How much sin sod for 28 yo single mom of 2 Bangkok suburb (Rangsit)

[thainomad3]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If you were actually for real, there are plenty of Thai women that don't want any sin sod, but given how mean you are with money I guess the only way you have is to pay up.

I agree other girls wouldn't want sin sod but wouldn't I have to pay in other ways like letting her live with me or US visa. Also this girl let me get her pregnant without sin sod (but we lost the baby in September) but now her mother is demanding sin sod.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, thainomad3 said:

I agree other girls wouldn't want sin sod but wouldn't I have to pay in other ways like letting her live with me or US visa. Also this girl let me get her pregnant without sin sod (but we lost the baby in September) but now her mother is demanding sin sod.

Sin sod is for the parents, not the wife. Normally when a farang marries a Thai wife he is expected to support her, not swan off around the world without her and contributing as little as possible.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, thainomad3 said:

Also this girl let me get her pregnant without sin sod

You clearly know nothing about Thai customs.

If you don't want to live with your own rug rat, why do you want to have one?

[richard_smith237]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You clearly know nothing about Thai customs.

If you don't want to live with your own rug rat, why do you want to have one?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

I agree. I'm done on this thread.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 11/27/2024 at 3:51 AM, thainomad3 said:

She has 2 daughters and agreed to give me a kid

Is it you again Bob? 

 

BTW, does anyone like the new colours. 

I'm not a fan. 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by SAFETY FIRST

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

I am viewing her as a way to get kids for as cheap as possible and side chick. While she thinks im a husband. I plan to only financially support my kids and won't live with her much after staying several months this Spring. The sin sod would just be a guarantee for her to let me get her pregnant again and I agree with everyone 100k is too much. Im planning a negotiation to 10k/month while pregnant and I will get a paternity test.

 

I met her in February 2024. That summer, I stayed in her home while taking online classes, paying only the power bill (4,000 baht/month). I got sex daily, and she became pregnant, but we lost the baby in September. This winter, we discussed me staying with her for several months, getting her pregnant, and giving 100k baht Sin Sod.

 

That sounds strange to me.

What is the idea about getting kids for as cheap as possible? Then, what do you do with the kid(s)? Who will raise them? Who will pay for their school? Will they have only a father or also a mother?

As far as I see raising kids properly is expensive, also in Thailand. Just the school fees for decent schools are scary. Keeping those future costs in mind 100k or 1m for the "production" of the kids is just a small part of the all over cost.

[thesetat2013]

4 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

But is it not a fair deal to get a kid from her from 3k or less without having to pay for wedding gold car house etc?

Sounds to me more like you are seeking a surrogate mother.. 

 

The sinsod has nothing to do with paying for a wedding or house or gold. Those are separate and can also be considered sinsod. Gold will be part of the sinsod along with cash. Make no mistake... 

A house, car, etc... You will end up purchasing anyway in the future...because the marriage will not last....She is out for cash. If you pay her sinsod you have the opportunity to lose all 3000 plus the woman and house and chance to make a kid. Sinsod does not guarantee anything and is paid up front. Marriage will cost you over 1500 USD with party and wedding ceremonies alone. Sinsod is a gift.... not a promise or anything like that.. The family can take the money and keep it and kick you out on the street with the only option of getting that money back will be showing proof it was not a gift and was indeed a dowry payment. It has happened in Thailand many times even with Thai men and woman. The costs to retrieve that money will exceed the money you gave them should they cancel the wedding. 

Once again you show you do not really need this woman... You want a kid. I understand that.. But any woman you marry will give you a kid..  So i do not see what is your rush to have this woman and her (baggage) kids along with the deal.  You only plan to come into Thailand a few months in a year. You can be sure she will find lovers or a boyfriend during that time and continually ask you for money monthly while you are gone to support her and the family. You think right now differently and want to justify her requests but you do not look at what will really happen. 

You are setting yourself up for disaster in the future. Once you are married, she will demand money all the time. It will be your responsibility to support her and most likely her family as well.

For your few months a year in Thailand you would only spend a 1000 to 1500 USD renting a condo and a car. Without any obligatory money to her and her family. 

