Georgealbert Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 Pictures captured from CCTV below. (Caution CCTV shows the collision) At around 07:00 on November 27, police from Tha Sala Police Station received a report of a fatal collision involving a pickup truck and a motorcycle on Route 401, Nakhon Si Thammarat-Surat Thani, near the Khlong Koi junction in Tha Sala District, Nakhon Si Thammarat. Authorities, including medical staff from Tha Sala Hospital and volunteers from the Tai Tek Tung Foundation, quickly arrived at the scene. Upon inspection, they found the body of a man, aged approximately 30–35 years, lying lifeless in a roadside drainage ditch near a vehicle repair shop. The deceased, who had severe injuries, was initially unidentified, as no personal documents were found on him. His motorcycle, a blue Honda Wave, with license plate from Trang, was located nearby. The impact also caused damage to a road sign, and tyre skid marks stretched along the roadside, indicating the force of the collision. Nearby, the pickup truck involved, a blue Isuzu D-Max, was parked at the scene, and the driver was waiting for authorities. After conducting an initial investigation, the body was sent to Tha Sala Hospital for an autopsy. Later, the victim was identified as Mr. Aung Min Su, 34 years old, a Burmese migrant worker, after his relatives came forward. Footage from a nearby CCTV camera revealed that the motorcyclist had been riding against traffic on the side of the road. At the same moment, the pickup truck driver, traveling at high speed, lost control and struck the motorcycle. The collision caused the victim to hit a road sign and fly into the drainage ditch, resulting in instant death. Police are continuing their investigation to determine whether charges will be filed. -- 2024-11-28 ScreenRecording_11-28-2024 06-11-43_1.mp4 5 1
Popular Post JoePai Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 So the Darwin theory does work 2 1 1
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 Holy Cow, two idiots in the same place at the same time, what are the odds? ......I forgot .....TIT. 3 4 1
RichardColeman Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Georgealbert said: Police are continuing their investigation to determine whether charges will be filed. Against who ? The truck driver that lost control or an dead idiot riding into oncoming traffic ? 50.50 to me. 2
Popular Post hotchilli Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 Pick-up driver had already lost control, unfortunately the rider was in the wrong place at the wrong time going the wrong way... 3
bbbbooboo Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 hmmm… another day of slaughter on Thai roads. I wonder what can be done to reduce this carnage? 1
Popular Post Dutchjohn Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 If the bike rider would have droven the right direction, he would have being killed anyway, with that force 3 1
bdenner Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 I wonder what made the camera operator decided to follow the bike? It's no wonder bikes, samlors etc. drive against the flow with the BS "U" Turn mentality with very long divisions in the roads in Thailand. 1 1
Popular Post Gandtee Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 41 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Pick-up driver had already lost control, unfortunately the rider was in the wrong place at the wrong time going the wrong way... Even if the motorcyclist had been going the right way he would have finished up brown bread. The pick up truck driving too fast in the wet and bald tyres. Wholey to blame in IMO 1 2 1 2
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 47 minutes ago, Dutchjohn said: If the bike rider would have droven the right direction, he would have being killed anyway, with that force Indeed.... the motorcyclist passing the frame earlier was incredibly lucky he wasn't 2 seconds slower... The motorcyclist going the wrong way would have died if he was in that spot going the correct way, as a pedestrian, cyclists etc... The pickup driver driving like a complete lunatic... the direction the motorcyclist was travelling in is all rather moot... 2 2 1
quake Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 Driving/ Riding the wrong way up the carriageway is the norm here. The police do as well, everyday. So no chance of changing things when cops, set such a poor example to the public. TIT. 1
soi3eddie Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 Rip motorcycle rider. Would have been hit even if going the correct direction. A life gone in 2 seconds. 😢 Truck driver should be charged for whatever was a factor in loss of control. Be that speeding, defective tyres or lack of attention to the road. 1
Popular Post digger70 Posted November 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2024 4 hours ago, Gandtee said: Even if the motorcyclist had been going the right way he would have finished up brown bread. The pick up truck driving too fast in the wet and bald tyres. Wholey to blame in IMO RIP If the motorbike had been doing the right thing He would've been on the Other side of the road going the right way and No One got hurt /died. Idiot motorbike riders going the wrong way have a death wish. 3
Digitalbanana Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 Even if the motorbike driver was just stood still on the side of the road waiting for someone he'd have been obliterated just like the signpost nearby. Entirely the car drivers fault. 1
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 23 minutes ago, digger70 said: RIP If the motorbike had been doing the right thing He would've been on the Other side of the road going the right way and No One got hurt /died. Erm - I thought that level of whatifery was reserved for being a taxi which is involved in an accident and then being blamed... "if the taxi wasn't taking the foreigner to the destination it would not have been there" !!! 23 minutes ago, digger70 said: Idiot motorbike riders going the wrong way have a death wish. I don't think any wish they are dead - they are just lazy, but you knew that anyway. The point everyone is making is 'whoever was on the shoulder' at that point in time was going to be wiped out, whatever they were doing... the legality of their actions is quite moot... Another way of looking at it is the 'Final destination' approach - that guys time was up, so if he was on the other side of the road he would have hit a pothole and collided with a tree... etc etc... (not really of course, but that covers the 'whatifery' approach). 1
G Rex Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 just wow! RIP. life deals some people a sh#tty hand sometimes.
Ralf001 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 Pattaya, 7 motorway tuesday morning just gone - 5am Bout half way from suk to toll booths. Iam RH lane pegging a dollar 20, 3 wheel scooter coming at me with a red head light. swerved hard to miss the idiot... clipped the rear bumper of the car beside me. Note to self: next time do not swerve.
