of this incident - the girl must have been terrified.

 

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

By the way... you can put your own spin on what is sexual assault... but the definition and the laws are clear about it.. Touching the face or shoulders or waist is not sexual. 

 

It's my spin, its a legal definition: Try again - re-educate yourself before you do.

 

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Sexual assault happens when someone either touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. It includes unwanted kissing and the touching of someone's genitals, breasts or bottom.

 

Yes.. but its not 'limited' to that - this is where you have a mistaken interpretation.

 

The Egyptian has also now been arrested for 'Sexual Assault'...  its clear in this instance the Police know the definition better than you, too !!.. 

 

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by richard_smith237

[CharlieH]

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