54 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

Insurance companies will believe in anything that can make them an extra dollar or justify rejecting a claim.

Insurance companies don't make any money out of declining to insure a property. They refuse to offer insurance, because the risk is deemed to be unacceptable.

On 12/21/2024 at 8:16 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Plain and Simple > There Is No Climate Emergency!

The whole green-washing thing is a gigantic hoax, and billions are being made on manipulation of those that go along with that narrative.

 

And you figured all this out in 2024? Well, better late than never they say, and I guess it did take some balls to post that. 

26 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

And you figured all this out in 2024? Well, better late than never they say, and I guess it did take some balls to post that. 

Nope, me and every sane person did figure out already years ago that the climate change narrative is a hoax of enormous proportions.  But the disturbing thing is that the absurd and totally false premises on which the whole grift is based, are getting ever more traction as there are enormous fortunes to be made on the so-called required and necessary 'transition'. 

And so there is a dire need to provide actual facts and data instead of the abject absurdities like demonizing CO2 which is the 'gas of life' without which life on this planet would not be able to survive. 

Dr Patrick Moore, in his eye-opening 2015 address at the Annual GWPF meeting already made it crystal clear that we should actually celebrate CO2.  Listening to his 40 minute lecture should be mandatory for everybody interested in 'climate change'.

Here the link to dr Moore's video-presentation which is as relevant or even more today than when he delivered it >

 

 

On 12/21/2024 at 8:16 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Plain and Simple > There Is No Climate Emergency!

The whole green-washing thing is a gigantic hoax, and billions are being made on manipulation of those that go along with that narrative. 

But don't take it from me, but listen to Nobel Prize winner Dr. John F. CLAUSER

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John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on quantum mechanics, has decided to sign the World Climate Declaration of Clintel with its central message “there is no climate emergency”. Clauser is the second Nobel Laureate to sign the  declaration, Dr. Ivar Giaever was the first. The number of scientists and experts signing the World Climate Declaration is growing rapidly and now approaching 1600 people.

Clauser has publicly distanced himself from climate alarmism and this year he also joined the Board of Directors of the CO­₂ Coalition. In the announcement by the CO₂ Coalition, Clauser was quoted in the following way:

“The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people. Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis. There is, however, a very real problem with providing a decent standard of living to the world’s large population and an associated energy crisis. The latter is being unnecessarily exacerbated by what, in my opinion, is incorrect climate science.”

In July Clauser gave a talk at the event Quantum Korea 2023. He warned the audience about the growing amount of pseudoscience and misinformation.

“Now I am not alone in observing the dangerous proliferation of pseudoscience. Recently, The Nobel Foundation has formed a new panel to address the issue called the International Panel on Information Environment. They plan to model it after the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change, the IPCC.
I think personally that they are making a big mistake in that effort because in my opinion the IPCC is one of the worst sources of dangerous misinformation. What I’m about to recommend is in furtherance of that, of the aims of that panel. […]

I have a second elephant in the room that I have recently discovered regarding climate change. I believe that climate change is not a crisis. […]

Beware. If you’re doing good science, it may lead you into politically incorrect areas. If you’re a good scientist, you will follow them. I have several I won’t have time to discuss, but I can confidently say there is no real climate crisis and that climate change does not cause extreme weather events.”

Source: https://clintel.org/nobel-prize-winner-dr-john-f-clauser-signs-the-clintel-world-climate-declaration/

Very interesting. Is Clauser a climatologist? Is his career based on studying the climate? Could a dentist make the same claims? 

NASA and others claim that 97% of climatologists say climate change is true. 

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/

This implies that Clauser, who is not a Nobel Prize winner in climatology is in the 3%, doesn't it?

That is fine as scientists are allowed to disagree. I am sure that if a biologist told a physicist that space is made of blancmange physicists would have to consider it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01928-2

 

Aseannow is becoming a haven for conspiracy theorists (with no theory) and deniers.

 

Yes, it is sad that the 'climate emergency' keeps getting exaggerated by the media to get more clicks. BUT look at the facts.

 

1. CO2 levels have been steadily rising, higher than any level in the last 800,000 years. Man now accounts for about 5% of all planetary CO2 emissions, and the carbon cycle cannot deal with that extra amount.

2. Average global temperatures have been rising steadily for the last 140 years (when good records began) and is now increasing at more than 0.1 degrees Centigrade a decade and the rate is increasing.