 

Just so you know.. the youngest daughter in the family obtains the house and land when the parents die. Also, any woman you are in relations with would allow you to sleep in their family home if you are in relations with them and wanting to marry. This woman is offering you nothing special except a lot of financial recourse in the future. Eventually, you will be having to pay for her other kids also. Even though now she is not asking this. Have no doubt this will happen. 

[steven100]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How does a 22 year old guy have a spare 100,000 baht, and what sort of job does the OP have to be living in LOS, or is he going to take her and her two kids back home?

sorry Thaibeachlovers,  I replied to the wrong comment ... it wasn't suppose to be you that I said was AI bot.

my sincere apologies for the mistake. 

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You clearly know nothing about Thai customs.

If you don't want to live with your own rug rat, why do you want to have one?

Rugrats are great. 

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

It's very real. I'm trying to reproduce for as cheap as possible while having a place to hangout in Thailand for a few months (taking online classes before graduation).

 

I met her in February 2024. That summer, I stayed in her home while taking online classes, paying only the power bill (4,000 baht/month). I got sex daily, and she became pregnant, but we lost the baby in September.

This winter, we discussed me staying with her for several months, getting her pregnant, and giving a 100,000 baht Sin Sod.

Wackaloodle comes to mind. Has to be a windup or Bob is altering course. 

[mikeymike100]

This may be a bit off topic, but are Thai men expected to pay the same as foreignness regarding this sin sod?

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

This may be a bit off topic, but are Thai men expected to pay the same as foreignness regarding this sin sod?

Depends how old and unattractive they are, and how much money they have.

Women always take all they think they can get.

[quake]

Op. Zero sin sod, she is very used goods.

But must say, sounds like a pork pie thread.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by quake

[steven100]

19 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You should demand at least a half million baht.

Her offer of 100k and an underage daughter is insufficient.

 

C'mon, man!

Don't sell yourself short.

You're worth more than that.

no man .....   just go for a couple of million   !!     2 Million 

[kingstonkid]

8 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

Thank you for the serious reply. 
 

Her kids are 3 and 8. The father ran out of money and he got kicked out.
My plan with her is to get a kid with a hot woman for as cheap as possible

Yes as a foreigner I carry additional risk of being able to run away and impregnate other girls. (I do plan to impregnate more girls).
But I will pay 100% of expenses for my child and make sure she's not trying to keep some of it for herself or other guys kids.
I plan to stay the next few months then only a month or so a year. 

 

I agree with everyone 100k is too much so im gonna negotiate it down / pay it monthly. I will get a paternity test too.

Here is some detailed background:
 

Here is some more background information:

 

Background:
I'm a 22-year-old U.S. student graduating in Summer 2025, planning to live several months a year in Asia.
From January to May 2025, I’ll stay in Asia to study, then return in June for exams (on a tourist visa, staying in Thailand for 90 days).

Afterwards, I’ll work in the US. but visit Asia several months a year. When I’m older (late 20s), I plan to live in Asia more permanently.

 

I met her in February 2024. That summer, I stayed in her home while taking online classes, paying only the power bill (4,000 baht/month). I got sex daily, and she became pregnant, but we lost the baby in September.

This winter, we discussed me staying with her for several months, getting her pregnant, and giving a 100,000 baht Sin Sod.

 

Money:

I'm not a too naive farang though. I've been giving as as little as possible: less than 10,000 baht directly over nine months.
She earns 10,000–15,000 baht/month as a hospital or teacher’s assistant.
She hasn’t asked me to support her kids, but I assume the little money I’ve given goes toward them.
In 5–10 years, I see myself working in financial services in the US or Asia, or possibly as a remote digital nomad in data science. The former is more likely because remote jobs are hard to get.

 

Concerns:
I’m worried she views me as an ATM due to the high Sin Sod demand and fights about money, though she was very kind while pregnant.

It is not Sin sod get that out of youre head.  As I stated she is looking strictly at a business proposition .  You get what your undeveloped mind wants and she gets 100K.

8 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

Justification:
It’s cheaper to have a family in Thailand, and $3,000 is much less than U.S. costs. However, it’s still a lot for me, and I’m concerned she might restrict access to my kids if I don’t provide more money down the line.

 

She is concerned that you might not pay anymoney down the line or even have any contact.

