Who lives on 20k a month ?

[nowhereman]

  On 12/21/2024 at 12:04 AM, bkk6060 said:

I sure could not my golf budget is twice that.  That is 700 b a day lots of poor British do it with their lousy frozen pensions, so I guess it is possible. 

Come and give it a try for a month.  If you get hungry, they throw a lot of food waste here I am sure the garbage cans at the malls are a gold mine.

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I's well known amongst peasantry that most golfers like playing with holes. On the serious note, answer to the OP, you can live on 20.000 THB monthly as you described but keep in mind that you have to have some kind of visa and most importantly HEALTH Insurance that would add to the cost of living. 

[easydoor]

With 20.000THB/m you can only survive. Living with this amount???? It's dependent on what you call LIVING.....

You shall have to be a very good CHEAP CHARLIE.

[KhunLA]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:31 AM, easydoor said:

With 20.000THB/m you can only survive. Living with this amount???? It's dependent on what you call LIVING.....

You shall have to be a very good CHEAP CHARLIE.

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We actually do quite well on 20k a month, but we are all bought in, w/solar also, and that saves about 5k a month.

 

Without being bought in, owning everything, then 10k for rent & utilities, that allows about 300 a day for food, so eating good shouldn't be  problem.

 

BUT ... that's about it.  A decent survival.  Anyone thinking about that life, stay home and enjoy your safety net, when you have an oops.

 

But OP is rich, so he shouldn't have any problem.

[Olmate]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:07 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have never heard of this ,and i have been out of Australia for months at a time 

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Its done on.return via a.dr visit and/or c/link visit.No drama.

[Olmate]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:36 AM, KhunLA said:

We actually do quite well on 20k a month, but we are all bought in, w/solar also, and that saves about 5k a month.

 

Without being bought in, owning everything, then 10k for rent & utilities, that allows about 300 a day for food, so eating good shouldn't be  problem.

 

BUT ... that's about it.  A decent survival.  Anyone thinking about that life, stay home and enjoy your safety net, when you have an oops.

 

But OP is rich, so he shouldn't have any problem.

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Not doable on 20kmonth, 40k barely gets u by! 

[G_Money]

  On 12/21/2024 at 12:12 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Ok so I have been envisioning my lifestyle and please I added this word "envisioning" after I saw it written on here so don't qoute me as I don't know the meaning !

 

But I have been thinking that I buy a Flybird Condo  ( Pattaya) and have it beautiful with nice neon colours and clean 

 

Then I own it ....I have 20,000 baht a month now to live on?

 

Can I do it ?

Food shopping ? Where can I shop ? Markets I guess 

Electric should be 1500

 

The problem is....even though I live in Australia I am still not acclimatise to the heat so need Air conditioning although most Flybird have a balcony with a breeze 

I may have to buy several fans 

 

Food bill may be high,I need to eat protein 

Gym I will have to use Tony's ( Pattaya) as it's walking distance 800b a month 

Please tell me how working class this  do it ?

 

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Stay home and keep your janitorial job is my advice to you.

[Olmate]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:36 AM, KhunLA said:

We actually do quite well on 20k a month, but we are all bought in, w/solar also, and that saves about 5k a month.

 

Without being bought in, owning everything, then 10k for rent & utilities, that allows about 300 a day for food, so eating good shouldn't be  problem.

 

BUT ... that's about it.  A decent survival.  Anyone thinking about that life, stay home and enjoy your safety net, when you have an oops.

 

But OP is rich, so he shouldn't have any problem.

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He is but its stashed under his mops and magic carpet! 

[khunPer]

  On 12/20/2024 at 11:54 PM, georgegeorgia said:

I'm getting straight to the point.

 

And even though I didn't write this in the Pattaya section this relates to Pattaya...but I want to hear from you guys in Isaan too and even in the Philippines 

Can you live on 20,000 baht per month if you own your own home /condo 

I am very very poor and will need to live on this 

I don't drink alcohol or smoke and will buy a small room in the Flybird Condo in Pattaya 

 

Please break down your budget for me and how do working class Thai people do it ?

Do they use Bolt or Grab?

Do they go to Starbucks?

 

So NO rent ,eg you own your own condo in the Flybird or Nirun 

 

Can you live on 20k, I have worked out I will only have 20,000 baht a month to live on 

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Apart from your financial needs for a permission to stay – i.e. visa and extensions of stay – yes, you can live a modest life in Thailand if your own your home and has a simple life-style, which still can be a good life due to weather conditions etc.

 

If you can cook yourself and don't eat huge amounts of food, you can live for 200 baht a day. Even eating out is possible for a few hundred baht a day , if you choose local food from street kitchens, markets or modest restaurants.

 

Me, I only eat one major meal a day and make an excellent mainly Western-style supper for in average 200 baht per day including a glass of wine or two, and some fruit or a bisquit during the day...😋 I could easily afford (much) more, but I don't need to, I'm happy with my life-style and rather spend my extra money on something else.

 

If you find the right area, where you don't need aircon – or much aircon – and avoid real cold periods, your electric bill can be less than 1,000 baht per month, less if you don't cook meals yourself usin electric power.

 

Your major concern – if you own a home and have modest expenses for that – is health. Healt insurance can be quite expensive depending of age and level of coverage. If your health is good – I would say: That is a must for a 20k baht budget – and you can settle with public hospital service, you might find a health insurance in the level around 3,000 baht to 4,000 baht per month.

 

So, to break down some kind of monthly budget:

6,000 baht for 200 baht per day food

1,000 baht for electricity

1,000 baht for communication (Internet/mobile)

4,000 baht for health (either insurance or savings for self-insured)

 

That leaves you with 8,000 baht for home fees/maintenance and other stuff you need or now and then dining out in a little more expensive place, to enjoy a happy life...

