Photo courtesy of Bangkok Post

 

By Puntid Tantivangphaisal

 

Srinagarind Hospital in Khon Kaen called on the National Health Security Office (NHSO) to address the overwhelming demand for cancer treatment, following a staggering 830% increase in patients seeking care under the Cancer Anywhere (CA) programme.

 

Hospital director Somsak Tiamkao yesterday, December 17, highlighted that the facility is struggling to cope with the significant rise in cancer patients referred through the NHSO’s CA programme. This surge has placed immense pressure on the hospital’s resources and staff.

 

Since the introduction of the programme, the number of cancer patients at Srinagarind Hospital soared by 830%.

 

In addition to being a medical treatment centre, the hospital also provides training for medical students. However, the influx of cancer patients has created significant challenges, particularly concerning staffing and the hospital’s capacity to both educate students and maintain healthcare services.

 

Somsak noted that the hospital is unable to increase its number of beds, doctors, nurses, or medical staff, which poses a risk to maintaining high medical standards.

 

 

Previously, a doctor could complete their morning patient diagnoses and then focus on teaching or research activities. Now, due to the increased workload, medical professionals are occupied well into the evening, reported Bangkok Post.

 

“We need to have a serious discussion with the NHSO. The programme must follow clear guidelines and procedures set by the NHSO. We are not refusing treatment, but we want cancer care to be standardised across all hospitals.”

 

The hospital director emphasised that all hospitals are equipped to deliver such care.

 

“The NHSO needs to discuss, listen, and help solve these issues instead of letting the situation escalate like a ‘broken dam.’”

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-12-18

 

 

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

Cancers and excess mortality is on the rise, steeply, in most countries that did what in 2021?!

 

There is an elephant in the room.

23 minutes ago, phetphet said:

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

All of those plus late diagnostics 

55 minutes ago, Carsten07 said:

Cancers and excess mortality is on the rise, steeply, in most countries that did what in 2021?!

 

There is an elephant in the room.

Turbo cancer is being called a conspiracy theory. Interesting. Covid being not zoonotic and a lab leak from gain of function research at the Wuhan lab was called and still is by some a conspiracy theory. It's now seeming there is a high likelihood that this was the case.  

is it really any wonder when the air is unfit to breathe for a good chunk of the year??

14 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

is it really any wonder when the air is unfit to breathe for a good chunk of the year??

 

But that's not new.  The question is, what's causing the huge increase?  Is it an increase in patients, better diagnostics, or are more of them gravitating toward that hospital?

 

It's happening everywhere, however in the developing world the factors of  excess pollution & lifestyle choices, stress of modern living, childhood nutrition & exercise lapses are greatly magnified with limited ability to redress unless your'e wealthy.

11 hours ago, phetphet said:

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

Yes all of the above, including dubious working conditions...

They don't say over what period of time it's gone up that much. That's basic information that would be nice to know.

12 hours ago, phetphet said:

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

Guess you forgot the stupid “health” minister Anutin promoting vaccines…

This is the same around the world with “ turbo” cancers, and doctors have never seen anything like it! Meanwhile stupid Biden pardons Phizer ect from prosecution until 2029 ,.. the death ratio for kids was 30:1 due to the supposedly  safe vaccines, 30 died to save 1 ! 

I don’t know why and am not going to hypothesize why. The other hospitals should have to help these people. One hospital can’t handle it, as they state, so others must open their treatment centers for cancer. They just don’t want to take on the financial burden. Sad no matter what the circumstances are. 

8 minutes ago, jcmj said:

The other hospitals should have to help these people. One hospital can’t handle it, as they state,

That's what I read.

It's not a steep increase of cancer cases but some "program" allowing people to freely choose the hospital.

And as Srinagarid is the top place up here it's no wonder they flock there.

 

As I understood they normally have to to visit their "assigned"/"registered" hospital first and only if needed they will be transferred to a higher up hospital.

All that does not apply to the wealthy class that will visit private hospitals.

12 hours ago, impulse said:

 

But that's not new.  The question is, what's causing the huge increase?  Is it an increase in patients, better diagnostics, or are more of them gravitating toward that hospital?

 

 

The government instituting the NHSO Cancer Anywhere program, it's in the article. 

14 hours ago, phetphet said:

... I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

 

13 hours ago, Carsten07 said:

Cancers and excess mortality is on the rise, steeply, in most countries that did what in 2021?!

There is an elephant in the room.

 

... and as usual on this Forum only 1 poster dared hinting to the elephant's name. 