 

8 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

 

She’s okay with no US visa.

DON'T SING THAT SONG TOO LOUDLY.  ONCE THE CHILD IS BORN IT WILL BE A U.S. CITIZEN.  Therfore she can go to U.S. that way I believe.  OPthers on her might clarify that.

8 hours ago, thainomad3 said:

Don't sing that song to loudly

 

So far I plan to negotiate the Sin Sod down or pay over time.

I’ll fully support my child but not much more, but I won’t be present half the year.

I won’t need to buy a house or car like her ex—he already bought items my child can use.

Thoughts?

You say that you will support yuor child but if I am reading you right you are a 22 yearold manchild that is graduating university and has no mens of supporting yourself at the moment as in a real job.  You are still growing up and have not fully developed the mind past sex.

 

You can say all you want what youthink you will do but when you get bck to the Sttes there is no guarantee that you will keep any promises.  She will have no recourse and will be stuck with another mouth to feed.

 

The one thing that you have not told people here that is important is that you only plan to stay for 90 days then go back to the U.S. to work and live.  Eventually you might be back and you might staypermamnently

[thainomad3]

7 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

It is not Sin sod get that out of youre head.  As I stated she is looking strictly at a business proposition .  You get what your undeveloped mind wants and she gets 100K.

 

She is concerned that you might not pay anymoney down the line or even have any contact.

 

DON'T SING THAT SONG TOO LOUDLY.  ONCE THE CHILD IS BORN IT WILL BE A U.S. CITIZEN.  Therfore she can go to U.S. that way I believe.  OPthers on her might clarify that.

You say that you will support yuor child but if I am reading you right you are a 22 yearold manchild that is graduating university and has no mens of supporting yourself at the moment as in a real job.  You are still growing up and have not fully developed the mind past sex.

 

You can say all you want what youthink you will do but when you get bck to the Sttes there is no guarantee that you will keep any promises.  She will have no recourse and will be stuck with another mouth to feed.

 

The one thing that you have not told people here that is important is that you only plan to stay for 90 days then go back to the U.S. to work and live.  Eventually you might be back and you might staypermamnently

So what's the consensus guys? She's exploiting me or I'm exploiting her. Who's exploiting who

[thainomad3]

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Sounds to me more like you are seeking a surrogate mother.. 

 

The sinsod has nothing to do with paying for a wedding or house or gold. Those are separate and can also be considered sinsod. Gold will be part of the sinsod along with cash. Make no mistake... 

A house, car, etc... You will end up purchasing anyway in the future...because the marriage will not last....She is out for cash. If you pay her sinsod you have the opportunity to lose all 3000 plus the woman and house and chance to make a kid. Sinsod does not guarantee anything and is paid up front. Marriage will cost you over 1500 USD with party and wedding ceremonies alone. Sinsod is a gift.... not a promise or anything like that.. The family can take the money and keep it and kick you out on the street with the only option of getting that money back will be showing proof it was not a gift and was indeed a dowry payment. It has happened in Thailand many times even with Thai men and woman. The costs to retrieve that money will exceed the money you gave them should they cancel the wedding. 

Once again you show you do not really need this woman... You want a kid. I understand that.. But any woman you marry will give you a kid..  So i do not see what is your rush to have this woman and her (baggage) kids along with the deal.  You only plan to come into Thailand a few months in a year. You can be sure she will find lovers or a boyfriend during that time and continually ask you for money monthly while you are gone to support her and the family. You think right now differently and want to justify her requests but you do not look at what will really happen. 

You are setting yourself up for disaster in the future. Once you are married, she will demand money all the time. It will be your responsibility to support her and most likely her family as well.

For your few months a year in Thailand you would only spend a 1000 to 1500 USD renting a condo and a car. Without any obligatory money to her and her family. 

 

Just so you know.. the youngest daughter in the family obtains the house and land when the parents die. Also, any woman you are in relations with would allow you to sleep in their family home if you are in relations with them and wanting to marry. This woman is offering you nothing special except a lot of financial recourse in the future. Eventually, you will be having to pay for her other kids also. Even though now she is not asking this. Have no doubt this will happen. 