[SAFETY FIRST]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:05 AM, newbee2022 said:

What a humiliating post! Again!! 

You can't do better???🥴

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It's obvious we are 2 people at opposite ends of the spectrum. 

 

You having never grown up, only commenting with hostility and antagonizism. 

 

Try scrolling past comments instead of nasty replies. 

 

When you was young, I bet you was the kid that got a beating everyday in the school playground, judging by your replies. 

 

[G_Money]

  On 12/21/2024 at 2:58 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Why would you need a 45k sofa?

Even in my apartment in Australia I bought a secondhand one off Facebook equivalent of 3000 baht and free delivery 

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Because some people have taste.

 

Not everyone wants to live like you.

[dayo202]

No rent to pay out, easily survive on 20k

[quake]

20,000.

Not much of a life man.

40-50 is ok.

It don't make much deference where you live, if your accommodation is already sorted.

it's what you do that takes the money.

You will need a small motor bike,  and don't listen to the fairies on here about bikes.

[G_Money]

All I can say is from reading many of these posts is I count my blessings that I don’t have to live in Thailand the way many have to.

 

[NativeBob]

I worked with money obsessed ethnic chinese in BKK, and for years I'd learn ho to live on 15K in rented condo. Easy-peasy!

PS: not because I didn't have more money to spend, but because that cult of saving anything you can. 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 12/20/2024 at 11:54 PM, georgegeorgia said:

and will buy a small room in the Flybird Condo in Pattaya 

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   Why would you want to live in Pattaya if you aren't going to get involved with nightlife there ?

   As you won't be drinking  ,whoring or eating Western food , you may as well go and live in a cheaper Thai town 

[Ralf001]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:47 AM, Olmate said:

Not doable on 20kmonth, 40k barely gets u by! 

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I pull 30k a month out of the Atm machine, rarely do I spend it.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 12/21/2024 at 12:56 AM, georgegeorgia said:

 

How do you poor guys like me live without Air conditioning 

I remember I was in patts last April /May and it was a bloody heatwave 

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   Get a condo that is in the shade with no sun facing walls or ceiling , then you won.t need aircon

[KannikaP]

  On 12/21/2024 at 12:53 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I prefer to be more or less in the city ,I don't like rural type areas especially if there is kangaroos etc around 

I am a city boy 

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There are not many kangaroos in Chiang Mai !

[KannikaP]

  On 12/21/2024 at 7:57 AM, khunPer said:

That is a must for a 20k baht budget – and you can settle with public hospital service, you might find a health insurance in the level around 3,000 baht to 4,000 baht per month.

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Do local Government Hospitals have insurance policy deals? I asked at mine and was told NO !

[herfiehandbag]

  On 12/21/2024 at 5:52 AM, PJ71 said:

They pitch in, ie many people in one loom, that's how they survive.

 

Unlikely old retired farangs will do the same.

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1) He is talking about 20K a month, that is twice that.

 

2) he is talking about living frugally - although I don't really see the point of being in Pattaya if you have to live frugally. Elsewhere in Thailand 20K is entirely "doable"

[still kicking]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:21 AM, KannikaP said:

There are not many kangaroos in Chiang Mai !

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He is just plain dumb 

[Nemo.]

That's 580 USD but could get worse or better.

 

Yes but what about medical? That's the usual next biggest (must) cost.

 

And travel? Holidays?

 

If just for food, local buses and bills doable 

[KannikaP]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:33 AM, Nemo. said:

That's 580 USD but could get worse or better.

 

Yes but what about medical? That's the usual next biggest (must) cost.

 

And travel? Holidays?

 

If just for food, local buses and bills doable 

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When you get to the age of some of us, health insurance is impossible. Keep a stash on one side for that.

Or have a few high limit Credit Cards available.

Or DNR tattooed on your forehead! 555

[still kicking]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:36 AM, KannikaP said:

When you get to the age of some of us, health insurance is impossible. Keep a stash on one side for that.

Or have a few high limit Credit Cards available.

Or DNR tattooed on your forehead! 555

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That is one of the reason I returned home being a pensioner it's all free for me 

[KannikaP]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:42 AM, still kicking said:

That is one of the reason I returned home being a pensioner it's all free for me 

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It is all free for everyone in the UK. That's why waiting lists are so long.

[nowhereman]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:47 AM, KannikaP said:

It is all free for everyone in the UK. That's why waiting lists are so long.

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In Thailand there is no such thing a waiting list, If you have money or reliable insurance. No nanny state here. 

[KannikaP]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:50 AM, nowhereman said:

In Thailand there is no such thing a waiting list, if you don't have money or reliable insurance. No nanny state here. 

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Don't talk silly. There are LONG waiting times here in my University Hospital, but I eventually get what need sorted out for a very reasonable price, both treatment and meds.

[khunJam]

  On 12/20/2024 at 11:54 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Can you live on 20k, I have worked out I will only have 20,000 baht a month to live on 

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Yes. My house is 150sq meters. I run 5 aircons. We eat out every meal. We go on vacations monthly. Drive a gas guzzler. Easy peazy.

[still kicking]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:47 AM, KannikaP said:

It is all free for everyone in the UK. That's why waiting lists are so long.

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I never waited in OZ I ring my doctor today and can make an appointment for tomorrow went with heard problems to the hospital went there next day 

[nowhereman]

  On 12/21/2024 at 9:54 AM, KannikaP said:

Don't talk silly. There are LONG waiting times here in my University Hospital, but I eventually get what need sorted out for a very reasonable price, both treatment and meds.

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Sorry, please check my original reply again as it is corrected and changed due to a grammatical error.