Thailand's EV Industry Faces Challenges Amid Subsidy Concerns - video

[snoop1130]

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Thailand's electric vehicle (EV) market is facing significant challenges as major carmakers consider opting out of the government's incentive scheme due to a market slowdown. The Electric Vehicle Association of Thailand (EVAT) suggests that manufacturers might abandon subsidies and reevaluate their production strategies.

 

Launched in 2022, the EV3.0 scheme offers benefits like reduced taxes and subsidies, but requires local assembly by 2024 with specific production targets. Chinese manufacturers have expressed concerns about these requirements, questioning their effectiveness in boosting sales amid economic difficulties, according to EVAT President Suroj Sangsanit.

 

Subsidies under EV3.0 include up to 150,000 baht for electric vehicles under 2 million baht, and 18,000 baht for electric motorcycles priced below 150,000 baht. Automakers must adhere to a strict production rule, manufacturing one locally assembled vehicle for each imported car, increasing to a 1.5 ratio if production starts next year.

 

 

In October, sales of battery electric vehicles dropped by 49.7% from the previous year to 3,717 units, while traditional car sales fell by 27.8% to 11,562, according to the Federation of Thai Industries.

 

Brands are considering price cuts to boost sales, but such tactics have previously failed as buyers hold out for further reductions. The decision to relax production requirements rests with the National EV Policy Committee. The Federation of Thai Industries is expected to urge the committee to reconsider the rules to aid struggling manufacturers.

 

Despite these hurdles, EVAT predicts sales of 82,000 electric vehicles this year, representing a 14% market share, up from 12% last year, with expectations of reaching 15% next year. As the industry navigates these challenges, the future of Thailand's EV sector remains uncertain.

 

 

-- 2024-12-06

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

Somehow, I find this EV vehicle hype all over the world funny. 

Lots of people want to tell us all that EVs are easier to maintain and so much better in so many ways. Great, then they should sell like hot cakes. But apparently that is not happening. 

Maybe if the people in charge want to promote them, then they should do everything so that people actually want them. Make it easy to charge them fast everywhere. Adress concerns about fire-risks. If the infrastructure is there, then people will buy those cars. And if not, then not. What's the point of making them cheaper if people don't want to use them?

 

[KhunLA]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Somehow, I find this EV vehicle hype all over the world funny. 

Lots of people want to tell us all that EVs are easier to maintain and so much better in so many ways. Great, then they should sell like hot cakes. But apparently that is not happening. 

Maybe if the people in charge want to promote them, then they should do everything so that people actually want them. Make it easy to charge them fast everywhere. Adress concerns about fire-risks. If the infrastructure is there, then people will buy those cars. And if not, then not. What's the point of making them cheaper if people don't want to use them?

 

People do show quite a bit of ignorance when it comes to EVs.  With the anti EV propaganda, it's not a surprise.   AN is a fine example, as some folks simply being a wee bit ignorant, and understandable, to downright stupid, and or, anti EVs, with no knowledge or at least good research of the facts.

 

EV owners on AN, point out the pros & cons.  If one does the research, and thinks for themselves, listen to owners of, then a decision to buy or pass, should be easy.

 

Much of it, is country dependent also.  Personally, I would stick with the major producers, in TH, with a bit of track record, and dealer network;

MG (bias of course)

BYD

GWM

 

Your post alone shows some of the ignorance, especially about BEVs.  Charging & fires, seriously, as if not debunked enough on AN for TH.  Yet, like yourself, repeat what you read & hear, based on no facts.

 

I guess you'll keep buying overpriced, underperforming vehicles 

[redwood1]

Anyone that buys a EV  is really in need of a brain transplant.....To help them see what a bad investment EVs are....In the long run they will cost more than ICE vehicles when insurance repairs and resale value is included... 

[OneMoreFarang]

26 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Your post alone shows some of the ignorance, especially about BEVs.  Charging & fires, seriously, as if not debunked enough on AN for TH.  Yet, like yourself, repeat what you read & hear, based on no facts.

 

I guess you'll keep buying overpriced, underperforming vehicles 

I own two motorcycles. One which is middle size and fun, and one which is small and still fun. I don't need a car in my everyday life.

And I know that EV vehicle fires don't happen very often. But they happen. And if there would be many more EVs, then there would be many more EV fires in inaccessible locations. I.e. an EV car fire in a steel construction building can make that building unsafe. Is it a big risk now? No. Is it a risk? Yes. 

