Trumpy-nomics -- "fixing" an economy that is already great. What could possibly go wrong?

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Reading this it seems some of us are going to enjoy these next 4 years of peace, prosperity and common sense alot more than others. 

Common sense?

That's rich.

More like blow up everything chaos.

[SunnyinBangrak]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Common sense?

That's rich.

More like blow up everything chaos.

We all know full well his last term ushered in an unprecedented period of world peace. Peace through strength an a little smatter of wild unpredictability due to Trump being driven by his love of America rather than Biden who as we know was money motivated(an awful weakness as it left him compromised to tragic consequence)

Abraham accords were miraculous, after Trumps predecessors set the region on fire. Lil Kim shut up and rolled over to have his belly tickled. It went so well, contrary to the lefts narrative until the whole gain of fauci fiasco. Hope they dont do that again, no matter how triggered by world peace they are....

[nauseus]

10 hours ago, Dan O said:

Kinda hard to argue against the progress already made in the last 4 years and it will continue as a normal function of economics for a number of months under Trump although he'll try to take credit for it if it continues and blame others if he screws it up. It'll be hard to improve but easy for him to F up. 

 

Under President Biden in 2024, the U.S. economy :

Economic Growth

• GDP Growth: The U.S. economy grew at an annual rate of 2.8% in the third quarter of 2024.

Employment

• Job Creation: The economy added 16 million jobs during Biden's term, marking the highest job creation in any single presidential term.

• Unemployment Rate: The unemployment rate has remained low, contributing to a strong labor market.

Inflation

• Inflation Rate: Inflation has moderated from its peak of 9% to 2.4%, although it remains a concern for many Americans.

Consumer Spending and Income

• Personal Income: Personal income increased by 0.6% in October 2024.

• Consumer Spending: Consumer spending also saw an increase, reflecting continued economic activity.

Corporate Profits

• Corporate Profits: Corporate profits have increased by 36% during Biden's presidency.

Trade and Investment

• Trade Deficit: The U.S. current-account deficit widened to $266.8 billion in the second quarter of 2024.

• Investment: There has been substantial investment in manufacturing and clean energy, contributing to economic growth.

Other Indicators

• Health Insurance: The number of uninsured people decreased by 6.6 million.

• Crime Rates: Violent crime has decreased, with a 9.1% drop in murders from 2020 to 2023.

It's already screwed up.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The cult is the Democrat & left, you vehemently denied Bidens cognitive  decline, despite the fact anyone with 2 working eyes could see it clear as day.

The not looking after the aged and infirm very well party.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Other than enabling a collection of egotistical wannabees in his own image Trump has already triggered chaos in anticipation.

Hopefully a collection of egotistical wannabees that kick Democrat and liberal butts into touch.

I don't know that Trump has "triggered chaos in anticipation", but he's certainly making a few Euro leaders stressed out, which is a good thing IMO.

 

He's not even POTUS yet and he's got the Mexican president making noises about preventing illegals crossing into the US, rather than helping them get there. All good.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, simple1 said:

Care to support your claim with credible link/s. In the meantime:

A link to what exactly? Did I say anything that wasn't an opinion?

 

Need to try harder.

[gamb00ler]

15 hours ago, Keep Right said:

Trump won by a huge mandate

News must be hard to come by on Mars.

[Dan O]

9 hours ago, G_Money said:

The economic disasters we’re under Biden’s watch.

 

Leftists doing what leftists do ALWAYS put the blame on someone else.

 

Pathetic.  
 

You fit my description to a T.

If you had any clue you would understand what was written.  The economic issue you claim are bidens started under Trump as a result of covid and continued on into bidens tenure. So to blame Biden for it is inaccurate but thats what trumpette do, twist the truth.

 

Did Trump create covid, no but it started in his watch and all the follow on was from the reaction dealing with it his agenda.