3. Average Sea levels are rising (currently at 3mm per year)

 

Those are 3 measurable FACTS. (there are others).

 

The world is already seeing more extreme weather events, and other events, such as coral bleaching,  more frequent larger forest fires, melting permafrost and glaciers. There are certain events which once they start are very difficult to stop and reverse. These include changes to AMOC (the Gulf stream), the dying of the Amazon forest (part due to climate change, part due to deforestation) and the loss of habitat for many important species of Animals and plants.

 

I wish they would stop saying '10 years to save the world' or whatever, but there will almost certainly be some dramatic changes during this century if we keep our CO2 and other emissions up.  Can we stop it? Not with you lot of pathetic non-believers.

 

 

I have no idea what is the main driver to climate change.  Pretty sure 7 billion humans is a part of it.  A big part?  I am skeptical.  But open to REAL science not grant research driven models. 

 

It would be great if we reduced emissions but IMO the cost to human progress could be worse.  It needs to balance human advances with potential damage to the ecology.  Personally I am more concerned with what we are doing to the oceans than the air but again I am no scientist.

When I noticed that a new sub-forum "off the beaten track" came into being here, I knew what's coming.

A platform for "deniers", refusing to accept scientific facts.

Possibly the OP has spent 2 hours to find that climate change is a hoax in the internet, would he have spent the same 2 hours in the internet, looking at undisputable scientific evidence, he could have found a thousand scientific studies, that prove that muman made global warming is not a Hoax.

What's next here? The earth is flat? All vaccinations that have saved millions of lives are "devils work"? Just because the authors of such things have never bothered to make the attempt to understand DNA/RNA or other indisputable scientific facts?

 As I see it, every moron on this globe has now found an open door here.

Next: Donald makes the sun rise in the east and set in the west. Followed by 10 pages of "approving comments" here. Heaven help us.

The last “wokie” to lecture me on climate change drives a Dodge Ram 1500 with a 5.7 liter hemi…..and with a lead foot.   He has never even removed the bed cover as it’s not a “work truck”….and he wants to supercharge it.  
 

He drives it 1/2 mile to go to shopping.

 

Why do the climate change celebrities have such large homes?

 

Here’s a nice article on Leo DiCaprio’s real estate collection.

 

https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/real-estate/a46869521/leonardo-dicaprio-homes-real-estate/#

And why do they all fly in private jets to the climate conferences?

 

FOUR HUNDRED private jets arrived in Egypt during COP27 as climate delegates are accused of 'hypocrisy'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11416209/FOUR-private-jets-arrived-Egypt-COP27-climate-delegates-accused-hypocrisy.html

 

What’s up with that?  Do they not feel safe flying business class in a Boeing?

 

I guess not.

 

 

On 12/20/2024 at 7:16 PM, Red Phoenix said:

The whole green-washing thing is a gigantic hoax, and billions are being made on manipulation of those that go along with that narrative.

Ultimately, as someone pointed out to me long ago, the Big Boys want to control your feeding, breeding and movement.

 

Electrick cars can be switched off remotely and instantly.

 

Your phone and access to money (or perhaps so called social credits) can be switched off remotely and instantly.

 

You can be denied travel privileges based on carbon consumption (i.e. being alive!).  The UK is doing a test run of that madness. Someone posted a link here a while back.

 

When the Big Boys talk about carbon neutrality they're really taking about carbon neutralising - all of US being the carbon to be neutralised of course.

 

Don't let it happen folks.

 

Support clean, responsible fossil fuel production and clean burning ICEs.

18 hours ago, Airalee said:

FOUR HUNDRED private jets arrived in Egypt during COP27 as climate delegates are accused of 'hypocrisy'

That is one thing i totally agree with. BUT i wonder how many of those belonged to corporate attendees going there to try and influence the outcome. This analysis is worth a read

 

https://theconversation.com/cop27-will-be-remembered-as-a-failure-heres-what-went-wrong-194982#:~:text=Geopolitics&text=The invasion meant that oil,act boldly on fossil fuels.

23 minutes ago, rickudon said:

That is one thing i totally agree with. BUT i wonder how many of those belonged to corporate attendees going there to try and influence the outcome. This analysis is worth a read

 

https://theconversation.com/cop27-will-be-remembered-as-a-failure-heres-what-went-wrong-194982#:~:text=Geopolitics&text=The invasion meant that oil,act boldly on fossil fuels.