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Launched in 2022, the EV3.0 scheme offers benefits like reduced taxes and subsidies, but requires local assembly by 2024 with specific production targets. Chinese manufacturers have expressed concerns about these requirements, questioning their effectiveness in boosting sales amid economic difficulties, according to EVAT President Suroj Sangsanit.

Shoot yourself in the foot again.

[watchcat]

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Somehow, I find this EV vehicle hype all over the world funny. 

Lots of people want to tell us all that EVs are easier to maintain and so much better in so many ways.

 

Those are people who have invested i solarpanels on their roofs and think they can sell back power to PEA

[richard_smith237]

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Somehow, I find this EV vehicle hype all over the world funny. 

Lots of people want to tell us all that EVs are easier to maintain and so much better in so many ways. Great, then they should sell like hot cakes. But apparently that is not happening. 

Maybe if the people in charge want to promote them, then they should do everything so that people actually want them. Make it easy to charge them fast everywhere. Adress concerns about fire-risks. If the infrastructure is there, then people will buy those cars. And if not, then not. What's the point of making them cheaper if people don't want to use them?

 

I don't believe any of the 'green hype' behind EV's that they are more environmentally friendly than ICE's...  the reasons why are a separate debate and have been flogged enough in other threads. 

 

However, I own an EV simply because I believe they are better than ICE's now, and yes, simpler to maintain. 

They are easy to charge 'everywhere' - charing at home means we hardly ever need to stop at a petrol station. 

If we are out, we can charge about 50-70% in 20mins - enough to have an ice-cream so no major hinderance.

 

The 'greatest' inconvenient we have had with an EV was when the Wife forgot to charge over night and we had dropped to less than 30% so we stopped off at a PTT station and had a bite to eat - the inconvenience was that the Charging App PTT use had changed, so we had to download and register with another App... (that took an extra few mins).

 

Our car gets about 450-500kms on a full charge - which is pretty convenient IMO.

 

There is enough information that the 'fire risk' is much less than an ICE vehicles.

- EVs: Approximately 250 fires per million vehicles.

- ICE Vehicles: Approximately 15,300 fires per million vehicles.

 

I get your point that EV fires are 'more damaging' - but, considering the stats the likelihood is so very low - its not something I am concerned about with our car parked under our house... 

 

[RichardColeman]

Be honest , its a classic example of not building an infrastructure prior to rolling out a product. EV's may be a great product (in the future) but its being rolled out 20 years too early 

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Be honest , its a classic example of not building an infrastructure prior to rolling out a product. EV's may be a great product (in the future) but its being rolled out 20 years too early 

 

What infrastructure are we short of?  it's sure as hell not chargers.

[GreasyFingers]

18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Your post alone shows some of the ignorance, especially about BEVs.  Charging & fires, seriously, as if not debunked enough on AN for TH.  Yet, like yourself, repeat what you read & hear, based on no facts.

And your post show a total bias because you own one. Every time there is a negative EV post you come out with the same driffel.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

And your post show a total bias because you own one. Every time there is a negative EV post you come out with the same driffel.

Indeed........Turnips..............

[john donson]

green cars charged by coal and diesel...

[GreasyFingers]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Indeed........Turnips..............

I would like a small electric one to run to the markets so I could buy turnips if they were available in Thailand.

[Kinnock]

If interest shown by people at the Motorshow is any guide .... it looks like EV sales will be up next year.

 

Of course visits to stands may not translate to sales, but the busiest were the Chinese EV displays.

 

We're in the market for a new car, but it probably won't be an EV due to our specific needs, but the cars with the most interesting designs and innovative features were definitely the EV's.

[MartinBangkok]

19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

People do show quite a bit of ignorance when it comes to EVs.  With the anti EV propaganda, it's not a surprise.   AN is a fine example, as some folks simply being a wee bit ignorant, and understandable, to downright stupid, and or, anti EVs, with no knowledge or at least good research of the facts.

 

EV owners on AN, point out the pros & cons.  If one does the research, and thinks for themselves, listen to owners of, then a decision to buy or pass, should be easy.

 

Much of it, is country dependent also.  Personally, I would stick with the major producers, in TH, with a bit of track record, and dealer network;

MG (bias of course)

BYD

GWM

 

Your post alone shows some of the ignorance, especially about BEVs.  Charging & fires, seriously, as if not debunked enough on AN for TH.  Yet, like yourself, repeat what you read & hear, based on no facts.