 

If you cant understand the time line you need to stop posting comments that you cant back up. The only pathetic one is you with your continual denial of what Trump has done in the past and your deflecting his actions to others. Go take your medication as you really need it. Don't reply to me on this as you have no credibility and it's a waste of energy even reading your bs let alone replying to your idiotic posts. 

[Dan O]

6 hours ago, nauseus said:

It's already screwed up.

And about to get much worse when his cabinet appointees are denied or quit before they even start. His choices for foreigners ambassadors are a laughing stock to foreigne government

[simple1]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A link to what exactly? Did I say anything that wasn't an opinion?

 

Need to try harder.

 

OK, not based upon facts. Next time make it clear your claim is just an opinion

[HappyExpat57]

Acting first lady Musk and his little sidekick Ramaswamy have already floated plans to inflict retirees with Austerity programs much like Greece did in 2008. It just gets better and better.

[Red Forever]

16 hours ago, frank83628 said:

You comment ost and credabitily after you mentioned Putin. Screetchy far left nonsense.

 

So companies investing the US and creading Jobs for US citizenis a bad thing?

Another high IQ, far right post.

Jeez!

[Dan O]

14 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

This is a reality.  It is a problem developed over decades by both parties and the bill is coming due.  It might be insurmountable and the US might ge headed into a forced change in how it taxes and spends.

 

But what really killed me about this headline was - already great economy?  Bwahahahaha.

 

It is for the rich in stock markets (thank you) but working people have far less financial security and spending power than they did 4 years ago and it isn't headed the right way.  Perhaps Trump's changes will energize the US economy.  Perhaps not.  But it is a flat out LIE that this is a great economy.

 

I have no degree in economics but I have less confidence in the DEM ideas than the GOP ideas regarding how an economy works.  I think we have over-regulated and frightened some major components of the economy into pulling back.  The fossil fuel industry for example.  We shall see.

 

One of the real confusions comes from the fact the many can't or don't know the difference between the stock market performance and the actual economy. Congress needs to be held accountable as they are they governing body responsible for all US spending. When they rubber stamp any and all bills giving away money like its water to any and every country it's no wonder the financial situation is where it is. Doesn't matter who's the president the deck is stacked against them try to navigate an intelligent path forward. Unfortunately, trump is not capable and with his intent on dismantling a variety of agencies or put a$$ kissers in to "run" them the writing is on the wall. 

[G_Money]

16 hours ago, Dan O said:

You don't factor in the impact of what Trump did in his last service and the carry on effect that lasts for months afterward. His handling of covid set the stage for the massive inflation many like to blame Biden for. Certainly he didn't create covid but his handling of it was horrible. He ignored warnings at the onset from China at the very beginning  and he is the one the started the funding for vaccine development under Warp Speed ignoring normal protocols and encouraged the Fed Reserve on monetary policy. Don't forget the debacle in most every agency where he appointed unqualified individuals to run them and his back channel disclosure of sensitive information to his ambassadors in Europe in unsecured communication.  So yeah you're cherry picking your data and not including significant issues or the recovery to job creation and reversal of unemployment among other issues. But you go with your narrative if that makes you feel better.  Here's a little perspective of who you worship 

You need to update your magazine cover.

 

Trump is now their Person of The Year!

 

Read and weep.

 

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Red Forever said:

Another high IQ, far right post.

Jeez!

 

2 hours ago, Dan O said:

If you had any clue you would understand what was written.  The economic issue you claim are bidens started under Trump as a result of covid and continued on into bidens tenure. So to blame Biden for it is inaccurate but thats what trumpette do, twist the truth.

 

Did Trump create covid, no but it started in his watch and all the follow on was from the reaction dealing with it his agenda.

 

If you cant understand the time line you need to stop posting comments that you cant back up. The only pathetic one is you with your continual denial of what Trump has done in the past and your deflecting his actions to others. Go take your medication as you really need it. Don't reply to me on this as you have no credibility and it's a waste of energy even reading your bs let alone replying to your idiotic posts. 