She doesn't require legal marriage. Her ex paid 100k sin sod and 2 baht of gold. Then handed over half his salary for a decade.

Her mother accepted no gold and only 100k cash. 

 

She's an only child. It's more her mother thinks im an ATM than her. She let me impregnate in the summer with the promise of sin sod later. But we lost the baby in September.

 

Yeah my main concern is she'll hold my kid hostage for money. Maybe I should aim for quality of girl over quantity of kids...

 

[marin]

13 minutes ago, thainomad3 said:

Yeah my main concern is she'll hold my kid hostage for money. Maybe I should aim for quality of girl over quantity of kids...

 

With you as the father that is something to worry about. 

[G_Money]

As a foreigner do not pay any sin sod.

[BarBoy]

Zero. 

 

She should be paying you!

[transam]

11 minutes ago, G_Money said:

As a foreigner do not pay any sin sod.

Yeh but, you are alone in a rented flat, aren't you........?   🤔

Edited 1 hour ago by transam

[thesetat2013]

4 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

This may be a bit off topic, but are Thai men expected to pay the same as foreignness regarding this sin sod?

Haha.... from what i have read and seen.... The average thai man could not afford to give the same amount a foreigner could give. Also, The Thai family will initially ask for quite a lot of money if the intended husband is a foreigner. It is about saving face as well. Foreigners are richer. The sinsod is paraded down the street as you march to the house. Make no mistake that the amount is discussed between all the neighbors, family and friends at how lucky your girl is to have a rich husband that can pay so much for sinsod. At my Thai wedding, I walked a kilometer with a parade of young and old men and women dancing in the streets behind me and the 400k in cash and the 20 baht in gold going to the family house to claim my wife to be. Fortunately for me and my wife, that sinsod was returned to us that evening under our bed discreetly. The family did not want our money or gold and only cared their daughter was happy and would be well taken care of. But at the same time wanted all involved in the wedding to see a large amount being shown. 

Only a rich Thai man could come up with so much cash and gold. So in reply to your question, NO... Thai man normally do not put up more than about 50k and maybe 1 or 2 baht in gold for sinsod. 

Edited 1 hour ago by thesetat2013
typo

[transam]

2 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Haha.... from what i have read and seen.... The average thai man could not afford to give the same amount a foreigner could give. Also, The Thai family will initially ask for quite a lot of money if the intended husband is a foreigner. It is about saving face as well. Foreigners are richer. The sinsod is paraded down the street as you march to the house. Make no mistake that the amount is discussed between all the neighbors, family and friends at how lucky your girl is to have a rich husband that can pay so much for sinsod. At my Thai wedding, I walked a kilometer with a parade of young and old men and women dancing in the streets behind me and the 400k in cash and the 20 baht in gold going to the family house to claim my wife to be. Fortunately for me and my wife, that sinsod was returned to us that evening under our bed discreetly. The family did not want our money or gold and only cared their daughter was happy and would be well taken care of. But at the same time wanted all involved in the wedding to see a large amount being shown. 

Only a rich Thai man could come up with so much cash and gold. So in reply to your question, NO... Thai man normally do not put up more than about 50k and maybe 1 or 2 baht in gold for sinsod. 

Probably felt sorry for you........😢

 

And you are doing a lot of guessing.....

[thesetat2013]

32 minutes ago, thainomad3 said:

She doesn't require legal marriage. Her ex paid 100k sin sod and 2 baht of gold. Then handed over half his salary for a decade.

Her mother accepted no gold and only 100k cash. 

 

She's an only child. It's more her mother thinks im an ATM than her. She let me impregnate in the summer with the promise of sin sod later. But we lost the baby in September.

 

Yeah my main concern is she'll hold my kid hostage for money. Maybe I should aim for quality of girl over quantity of kids...

 

As i said.. any girl you marry and pay sinsod is going to make you babies.... 

The more you tell about this the more it seems you are trying to make her a surrogate mother to bear you a kid and give it to you. The mother may see it this way also and be asking for payment. Not for sinsod. If this is true. Then you still should not give 100k. If I recall. There was a man who wanted to impregnate about 30 women here. He would support them monthly making monthly payments and taking care of their medical. Once the baby was born he would give them the largest part of the agreed price and take the kid... I think he is in jail now after an apartment was raided with about 20 women pregnant by him. 