 

I guess you'll keep buying overpriced, underperforming vehicles 

I see the envy of EV-owners when I thunder past them on M3 on my way from Suvarnabhumi to Ban Chang (they can't try to outgun me cause then they would have to turn off their aircon on their way to Rayong to save power)

 

To rub it in, I select the fullest volume on the V6 Ranger Raptors adjustable sports exhaust when I fly by them.

 

The feeling is great.

 

🙂

 

 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, MartinBangkok said:

I see the envy of EV-owners when I thunder past them on M3 on my way from Suvarnabhumi to Ban Chang (they can't try to outgun me cause then they would have to turn off their aircon on their way to Rayong to save power)

 

To rub it in, I select the fullest volume on the V6 Ranger Raptors adjustable sports exhaust when I fly by them.

 

The feeling is great.

Ford Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 ... 0 - 100 kph - 6 secs

The MG ZS EV ...  0 - 100 kph - 8.2 seconds, in smooth peaceful quiet comfort.  With the AC on.

 

Now, repeat after me, 1 thousand, 2 thousand, and now we're both at 100 kph, and I'm 2 secs behind you.  

 

Actually, I stopped at 90 kph ... is that a sped camera up ahead ? 

 

MG ZS EV price ฿599k or ฿829k after the promo.

 

Congrats to you, for paying ฿1,949,000, and you win, for only about ฿1M, to get there about 2 secs before me 

 

Put that in perspective, contract to build our house was ฿1.1M on land that cost ฿76k.   So you have a truck, that can also do 90 kph, and I have a SUV that can 90 kph also & a house, for the same price.

 

Let that sink in, take as long as you need.   Don't hurt yourself.

 

 

 

[lordgrinz]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Ford Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 ... 0 - 100 kph - 6 secs

The MG ZS EV ...  0 - 100 kph - 8.2 seconds, in smooth peaceful quiet comfort.  With the AC on.

 

Congrats to you, for paying ฿1,949,000, and you win, for only about ฿1M, to get there about 2 secs before me 

 

Just trade in the MG ZS EV for the MG4 X-Power, still only about 1.1M baht brand new and you'll beat him to 60 by over 3 seconds 😉 

[CallumWK]

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Ford Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 ... 0 - 100 kph - 6 secs

The MG ZS EV ...  0 - 100 kph - 8.2 seconds, in smooth peaceful quiet comfort.  With the AC on.

 

Now, repeat after me, 1 thousand, 2 thousand, and now we're both at 100 kph, and I'm 2 secs behind you.  

 

Actually, I stopped at 90 kph ... is that a sped camera up ahead ?

 

In other threads, you are bragging about how your electric toy has faster acceleration than ICE cars, so I nominate your post for troll post of the year.
Actually it is difficult to distinguish between all your posts which one qualifies most

[MartinBangkok]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Ford Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 ... 0 - 100 kph - 6 secs

The MG ZS EV ...  0 - 100 kph - 8.2 seconds, in smooth peaceful quiet comfort.  With the AC on.

 

Now, repeat after me, 1 thousand, 2 thousand, and now we're both at 100 kph, and I'm 2 secs behind you.  

 

Actually, I stopped at 90 kph ... is that a sped camera up ahead ? 

 

MG ZS EV price ฿599k or ฿829k after the promo.

 

Congrats to you, for paying ฿1,949,000, and you win, for only about ฿1M, to get there about 2 secs before me 

 

Put that in perspective, contract to build our house was ฿1.1M on land that cost ฿76k.   So you have a truck, that can also do 90 kph, and I have a SUV that can 90 kph also & a house, for the same price.

 

Let that sink in, take as long as you need.   Don't hurt yourself.

 

 

 

What if your Thai wife leaves you for somebody younger and more handsome than you? Or maybe she just leaves you? Say goodbye to the house.

 

PS: It's 5.8 seceonds 0-100 km/h without mods.

[KhunLA]

14 minutes ago, MartinBangkok said:

What if your Thai wife leaves you for somebody younger and more handsome than you? Or maybe she just leaves you? Say goodbye to the house.

 

PS: It's 5.8 seceonds 0-100 km/h without mods.

Together 18+ years, and I'm 70 soon.  Don't think she's going anywhere, and TBH, could care less, as long I get the dog.  I have a usufruct anyway, so I doubt if I'd be going anywhere.

 

Marriage #4, and do you think I worry about little things like a relationship ending ... 