Can you elaborate on trump so called disasterous handling of COVID -the con job?

[G_Money]

16 hours ago, Dan O said:

You don't factor in the impact of what Trump did in his last service and the carry on effect that lasts for months afterward. His handling of covid set the stage for the massive inflation many like to blame Biden for. Certainly he didn't create covid but his handling of it was horrible. He ignored warnings at the onset from China at the very beginning  and he is the one the started the funding for vaccine development under Warp Speed ignoring normal protocols and encouraged the Fed Reserve on monetary policy. Don't forget the debacle in most every agency where he appointed unqualified individuals to run them and his back channel disclosure of sensitive information to his ambassadors in Europe in unsecured communication.  So yeah you're cherry picking your data and not including significant issues or the recovery to job creation and reversal of unemployment among other issues. But you go with your narrative if that makes you feel better.  Here's a little perspective of who you worship 

And now Time magazine Person of the Year.

 

How sweet it is.

 

 

[Dan O]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

Can you elaborate on trump so called disasterous handling of COVID -the con job?

Did I say disasterous anywhere in what I wrote? No I did not. I posted facts, you should try that some time. Its ok your head wont explode.

 

Read what I wrote in the context I wrote it in and stop being so thick.  The negative economic effects all you trumpers blame on Biden were actually from trump responses to covid. Covid was an unforeseen situation with no historical reference on how best to handle it. But stop deflecting his actions and the resulting impact on someone else, its asinine and shows your lack of comprehension

[G_Money]

6 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Did I say disasterous anywhere in what I wrote? No I did not. I posted facts, you should try that some time. Its ok your head wont explode.

 

Read what I wrote in the context I wrote it in and stop being so thick.  The negative economic effects all you trumpers blame on Biden were actually from trump responses to covid. Covid was an unforeseen situation with no historical reference on how best to handle it. But stop deflecting his actions and the resulting impact on someone else, its asinine and shows your lack of comprehension

So exactly who had the perfect answer to the China Virus at that time?   I repeat, at that time.  
 

A.  No one.

 

So why put the blame on Trump?

 

A.  It’s what a good leftist does.  

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

So exactly who had the perfect answer to the China Virus at that time?   I repeat, at that time.  
 

A.  No one.

 

So why put the blame on Trump?

 

A.  It’s what a good leftist does.  

You're to thick to understand anything except your own alt agenda.  Why do you trumpettes blame Biden then if its no one's fault ?   

 

Go back and read what I wrote unless you cant read English. I think I was clear it wasn't trumps fault for the covid virus. BUT It was on his watch that the economy made a dramatic downturn as a result of covid. But fools that worship Trump want to try to blame Biden and fault him for that economic impact.

 

It has nothing to do with left or right politics its just a fact. The truth hurts but its still the truth. 

[sqwakvfr]

2 hours ago, Dan O said:

One of the real confusions comes from the fact the many can't or don't know the difference between the stock market performance and the actual economy. Congress needs to be held accountable as they are they governing body responsible for all US spending. When they rubber stamp any and all bills giving away money like its water to any and every country it's no wonder the financial situation is where it is. Doesn't matter who's the president the deck is stacked against them try to navigate an intelligent path forward. Unfortunately, trump is not capable and with his intent on dismantling a variety of agencies or put a$$ kissers in to "run" them the writing is on the wall. 

Actual economy is different for all. Actual economy impacts how one votes.  Anyone remember the phrase "it's the economy stupid".  The actual economy sunk a second Bush Sr term.  The actual economy for the next 3.5 years will impact who is in the White House in 2029.  I wonder if this booming Biden economy would have made a difference if the Democrat candidate was not named Harris? 

[Peabody]

22 hours ago, Keep Right said:

Trump won by a huge mandate to repair what Biden destroyed.

Under 50% is hardly "a mandate".