Be careful, surrogacy is illegal in Thailand. 

[kingstonkid]

5 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Sounds to me more like you are seeking a surrogate mother.. 

 

The sinsod has nothing to do with paying for a wedding or house or gold. Those are separate and can also be considered sinsod. Gold will be part of the sinsod along with cash. Make no mistake... 

A house, car, etc... You will end up purchasing anyway in the future...because the marriage will not last....She is out for cash. If you pay her sinsod you have the opportunity to lose all 3000 plus the woman and house and chance to make a kid. Sinsod does not guarantee anything and is paid up front. Marriage will cost you over 1500 USD with party and wedding ceremonies alone. Sinsod is a gift.... not a promise or anything like that.. The family can take the money and keep it and kick you out on the street with the only option of getting that money back will be showing proof it was not a gift and was indeed a dowry payment. It has happened in Thailand many times even with Thai men and woman. The costs to retrieve that money will exceed the money you gave them should they cancel the wedding. 

Once again you show you do not really need this woman... You want a kid. I understand that.. But any woman you marry will give you a kid..  So i do not see what is your rush to have this woman and her (baggage) kids along with the deal.  You only plan to come into Thailand a few months in a year. You can be sure she will find lovers or a boyfriend during that time and continually ask you for money monthly while you are gone to support her and the family. You think right now differently and want to justify her requests but you do not look at what will really happen. 

You are setting yourself up for disaster in the future. Once you are married, she will demand money all the time. It will be your responsibility to support her and most likely her family as well.

For your few months a year in Thailand you would only spend a 1000 to 1500 USD renting a condo and a car. Without any obligatory money to her and her family. 

 

Just so you know.. the youngest daughter in the family obtains the house and land when the parents die. Also, any woman you are in relations with would allow you to sleep in their family home if you are in relations with them and wanting to marry. This woman is offering you nothing special except a lot of financial recourse in the future. Eventually, you will be having to pay for her other kids also. Even though now she is not asking this. Have no doubt this will happen. 

No he won't he will just change his facebook page phone number and stop responding to requests.  He is going to be in the U.S.  What is there to make him support the child.

 

As soon as he gets on the plane back to the states he is done with it and her.  He then can try his same childish act with American women LOL 

[kingstonkid]

11 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

As i said.. any girl you marry and pay sinsod is going to make you babies.... 

The more you tell about this the more it seems you are trying to make her a surrogate mother to bear you a kid and give it to you. The mother may see it this way also and be asking for payment. Not for sinsod. If this is true. Then you still should not give 100k. If I recall. There was a man who wanted to impregnate about 30 women here. He would support them monthly making monthly payments and taking care of their medical. Once the baby was born he would give them the largest part of the agreed price and take the kid... I think he is in jail now after an apartment was raided with about 20 women pregnant by him. 

Be careful, surrogacy is illegal in Thailand. 

 

Personally I am not sure the Op is thinking that far.  I think he is thinking with little brain and thinks that it woud be nice to have a sife and child that he never has to see.  He can then lead a great life in the U.S. Banging away and not worry.  

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

Personally I am not sure the Op is thinking that far.  I think he is thinking with little brain and thinks that it woud be nice to have a sife and child that he never has to see.  He can then lead a great life in the U.S. Banging away and not worry.  

Haven't they all sworn not to have sex for the next four years?

[GammaGlobulin]

On 11/27/2024 at 3:51 AM, thainomad3 said:

How much sin sod for 28 yo single mom of 2 Bangkok suburb (Rangsit)?

She has 2 daughters and agreed to give me a kid. She is requesting 100k baht.  

I am a 22 yo college graduate from a top western university.

 

What a joke.

She should be paying you.

 

[kingstonkid]

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

What a joke.

She should be paying you.

 

She is already paying him.  Room and board as well as sex all for 4k a month

 

As wellas he is giving her the honour of getting pregnant with his seed while he then leaves her to raise his illegitamate child  on her own while he enjoys the grat U.S. and all the left leaning sex he can get.  He is also allowing her the honour of bearing the next line in his family even though mom and dad will never meet or see it.

 

God what more can she dofor him.