 

I would just rent one of my daughter's houses.  It's only money 

[KhunLA]

20 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

In other threads, you are bragging about how your electric toy has faster acceleration than ICE cars, so I nominate your post for troll post of the year.
Actually it is difficult to distinguish between all your posts which one qualifies most

In the same price point.   Not Apples & Oranges, but nice spin.   I'd expect something almost 2M to have some redeeming qualities.   And 2 whole secs, seriously, for only 1M baht.

 

MG ZS EV ... it's a family SUV, and one of the slowest BEVs.  Economic balance of speed & range, not build for speed, or workload.  The speed limit, mostly, is 90 kph, and gets there plenty fast, if I actually wanted to.

 

When I've discussed the underperformers, I believe that was discussing Yaris, or the Cross s.  Apples & Apples

 

You guys are a trip.  You really have nothing better to do.  Trolling .. you the kettle or the pot 

[KhunLA]

29 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Just trade in the MG ZS EV for the MG4 X-Power, still only about 1.1M baht brand new and you'll beat him to 60 by over 3 seconds 😉 

Nah, love our ZS.

 

I'm not 18 yrs old anymore, I've matured a wee bit since ... a wee bit.

[lordgrinz]

Just now, KhunLA said:

Nah, love our ZS.

 

I'm not 18 yrs old anymore, I've matured a wee bit since ... a wee bit.

 

Yup, I am happy with my MG ZS Ice vehicle, does what I want for now, mainly only city driving at less than 60kph..and spends most of its time stuck in wall-to-wall traffic at 0kph.......LOL

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Yup, I am happy with my MG ZS Ice vehicle, does what I want for now, mainly only city driving at less than 60kph..and spends most of its time stuck in wall-to-wall traffic at 0kph.......LOL

Loved our, 2020 model, and wife misses the red   Wasn't available in 'D' model of BEV.

 

Got the 2022 BEV model when they upgraded the 2019 model, and the 240k incentive helped motivate us, along with solar at the house.

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Loved our, 2020 model, and wife misses the red   Wasn't available in 'D' model of BEV.

 

Got the 2022 BEV model when they upgraded the 2019 model, and the 240k incentive helped motivate us, along with solar at the house.

 

Got mine new in late 2021, its got I think about 12000km on it now.....like I said, wall-to-wall traffic is its normal home......LOL

 

At it's current rate, I should be driving this same vehicle after 10 years 😜

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, MartinBangkok said:

I see the envy of EV-owners when I thunder past them on M3 on my way from Suvarnabhumi to Ban Chang (they can't try to outgun me cause then they would have to turn off their aircon on their way to Rayong to save power)

 

To rub it in, I select the fullest volume on the V6 Ranger Raptors adjustable sports exhaust when I fly by them.

 

The feeling is great.

 

🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol you couldn't keep up with even the base model Teslas.

[lordgrinz]

Do these EV's do well with short mileage trips daily, or are they depleting their batteries too quickly during the week? Also, how about when stuck in traffic with the AC cranking for long periods of time? Just trying to figure out of they make sense more for longer drives at speed, and not so much for short city commutes, or vice versa. 

[KhunLA]

53 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Got mine new in late 2021, its got I think about 12000km on it now.....like I said, wall-to-wall traffic is its normal home......LOL

 

At it's current rate, I should be driving this same vehicle after 10 years 😜

We rack up about 20k kms a year.  One good thing about living almost rural, no traffic jams.

 

BEVs are fairly consistent.  Actually in stop & go traffic, the 'regen' sends energy back to battery, so letting the car slow down, instead of braking, and you get more range.

 

On the highway at speed, 90 kph, there little if any difference in range, till going faster.   There really aren't the many stretches of road that allow 120 kph.   Cruise at that, 100+ and yea, you will sacrifice some range.  I guess if doing a lot of R/T to Pattaya, you'd probably notice, as one of the longer 120 kph stretches, BKK - Patts, but not really far enough that you'd need to charge anyway.

 

AC is minimal draw, and not worth even thinking about.

[JBChiangRai]

13 hours ago, MartinBangkok said:

I see the envy of EV-owners when I thunder past them on M3 on my way from Suvarnabhumi to Ban Chang (they can't try to outgun me cause then they would have to turn off their aircon on their way to Rayong to save power)

 

To rub it in, I select the fullest volume on the V6 Ranger Raptors adjustable sports exhaust when I fly by them.

 

The feeling is great.

 

🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

Try that with my Seal Performance, I will leave you for dust.