 

[Dan O]

58 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Actual economy is different for all. Actual economy impacts how one votes.  Anyone remember the phrase "it's the economy stupid".  The actual economy sunk a second Bush Sr term.  The actual economy for the next 3.5 years will impact who is in the White House in 2029.  I wonder if this booming Biden economy would have made a difference if the Democrat candidate was not named Harris? 

 their is a distinct difference in the economy and the stock market which is what I posted. Many dont understand the difference between the 2. 

[metisdead]

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[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

OK, not based upon facts. Next time make it clear your claim is just an opinion

Given there was nothing that could seriously be called a fact I thought it was obvious that it was opinion.

 

BTW, considering your side constantly omits links that's a bit cheeky.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

News must be hard to come by on Mars.

Even on Mars they know that Trump won the EC and the popular vote.

 

😪

[transam]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Even on Mars they know that Trump won the EC and the popular vote.

 

😪

.............and is a criminal.......

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, Dan O said:

You're to thick to understand anything except your own alt agenda.  Why do you trumpettes blame Biden then if its no one's fault ?   

 

Go back and read what I wrote unless you cant read English. I think I was clear it wasn't trumps fault for the covid virus. BUT It was on his watch that the economy made a dramatic downturn as a result of covid. But fools that worship Trump want to try to blame Biden and fault him for that economic impact.

 

It has nothing to do with left or right politics its just a fact. The truth hurts but its still the truth. 

Hang this portrait in your room.

 

 

[G_Money]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here comes the pain. Trump sees his fans as suckers and marks.

He cares NOTHING about them.

Now as a lame duck he doesn't even need their votes anymore.

His real constituency is his own fat ass and the oligarchs.

 

In case you haven’t noticed, Biden is the do nothing lame duck.

 

Trump has accomplished more before taking office than Biden has accomplished in 50 years in DC.

 

One of the reasons for “Person of The Year”.

 

Break out your Kleenex.

 

 

[Hawaiian]

20 hours ago, Dan O said:

You don't factor in the impact of what Trump did in his last service and the carry on effect that lasts for months afterward. His handling of covid set the stage for the massive inflation many like to blame Biden for. Certainly he didn't create covid but his handling of it was horrible. He ignored warnings at the onset from China at the very beginning  and he is the one the started the funding for vaccine development under Warp Speed ignoring normal protocols and encouraged the Fed Reserve on monetary policy. Don't forget the debacle in most every agency where he appointed unqualified individuals to run them and his back channel disclosure of sensitive information to his ambassadors in Europe in unsecured communication.  So yeah you're cherry picking your data and not including significant issues or the recovery to job creation and reversal of unemployment among other issues. But you go with your narrative if that makes you feel better.  Here's a little perspective of who you worship 

Why was Operation Warp Speed a bad thing unless you believe making an effective COVID vaccine available ASAP was not a priority?

I recall that most of the world was in panic.  Or perhaps you believe time was NOT of the essence. Or maybe you believe vaccines do not work.  IMO, overriding existing protocol was the right thing to do.  This cut the normal development  time from years to months.  Or do you believe expediency was not important.

 

[Dan O]

10 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Why was Operation Warp Speed a bad thing unless you believe making an effective COVID vaccine available ASAP was not a priority?

I recall that most of the world was in panic.  Or perhaps you believe time was NOT of the essence. Or maybe you believe vaccines do not work.  IMO, overriding existing protocol was the right thing to do.  This cut the normal development  time from years to months.  Or do you believe expediency was not important.

 

I spoke about the economic impact and the fact that trumpettes continue to blame that  impact on Biden when it was a trump action, so go back and read what I wrote if you're confused.

 

The funding for those vaccine developments was from the US but the profits for selling them went to the companies not the US funded. 

 

As for expediting the process their are protocols for testing and validation that were completely bypassed. I worked directly in the industry for 25 years as Regulatory Compliance Agent to the FDA so have a bit of understanding of what went on.