Let's not beat around the bush, it's Jabby, also known as the '100% safe and effective' Protector of your Health...

perhaps the huge increase is calculated incorrectly. In South Australia the increase is 0.1% in males and -0.75% in females. maybe 830% is a tad unbelievable?

look up  TURBO cancer and maybe your eyes might open

 

 

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

The government instituting the NHSO Cancer Anywhere program, it's in the article. 

 

It's pretty ambiguous.  It's almost there, but the article doesn't draw a very clear line. Like "Now that cancer patients can choose any hospital, they're all flocking to Srinagarind." 

 

 

The issue of cancer in the Northeast of Thailand is often related to the consumption of a raw fish dish called 'Koi Pla'.  Over time, consuming this food can lead to 'liver fluke' which often then becomes liver cancer if not treated.

 

Khon Kaen University has a very strong program of doctorate students taking this cancer as their topic. The problem is that despite a wide-ranging effort to inform the Isaan people of the dangers of eating this raw fish dish, they continue to prepare and consume it.

 

The reason Sri Nakarind  hospital is so inundated with patients is that it is the foremost hospital in Thailand for dealing with this particular type of cancer.

 

The link below, though from 2015, gives some information about the problem of 'raw fish' being consumed by the rural Isaan people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-33095945

20 hours ago, phetphet said:

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

Cancer of the liver is high on the list. My wife's brother-in-law was a lifelong non-smoker and teetotal yet died from this form. Another family member is a life-long smoker and an alcoholic, has been hospitalised three times with multiple broken bones from high-speed car crashes and, a month ago, was expected to die. According to his medical report he has no underlying medical conditions other than one leg a little shorter than the other. He's driving around today like a lunatic! 🙄

 

21 hours ago, NativeBob said:

All of those plus late diagnostics

Certainly a lack of preventative medicine. Breast cancer screening is apparently shortly to be offered by Thai National Health Service. However, it will be limited to women aged between 40 and 59 who also have immediate family history. My Thai wife wouldn't qualify. She has two friends with breast cancer. This prompted her to book a special promotional screening at Bangkok Hospital. They found invasive ductal carcinoma cancer stage between two and three. She's now had surgery, two sessions of chemo and CT scans of chest and abdomen. Tomorrow we're off for a bone scan to..........Srinagarind.  

I believe that Srinagarind Hospital is private :  are they so many rich people in Khon Kaen with the financial resources to pay for cancer treatment ?

10 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

... and as usual on this Forum only 1 poster dared hinting to the elephant's name. 

Let's not beat around the bush, it's Jabby, also known as the '100% safe and effective' Protector of your Health...

And it’s not like all the other things people seem to mention weren’t issues for many many years until now.   Something must have changed 🤔 

 

If living in denial makes people more comfortable….so be it.

Covid shots? 

On 12/18/2024 at 5:47 PM, phetphet said:

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

 

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

And it’s not like all the other things people seem to mention weren’t issues for many many years until now.   Something must have changed 🤔 

 

If living in denial makes people more comfortable….so be it.

 

OK.

Don't be in denial.

Read the above paragraph.

 

Also, the diagnostic equipment needed is NOT here:

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/18/2024 at 5:47 PM, phetphet said:

The cancer cases must already have been there. The program has just brought them to the fore.

 

I wonder what the main causes are here in Thailand. Smoking? Excessive use of chemicals in farming? Pollution? Additives in food? Deep frying everything?

 

Pollution must be a big factor.  No one seems to care about it (they'd much rather worry about vaping) but it's enough to give you a cough, so it must be doing some serious damage.

54 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

OK.

Don't be in denial.

Read the above paragraph.

 

Also, the diagnostic equipment needed is NOT here:

 

 

 

 

 

Ok….explain the 800%+ rise now.   Has there been an 800% increase in PET scan machines? 
 

I didn’t think so.
 

Your quoted figures show a rise of less than 200% from 1997 until 2017.  

 

Don’t forget to get your recommended Covid booster. 😘 

On 12/18/2024 at 6:06 PM, Carsten07 said:

Cancers and excess mortality is on the rise, steeply, in most countries that did what in 2021?!

 

There is an elephant in the room.

put your tin foil head on

23 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Ok….explain the 800%+ rise now.   Has there been an 800% increase in PET scan machines? 
 

I didn’t think so.
 

Your quoted figures show a rise of less than 200% from 1997 until 2017.  

 

Don’t forget to get your recommended Covid booster. 😘 

The numbers raised in a period of three years since the program was started and not within some days. Before people were restricted to the Hospital where they are registered, under the program started in 2021 they can use any Hospital. And off course they flog to the most specialized ones.