Sure.  I wouldn’t doubt that oil and gas executives fly private jets.

 

Now let’s do super yachts and who owns/charters them the most?  
 

Leftist climate emergency preaching tech executives and celebrities vs Oil and Gas executives.

 

Go!

 

After that we can compare supercar collections and real estate portfolios.
 

😁

How much food can you grow under ice age condition? AFAIK you can keep frozen food for longer, however your veggies will not grow very good on a glacier. And whats not covered with ice all year around will just to a small part be usable for growing food.

 

Now in hot climate, food is growing much easier and faster. Therefore, global warming is much better for us then when you would enter the next ice age. Then I would be afraid about what happen. I guess we would have very big problems to feed world population.

 

 

On 12/21/2024 at 4:48 PM, Will B Good said:

 

 

Rather disingenuous......I suspect this refers to tipping points.

 

You seem to imply that the tweet was saying humanity will be wiped out in five years.....or maybe that's not what you intended???

 

 

Are you saying that we are at the tipping point?

 

We certainly seem to be at the tipping point of humanity going woke ( or at least western society ) which will inexorably lead to the end of western civilization, IMO. Those that do not believe in more than 2 genders or that driving a car will lead to the Antarctic ice cap melting will inherit all that we built.

On 12/23/2024 at 6:11 AM, swissie said:

Possibly the OP has spent 2 hours to find that climate change is a hoax in the internet, would he have spent the same 2 hours in the internet, looking at undisputable scientific evidence, he could have found a thousand scientific studies, that prove that muman made global warming is not a Hoax.

LOL. There is no such thing as indisputable scientific evidence, and science is not fixed, and that's before realising that science as it is now doesn't know much at all. Just because sensible studies are "discouraged", does not mean that stupid studies are true.

 

BTW, I very much doubt that you read every one of those thousand scientific studies, and there are probably thousands proving there is no MMCC which you didn't read.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

tipping point of humanity going woke

 

And there we have it......the answer in a nutshell.

19 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

And there we have it......the answer in a nutshell.

Happy to help.

On 12/22/2024 at 12:14 PM, Airalee said:

The last “wokie” to lecture me on climate change drives a Dodge Ram 1500 with a 5.7 liter hemi…..and with a lead foot.   He has never even removed the bed cover as it’s not a “work truck”….and he wants to supercharge it.  
 

He drives it 1/2 mile to go to shopping.

 

Why do the climate change celebrities have such large homes?

 

Here’s a nice article on Leo DiCaprio’s real estate collection.

 

https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/real-estate/a46869521/leonardo-dicaprio-homes-real-estate/#

And why do they all fly in private jets to the climate conferences?

 

FOUR HUNDRED private jets arrived in Egypt during COP27 as climate delegates are accused of 'hypocrisy'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11416209/FOUR-private-jets-arrived-Egypt-COP27-climate-delegates-accused-hypocrisy.html

 

What’s up with that?  Do they not feel safe flying business class in a Boeing?

 

I guess not.

 

 

 

Driving with a bed cover has been shown to consume more petrol than driving without it. 

 

Save the world and sheet.

On 12/23/2024 at 6:14 AM, Airalee said:

The last “wokie” to lecture me on climate change drives a Dodge Ram 1500 with a 5.7 liter hemi…..and with a lead foot.   He has never even removed the bed cover as it’s not a “work truck”….and he wants to supercharge it.  
 

He drives it 1/2 mile to go to shopping.

 

Why do the climate change celebrities have such large homes?

 

Here’s a nice article on Leo DiCaprio’s real estate collection.

 

https://www.housebeautiful.com/design-inspiration/real-estate/a46869521/leonardo-dicaprio-homes-real-estate/#

And why do they all fly in private jets to the climate conferences?

 

FOUR HUNDRED private jets arrived in Egypt during COP27 as climate delegates are accused of 'hypocrisy'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11416209/FOUR-private-jets-arrived-Egypt-COP27-climate-delegates-accused-hypocrisy.html

 

What’s up with that?  Do they not feel safe flying business class in a Boeing?

 

I guess not.

 

 

Dig into any woke politician or celebrity life and probably find a hypocrite lurking there. Al Gore probably the biggest one of all.