Elderly British Man Injured in Electric Tricycle Crash in Pattaya

[Peabody]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

.. Its targeting the weak and its unhinged... its nasty.

It is sooo MAGAT. I'll bet these is a positive correlation between scooter haters and Twitler ass lickers.

 

[PoorSucker]

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Such vehicles are a life saver for those who can't otherwise get about...  they're safer for these guys who can't ride a bike and perhaps can't drive a car

live close to Painad Chang (handicapped school). If handicapped Thai can do it, so can falang find a legal solution.

[still kicking]

7 hours ago, connda said:

It's not "hate."  It's amazement at the stupidity.  Really - are these "mobility scooters" allowed to drive on the roads and highways of any of the Western countries we come from? Probably not.  Why?  They don't meet standards of safety for road vehicles. If a US cop found you on the road on one you'd probably have a problem on your hands.  However, granted, most US cities of the infrastructure to handle mobility scooter, in other words, functional side walks - something that is missing in Thailand. Otherwise they are a danger to both those who drive them and those who share the roads with them.  They should not be on the roads. 

Wrong they are allowed where I live 

[EVENKEEL]

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wow - So much predictable hate against someone with mobility issues... (and from the obvious posters).

 

Such vehicles are a life saver for those who can't otherwise get about...  they're safer for these guys who can't ride a bike and perhaps can't drive a car - they're an idea solution.  But these pages are so full of hate amongst older folk who still want independence. 

 

The real issues - the road should not have a crate in the middle of it. 

 

On Thailands roads there are so many adapted contraptions that are not registered or licensed - so many un-insured untaxed motorcycles driven by unlicensed riders...   the guys riding mobility scooters are a drop in the ocean - but for some reason they still attract of hate from grade A1 halfwits who breath hate.

 

 

It would be easy for the authorities to allow these vehicles as 'disability vehicles' - I think they are already legal to use the roads where a pavement is non-existent or unenviable - but they have to be below a certain power (Wattage), I think some of these vehicles are over that threshold. 

 

It's not hate. I cringe everytime I go around one of these elec trikes whether it be Thai or foreigner. I'm 67 and I tell my 12 yr old to never, ever allow me to ride one of those contraptions. I honestly feel bad for those foreigners riding on those things.

 

If I get to that point physically I'll have a driver on standby to get me around.

Edited 8 hours ago by EVENKEEL

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's not hate. I cringe everytime I go around one of these elec trikes whether it be Thai or foreigner. I'm 67 and I tell my 12 yr old to never, ever allow me to ride one of those contraptions. I honestly feel bad for those foreigners riding on those things.

 

If I get to that point physically I'll have a driver on standby to get me around.

 

Which is then, cringe at older people with mobility issues, or cringe at people who can't afford their own driver...

... or just cringe at anyone less fortunate than yourself  ??

 

 

IF places such as Pattaya have far better taxi services - perhaps they would not need these forms of transport to get about ...   we don't see them in Bangkok.... 

... so, why aren't you pointing the finger at poor transport options instead of these guys ?

 

 

I think its great that such mobility is available for those who would otherwise suffer to get out and about - especially if the alternative is being house bound or heavily reliant on assistance. 

I'm sure being in traffic is a harrowing experience - but its not their fault Thailand has no pavements or unnavigable pavements... 

 

 

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Which is then, cringe at older people with mobility issues, or cringe at people who can't afford their own driver...

... or just cringe at anyone less fortunate than yourself  ??

 

 

IF places such as Pattaya have far better taxi services - perhaps they would not need these forms of transport to get about ...   we don't see them in Bangkok.... 

... so, why aren't you pointing the finger at poor transport options instead of these guys ?

 

 

I think its great that such mobility is available for those who would otherwise suffer to get out and about - especially if the alternative is being house bound or heavily reliant on assistance. 

I'm sure being in traffic is a harrowing experience - but its not their fault Thailand has no pavements or unnavigable pavements... 

 

 

 

 

I cringe at the danger they put themselves in, I cringe when grandma has  2 little kids riding with her because she's putting the little ones in danger. 

 

If a foreigner in Pattaya can't afford a bolt taxi then his financial planning is the problem and not road conditions.

[Patong2021]

 

So many mean and nasty  people who appear to be projecting their own fears.

 

To those saying that the man is in the wrong because he was on the road,  have you ever been in Thailand?

Sidewalks are often impassable, or too narrow and filled with obstacles making it near impossible to use for people with mobility issues. Curbs are rarely adjusted to allow ease of transition between two adjacent sidewalks. People in wheelchairs and mobility scooters are forced into the roads and they are allowed to  be there.

 

To those claiming the device was illegal; read the applicable Vehicle Act, B.E. 2522 (1979. Motorized wheelchairs are legal and do not require a license or registration.   As per the Act definitions, a “Motorcycle” means a vehicle driven by motor or electric power with not more than two wheels, or not more than an additional wheel in a sidecar, and shall include a bicycle equipped with motor driven devices;   A mobility "scooter" typically has 4 wheels, and is not considered to be a vehicle.

 

To those claiming the man was drunk or blind; what part of pallet left in a road (and without warning barriers, signs, or lights) did you miss? If one cycles or drives a motorbike drives long enough in Thailand, one will have a similar incident when people leave  debris or construction material in the road without any warning indicators. At night, in poorly lit areas, it is easy to run into them. I ran over rebar that was just left on the road, and I nearly wiped out.

 

Thailand is not very mobility friendly to the elderly or those with physical impairments. Not everyone wishes to live in a confined space. Wait until you have a mobility issue and then you will understand the difficulties people encounter. One doesn't realize how difficult it is to walk around in Thai urban areas until one has an injury or an impairment.

[Peabody]

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

a “Motorcycle” means a vehicle driven by motor or electric power with not more than two wheels, or not more than an additional wheel in a sidecar, and shall include a bicycle equipped with motor driven devices;   A mobility "scooter" typically has 4 wheels, and is not considered to be a vehicle.

Where do 3-wheel bikes come in, like a modified Click or Nuovo, officially? Mine is registered, plated, taxed, and insured. I feel like it's legal, but I've never seen anything definitive on the issue.

On a side note, I use a hiking pole when walking and I am constantly pleasantly surprised at the amount of unsolicited assistance I get from Thais of all ages and gender, whether it's being offered a seat on a packed BTS, helped with packages at the BTS when the elevators aren't working, having a chair offered at a crowded bar, getting on or off a bahy bus, or a driver being patient when I cross Soi Buakhow. Just tonight, a Thai woman saw me grimace when I stepped down from a curb and she held my arm by the alnow and walked me back to my condo, pointing out obstacles on the road and sidewalk. 🙂

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I'm not sure if the scooter being licensed, taxed or insured would have prevented the collision with some pallets left in a roadway.

It could just as easily have been a motorcycle ridden at a much faster speed by a drunken farang that came to grief on the obstacle. Or perhaps a child on a bicycle.

This had nothing to do with people's prejudices against electric scooters.

True enough... two wheels travelling at 60-70 kph would have fared worse. 

[sungod]

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I cringe at the danger they put themselves in, I cringe when grandma has  2 little kids riding with her because she's putting the little ones in danger. 

 

If a foreigner in Pattaya can't afford a bolt taxi then his financial planning is the problem and not road conditions.

 

I saw a guy going across very busy crossroads in Pattaya at a snails pace putting himself (and others) in massive danger, these old guys need to realise their limitations to be fair.