Upnotover Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Iam RH lane pegging a dollar 20 Google translate can't. 1
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Pattaya, 7 motorway tuesday morning just gone - 5am Bout half way from suk to toll booths. Iam RH lane pegging a dollar 20, 3 wheel scooter coming at me with a red head light. swerved hard to miss the idiot... clipped the rear bumper of the car beside me. Note to self: next time do not swerve. I wonder how many motorcyclists are either still able to walk or still alive because I either slammed on the brakes, swerved or took other avoiding action when their riding took on a suicidal level of insanity - I'm sure most drivers relate.
lordgrinz Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: The motorcyclist going the wrong way would have died if he was in that spot going the correct way, as a pedestrian, cyclists etc... Not necessarily, he would be driving away from the impact at speed, thus the impact would likely have been less, I'd rather get bumped from behind then hit head-on at combined speeds. 2
Liverpool Lou Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Dutchjohn said: If the bike rider would have droven the right direction, he would have being killed anyway, with that force No, he wouldn't, if he had ridden in the correct direction he would not have been there!
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 18 minutes ago, lordgrinz said: Not necessarily, he would be driving away from the impact at speed, thus the impact would likely have been less, I'd rather get bumped from behind then hit head-on at combined speeds. Possibly - but the speed differential my still have been significant - just look at the other motorcycle (going in the right direction) The approach speed of the pickup was extremely fast (hence the lost of traction in the wet). .... and... getting shunted off the side of the road, at any reasonable speed into a stationary object without a helmet means a very low probability of survival IMO...
Liverpool Lou Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 7 hours ago, bdenner said: I wonder what made the camera operator decided to follow the bike? The CCTV is not following the rider, the person recording the fixed CCTV video on their phone is panning across the CCTV screen following the action.
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 7 hours ago, Dutchjohn said: If the bike rider would have droven the right direction, he would have being killed anyway, with that force No, he wouldn't, if he had ridden in the correct direction he would not have been there! If he'd have left 10 seconds later.... if... if... if... he was in the wrong place at the wrong time - no matter the direction of travel - he was going to get shunted with a great deal of force.
Liverpool Lou Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Gandtee said: Even if the motorcyclist had been going the right way he would have finished up brown bread. The pick up truck driving too fast in the wet and bald tyres. Wholey to blame in IMO If he was going the right way he wouldn't have been in the path of the pickup, he'd have been ahead of it moving to the left of the CCTV video screen. Where was it reported that the pickup had bald tyres?
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said: The CCTV is not following the rider, the person recording the fixed CCTV video on their phone is panning across the CCTV screen following the action. Wrong - watch the time at the top right of the CCTV screen - that also pans across showing that the original cam footage panned with the motorcycle rider, either through pure coincidence or for a reason.
richard_smith237 Posted November 28, 2024 Posted November 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: If he was going the right way he wouldn't have been in the path of the pickup, he'd have been ahead of it moving to the left of the CCTV video screen. Where was it reported that the pickup had bald tyres? Its very fortunate timing that the motorcyclist which was travelling in the correct direction was not taken out too... perhaps saved by as little as 2 seconds... .... This is just terrible timing... with equal 'whatifery' it could have been argued, what if he'd left earlier, finished his 'errand' and returned to the same point in space and time, riding in the correct direction... he'd have been wiped out... Anyone at that point at that time was going to get killed by a lunatic pickup driver speeding in the rain... Now... I'm sure you'll argue that there is no proof of his speeding - I won't get into that because it'll be ridiculous.
lordgrinz Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Possibly - but the speed differential my still have been significant - just look at the other motorcycle (going in the right direction) The approach speed of the pickup was extremely fast (hence the lost of traction in the wet). .... and... getting shunted off the side of the road, at any reasonable speed into a stationary object without a helmet means a very low probability of survival IMO... If you look at the motorcycle that was heading the right direction, the truck is travelling almost the same speed when going through the frame out of control. There doesn't seem to be any significant speed difference between them, the impact would've probably have been pretty negligible, more of a bump. Either way, driving the wrong direction was a really bad idea. They should play this over and over again on the TV news as a deterrent.
NoshowJones Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 20 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Against who ? The truck driver that lost control or an dead idiot riding into oncoming traffic ? 50.50 to me. I'd say 80-20 the dead idiot to blame.
richard_smith237 Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 3 hours ago, lordgrinz said: If you look at the motorcycle that was heading the right direction, the truck is travelling almost the same speed when going through the frame out of control. There doesn't seem to be any significant speed difference between them, the impact would've probably have been pretty negligible, more of a bump. Either way, driving the wrong direction was a really bad idea. They should play this over and over again on the TV news as a deterrent. I mean the speed differential with whatever he impacts when he gets knocked off the bike into the ditch. I agree, the initial impact wouldn't be to be as significant as the closing speeds between two vehicles are less when travelling in the direction and that initial impact is obviously less as you correctly point out. However, the impact with 'anything else' occurs at the same (or very similar speed) - so if the first impact with the picking didn't kill him, even if he was travelling at a similar speed to the pickup, getting knocked into the verge and hitting something hard is going to kill him. So in this case - was it the head-in impact with the pick up that killed him ? - very likely. But, would the impact with the raised ground at the edge of the ditch have killed him ? - also very likely - it'd be like hitting a brick wall at 60kmh (just IMO of course).
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